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Looking for [[Fridge Logic]] and such for the rest of the series, excluding ''[[Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days]]''? [[Kingdom Hearts/Fridge|Check here]]. ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Birth
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* [[Fridge Brilliance]]: So, if Axel's such an asshole, why did he choose to be so nice to Roxas, of all people? {{spoiler|Lea met Ventus. Axel retains those memories. Boom, friendship. Though seeing as the meeting between Lea and Ven was only for a few minutes, that it can spark a "best friendship" with Roxas is...strange, to say the least.}}
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* In ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'', Roxas and his friends always end the day by eating ice cream. This bothered this Troper for a while, "Yes, yes, it was funny how it kept showing up in KH 2, let's move on already!" until she thought about it for a while. Where else would three people sit around together, enjoying a food that brought them closer? That's right! The ice cream is Roxas's paopu fruit.
* Let's tack on another [[Kingdom Hearts]] example courtesy of this troper. One thing always bothered me in ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'', and that was that occasionally, during cutscenes with Xion, her hood would alternate between being on and off (in the same scene) while it never showed her putting it up or down. I thought it was just shoddy use of models. I learned that due to the nature of Xion's existence, the Organization members all see her, literally see her, differently. This didn't really click with me until about a month after I had beaten the game and I was thinking about my hood peeve -- I realized that the scenes in which that happens all happen around Organization members who view her as a puppet without an identity, so it would only make sense for them to only see her with her hood up (i.e. faceless), while Roxas would be able to see her face!
* ''Xion'' from ''358/2 Days'' is another intentional [[Mary Sue]]. The (rather weak) promotional stuff for the game made her seem like a [[Canon Sue]] straight out of a fanfiction. All [[Common Mary Sue Traits]] were there; fourteenth member of Organization XIII, Kairi lookalike, wields a keyblade, and has a big impact on Roxas and Axel) Then the game came out. Xion's true ([[Opposite
** [[Xander K|This troper]] just had his own eureka moment. Xion was intentionally made out to be a [[Canon Sue|Mary Sue]], so we would not bother trying to guess {{spoiler|and spoil}} her story.
** It gets better. Xion isn't just based on Kairi, {{spoiler|she's based on Sora's [[Alternate Character Interpretation|interpretation]] of Kairi, the girl who, through all three games, he's had a [[Love Interest|painfully obvious crush on]]. So Xion's [[Common Mary Sue Traits]], like the keyblade-from-nowhere and the instant attraction to Roxas? Most of them can be chalked up to Sora fantasizing about Kairi! [[That Came Out Wrong|(err... in a good way...)]]}}
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** And of course, the "Over 2" refers to {{spoiler|Roxas and Xion siphoning off of Sora's memories}}.
*** Didn't [[Word of God]] confirm the "Over 2" referred to the night Roxas went to sleep and woke up in the Twilight Town simulation?
* [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on whether this is [[Fridge Brilliance]] or [[Fridge Horror|not]], generally depending on whether you're [[Squick|male]] or [[Squee|female]], but I realized one day that though there are (however slight) canonical implications of Riku/Xion, thus making him [[Yaoi Fangirl|unfortunately straight]], if one thinks about who Xion really ''[[Opposite
** Does that mean that Riku is bisexual?
*** That adds a whole new level to Xion's intentional [[Mary Sue]] ness. The made it seem like every thing [[Yaoi Fangirls]] would hate, but in honesty, if the supposedly [[Het Is Ew|het subtext was]] [[Canon]], that means that Riku and Roxas are at least [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|partially gay.]]
*** Does it matter? To quote a very excellent Kingdom Hearts [[
*** It matters to the fangirls.
*** [[Insane Troll Logic|Apparently, logic doesn't.]]
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** Confirmed by [[Word of God]].
* At some point early in the game, Roxas gets the day off. He generally spends this day derping around and trying to figure out what he's supposed to do with himself, but that's beside the point. This vacation occurs on Day 118 of Roxas's time in the Organization. Now, to me, Kingdom Hearts 2 has always taken place in late Summer/early Fall, as we see, during the course of kh2, the Struggle Match, which according to DTT residents, always happens right before school starts. Since Roxas spent exactly one year as a separate being from Sora, this means he was born some time in late summer/early fall. There are exactly 116 days between September 1 and December 25. Yes, fellow tropers, Xemnas gave the Organization a Christmas/New Year's vacation.
* After completing the Neverland stage in ''
* Axel and Saïx are sun and moon. Yeah, Saïx obviously draws power from the moon and that's the symbolism there, but what's Axel's? Look at his weapon - The chakrams actually look like a sun. And sun is often associated with fire...
** An extension of this: Axel's "You know why the sun sets red?" talk... He was talking about ''himself'': He's the color red, the one member of the Organization, who "traveled the farthest", ergo, got closest to regaining his heart: By formining a friendship with Roxas and becoming a piece of his/Ventus' heart.
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** Unfortunately, there must be two of them, because Roxas was also using the Kingdom Key for the period of time between the end of KHI and the end of [[Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories|KH:CoM]]... at the same time as Sora. I'm pretty sure Nomura even confirmed somewhere that they were using the same Keyblade. Besides, how would Riku know about the X-blade, much less about the Kingdom Key being half of it?
*** However, Xion's keyblade is indeed a fake. Xion being a {{spoiler|replica of Sora's memories, his memories of being a keyblade spawned a replica of one for her to use.}}
* It always annoyed me how {{spoiler|Xion got her keyblade back.}} I mean, "Forgot how to use it?" [[Flat What|What?]] Then I played
* [[Fridge Brilliance]] / Tearjerker: In the scene where Roxas and Xion meet Genie, Genie remarks that they could do better than a simple, "Nice to meet you too," kind of thing. Tearjerker comes in when you realize that because they're Nobodies, they actually CAN'T do better. Whenever they go into worlds and meet people with Hearts, they're doomed to see everyone around them all enthusiastic and happy/sad/angry/etc while they themselves cannot. Brilliance comes in when you realize that it may be one of the reasons they are to remain stealthy. Interacting with normal people, with the Tearjerker in mind, would most definitely lower morale in the group.
** But if they don't have emotions, how can they have morale?
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* The [[Blind Idiot Translation|infamous translation errors between]] [[Kingdom Hearts|KH1]] [[Blind Idiot Translation|and]] [[Kingdom Hearts II|KH2]] may seem particularly odd at first... until you realise they AREN'T translation miscues. Would Organization 13 have known or cared about what Jimminy Cricket named the Heartless? Nope. They named them what they wanted.
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