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One: Sora's keyblade will temporarily turn into a Persona, and will then be available as a summon later in the game.
One: Sora's keyblade will temporarily turn into a Persona, and will then be available as a summon later in the game.
Two: The inverse of Option One: With Sora around, the Persona user's Personas will be transmogrified into Keyblades and the Shadows will be replaced by heartless.
Two: The inverse of Option One: With Sora around, the Persona user's Personas will be transmogrified into Keyblades and the Shadows will be replaced by heartless.
Three: [[KH 3]] will have a social link system
Three: KH3 will have a social link system
Four: Sora will mistake the Persona 3 MC for Zexion, and hilarity ensues
Four: Sora will mistake the Persona 3 MC for Zexion, and hilarity ensues
Five: Sora will get mixed up with Yosuke in a Prince and the Pauper-esque plotline
Five: Sora will get mixed up with Yosuke in a Prince and the Pauper-esque plotline
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Just before revolting against the Patriots, Liquid killed the real Simba and made his body into a costume in order to gain control of the Pride Lands and use trained lions to defend Shadow Moses Island. Until Sora and Co. arrived, he was in a deadlock over how to overthrow Scar and take the throne, which is why he moped around with Timon and Pumbaa for as long as he did; having done enough research to understand who the Keybearer was and why he was so important, he knew that Sora and the Keyblade gave him the opportunity he needed, and used him to defeat Scar. His reluctance to act against Scar's ghost was for similar reasons. The lion army didn't pan out in the end, but impersonating Simba gave Liquid the idea to do the same for Master Miller.
Just before revolting against the Patriots, Liquid killed the real Simba and made his body into a costume in order to gain control of the Pride Lands and use trained lions to defend Shadow Moses Island. Until Sora and Co. arrived, he was in a deadlock over how to overthrow Scar and take the throne, which is why he moped around with Timon and Pumbaa for as long as he did; having done enough research to understand who the Keybearer was and why he was so important, he knew that Sora and the Keyblade gave him the opportunity he needed, and used him to defeat Scar. His reluctance to act against Scar's ghost was for similar reasons. The lion army didn't pan out in the end, but impersonating Simba gave Liquid the idea to do the same for Master Miller.


== Mortimer Mouse and Oswald the Lucky Rabbit will appear in [[KH 3]] as minor characters. ==
== Mortimer Mouse and Oswald the Lucky Rabbit will appear in KH3 as minor characters. ==
The two of them will probably become followers of Maleficent, alongside Pete, another one of King Mickey's old rivals/adversaries, in an attempt to get back at the Boat-Boy King for banishing them as well.
The two of them will probably become followers of Maleficent, alongside Pete, another one of King Mickey's old rivals/adversaries, in an attempt to get back at the Boat-Boy King for banishing them as well.
* So, we're putting a bit of Epic Mickey into the mix?
* So, we're putting a bit of Epic Mickey into the mix?
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* During KH:CoM, Sora falls into a coma. This causes the distortion of "the worlds", making Organization XIII exist. Assumably, Organization XIII is based off of real-life people that we do not ever hear about (with the exceptions of Xemnas=Riku, Roxas=Sora, and Namine=Kairi.) As he falls deeper into his coma, he forgets more and more, thus creating the memory-forgetting magic of Castle Oblivion. Sora is deepest in his coma when Namine puts him to "sleep."
* During KH:CoM, Sora falls into a coma. This causes the distortion of "the worlds", making Organization XIII exist. Assumably, Organization XIII is based off of real-life people that we do not ever hear about (with the exceptions of Xemnas=Riku, Roxas=Sora, and Namine=Kairi.) As he falls deeper into his coma, he forgets more and more, thus creating the memory-forgetting magic of Castle Oblivion. Sora is deepest in his coma when Namine puts him to "sleep."
* Riku somehow assists in getting Sora out of his coma in the real world. His mind, acknologing this, makes Riku into an "anti-hero" at the very end. More Disney characters are used, and Organization XIII returns to put continuity into Sora's life. At the end of the game, what happens in real life is that Sora is presumed dead and Riku is swimming his body out to sea when Sora decides he wants to wake up. Donald, Goofy, and Mickey are after-effects of the drugs and coma.
* Riku somehow assists in getting Sora out of his coma in the real world. His mind, acknologing this, makes Riku into an "anti-hero" at the very end. More Disney characters are used, and Organization XIII returns to put continuity into Sora's life. At the end of the game, what happens in real life is that Sora is presumed dead and Riku is swimming his body out to sea when Sora decides he wants to wake up. Donald, Goofy, and Mickey are after-effects of the drugs and coma.
* To answer Sora's somewhat prophetic question from the beginning of his dream sequence in [[KH 1]], no, none of this ''is'' for real.
* To answer Sora's somewhat prophetic question from the beginning of his dream sequence in KH1, no, none of this ''is'' for real.


== Mystery Mold is an extremely powerful drug. ==
== Mystery Mold is an extremely powerful drug. ==
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== Kingdom Hearts and all its sequels are really just stories ==
== Kingdom Hearts and all its sequels are really just stories ==
So, Sora had this weird dream one night, the opening of [[KH 1]]. Then he decides to write it down when he wakes up. He shows it to Riku and Kairi, and together they make a long story including all their favorite movie characters and other friends on the Islands. Then after a while, other denizens of the island are shown the story, and all the non-Disney characters in KH join together to make [[KH 2]]. Meanwhile, while Sora is busy writing [[KH 2]], Riku writes CoM with the help of Namine.
So, Sora had this weird dream one night, the opening of KH1. Then he decides to write it down when he wakes up. He shows it to Riku and Kairi, and together they make a long story including all their favorite movie characters and other friends on the Islands. Then after a while, other denizens of the island are shown the story, and all the non-Disney characters in KH join together to make [[KH 2]]. Meanwhile, while Sora is busy writing [[KH 2]], Riku writes CoM with the help of Namine.


== Kingdom Hearts is the Nasu-Verse Holy Grail ==
== Kingdom Hearts is the Nasu-Verse Holy Grail ==
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== The [[Kingdom Hearts]] verse is a level of [[The Dark Tower]] ==
== The [[Kingdom Hearts]] verse is a level of [[The Dark Tower]] ==
I can't be the only Trope who'se thought of this. Kingdom Hearts is the "heart of all worlds," and {{spoiler|takes many different forms in different worlds.}} [[The Hero]], last of an ancient warrior of knights, must make his way across the multiverse, trying to thwart the villain and save the worlds from being consumed by darkness/Discordia. Parts of the multiverse are falling apart every second, and the villain wants nothing more than to control the center of the universe itself--the eponymous Dark Tower/the eponymous Kingdom Hearts. Sora is the [[Last of His Kind]] knight, with two [[True Companions|ka-tets]] for different parts of his life. Riku is Sussanah (fiercely independent, introspective, and slightly hot-headed, not to mention how they {{spoiler|[[Demonic Possession|both become possessed]]}}), and Kairi is Eddie Dean (snarker tendencies in [[KH 1]]). Goofy is Alain and Donald is Cuthbert.
I can't be the only Trope who'se thought of this. Kingdom Hearts is the "heart of all worlds," and {{spoiler|takes many different forms in different worlds.}} [[The Hero]], last of an ancient warrior of knights, must make his way across the multiverse, trying to thwart the villain and save the worlds from being consumed by darkness/Discordia. Parts of the multiverse are falling apart every second, and the villain wants nothing more than to control the center of the universe itself--the eponymous Dark Tower/the eponymous Kingdom Hearts. Sora is the [[Last of His Kind]] knight, with two [[True Companions|ka-tets]] for different parts of his life. Riku is Sussanah (fiercely independent, introspective, and slightly hot-headed, not to mention how they {{spoiler|[[Demonic Possession|both become possessed]]}}), and Kairi is Eddie Dean (snarker tendencies in KH1). Goofy is Alain and Donald is Cuthbert.


* [[Birth By Sleep]] can be seen as the KH version of the Battle of Jericho Hill, the point at which the world seriously began to move on...which, like in [[The Dark Tower]], wasn't revealed to the audience until a good number of installments later.
* [[Birth By Sleep]] can be seen as the KH version of the Battle of Jericho Hill, the point at which the world seriously began to move on...which, like in [[The Dark Tower]], wasn't revealed to the audience until a good number of installments later.
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If this theory is true, then there are implications for the futures of both franchises, although Nomura's story may deviate from the source material. The original Xehanort and the original [[G La DOS]] have now been reformed, and it is likely that they will pursue their original goals once again. Xehanort wants to start the Keyblade War and destroy the universe. [[G La DOS]]' original goal is unclear, but considering that her first action was the attempted murder of her creators, her agenda probably involves killing all of humanity, possibly involving exploiting the power vacuum left by the departure of the Combine. Sora's goal in Kingdom Hearts 3 is to save all the people connected to his heart, so Chell's goal will probably be similar - saving all the test subjects still trapped in the Enrichment Center.
If this theory is true, then there are implications for the futures of both franchises, although Nomura's story may deviate from the source material. The original Xehanort and the original [[G La DOS]] have now been reformed, and it is likely that they will pursue their original goals once again. Xehanort wants to start the Keyblade War and destroy the universe. [[G La DOS]]' original goal is unclear, but considering that her first action was the attempted murder of her creators, her agenda probably involves killing all of humanity, possibly involving exploiting the power vacuum left by the departure of the Combine. Sora's goal in Kingdom Hearts 3 is to save all the people connected to his heart, so Chell's goal will probably be similar - saving all the test subjects still trapped in the Enrichment Center.


The co-op campaign of Portal 2 could provide clues to Xehanort's actions in Kingdom Hearts 3D, which seems to involve co-op elements. Portal 2's co-op mode concludes with the discovery of hundreds of test subjects in stasis. Xehanort, if he wants to start a Keyblade War, needs Keyblade wielders, so Kingdom Hearts 3D may involve finding them. It is noteworthy that Portal 2's co-op does NOT involve Chell and is about one of [[G La DOS]]' goals, which suggests that the Riku and Sora in Kingdom Hearts 3D are not the characters we know and love, but impostors, perhaps replicas or data versions. Since [[G La DOS]] is Xehanort, if Kingdom Hearts 3D parallels Portal 2's co-op, then Master Yensid is probably in league with Xehanort, since he will be ''testing'' Sora and Riku for the Mark of Mastery in [[KH 3 D]]. The release of [[KH 3 D]] will confirm or disprove these theories.
The co-op campaign of Portal 2 could provide clues to Xehanort's actions in Kingdom Hearts 3D, which seems to involve co-op elements. Portal 2's co-op mode concludes with the discovery of hundreds of test subjects in stasis. Xehanort, if he wants to start a Keyblade War, needs Keyblade wielders, so Kingdom Hearts 3D may involve finding them. It is noteworthy that Portal 2's co-op does NOT involve Chell and is about one of [[G La DOS]]' goals, which suggests that the Riku and Sora in Kingdom Hearts 3D are not the characters we know and love, but impostors, perhaps replicas or data versions. Since [[G La DOS]] is Xehanort, if Kingdom Hearts 3D parallels Portal 2's co-op, then Master Yensid is probably in league with Xehanort, since he will be ''testing'' Sora and Riku for the Mark of Mastery in KH3D. The release of KH3D will confirm or disprove these theories.


Although Kingdom Hearts is an adaptation and not a straight retelling, the similarities between it and Portal are impossible to ignore. Recognizing these parallels can provide hints to the futures of both franchises, so Kingdom Hearts III and Portal 3 (if they ever get made) should confirm that the two stories are really one and the same.
Although Kingdom Hearts is an adaptation and not a straight retelling, the similarities between it and Portal are impossible to ignore. Recognizing these parallels can provide hints to the futures of both franchises, so Kingdom Hearts III and Portal 3 (if they ever get made) should confirm that the two stories are really one and the same.