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* [[Broken Base]]: {{spoiler|There was a MASSIVE [[Internet Backdraft]] after it was revealed that Vanitas looked just like Sora, as at this point many have grown sick of Sora clones or counterparts.}}
* [[Broken Base]]: {{spoiler|There was a MASSIVE [[Internet Backdraft]] after it was revealed that Vanitas looked just like Sora, as at this point many have grown sick of Sora clones or counterparts.}}
* [[Complete Monster]]:
* [[Complete Monster]]:
** Vanitas and Master Xehanort. The former is {{spoiler|[[Made of Evil]], so he really can't be anything else}} and the latter started out with [[Well Intentioned Extremist|good intentions]], but neither of them show any remorse for their actions. Xehanort, in particular, turns out to have been personally responsible for pretty much ''everything'' that is wrong in the ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' universe.
** Vanitas and Master Xehanort. The former is {{spoiler|[[Made of Evil]], so he really can't be anything else}} and the latter started out with [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|good intentions]], but neither of them show any remorse for their actions. Xehanort, in particular, turns out to have been personally responsible for pretty much ''everything'' that is wrong in the ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' universe.
** Let's see, Master Xehanort [[Manipulative Bastard|uses]] Ventus to {{spoiler|combine him with [[Dragon With an Agenda|Van]][[Magnificent Bastard|itas]] in order to allow himself access to [[Eldritch Location|Kingdom Hearts]], thereby gaining control of all worlds and plunging the multiverse into a second Keyblade War, which was ''[[Apocalypse How|what broke the worlds apart in the first place]]''. The reason? [[For Science|he just wants to see what will happen as a result]]}}. Terra, meanwhile, {{spoiler|is manipulated into succumbing to darkness, so he can provide a suitable new vessel for Xehanort to [[Grand Theft Me|steal]]}}.
** Let's see, Master Xehanort [[Manipulative Bastard|uses]] Ventus to {{spoiler|combine him with [[Dragon With an Agenda|Van]][[Magnificent Bastard|itas]] in order to allow himself access to [[Eldritch Location|Kingdom Hearts]], thereby gaining control of all worlds and plunging the multiverse into a second Keyblade War, which was ''[[Apocalypse How|what broke the worlds apart in the first place]]''. The reason? [[For Science!|he just wants to see what will happen as a result]]}}. Terra, meanwhile, {{spoiler|is manipulated into succumbing to darkness, so he can provide a suitable new vessel for Xehanort to [[Grand Theft Me|steal]]}}.
** From the RPG Fan website review of the game: "It gracefully sidesteps the sympathetic villain trope and makes the antagonist an irredeemable, deplorable monster."
** From the RPG Fan website review of the game: "It gracefully sidesteps the sympathetic villain trope and makes the antagonist an irredeemable, deplorable monster."
** The Evil Queen, a status she's had since the movie.
** The Evil Queen, a status she's had since the movie.
* [[Ear Worm]]: Disney Town has the old Mickey Mouse Club song playing in the background. One of the rhythm games is "It's A Small World After All." [[Driven to Madness|Aaaarrgh!]]
* [[Ear Worm]]: Disney Town has the old Mickey Mouse Club song playing in the background. One of the rhythm games is "It's A Small World After All." [[Driven to Madness|Aaaarrgh!]]
** And there's Cinderella's world, Castle of Dreams, whose overworld theme is "Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo".
** And there's Cinderella's world, Castle of Dreams, whose overworld theme is "Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo".
* [[Eight Point Eight]]: GameSpot gave the game a 7.5. Cue the angry mob.
* [[8.8]]: GameSpot gave the game a 7.5. Cue the angry mob.
* [[Even Better Sequel|Even Better Prequel]]: Many regard this game as one of the better in the series, if not the best, mostly due to its battle system (which is regarded as the most polished, refined, and just plain fun one yet) and the story.
* [[Even Better Sequel|Even Better Prequel]]: Many regard this game as one of the better in the series, if not the best, mostly due to its battle system (which is regarded as the most polished, refined, and just plain fun one yet) and the story.
* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig.
* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Vanitas, Xehanort, and Braig.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Vanitas. {{spoiler|You don't realize this until the end of Ven's story, when he unmasks himself and reveals that he looks ''just like Sora''... except with a more muscular build, black hair, and [[Eyes of Gold|gold eyes.]]}}
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Vanitas. {{spoiler|You don't realize this until the end of Ven's story, when he unmasks himself and reveals that he looks ''just like Sora''... except with a more muscular build, black hair, and [[Eyes of Gold|gold eyes.]]}}
* [[Fan Preferred Couple]]: Many fans ship [[Anti Hero|Terra]]/[[Action Girl|Aqua]]. Yep, for once a frequently-shipped pairing in this fandom that ISN'T a yaoi one (though Ven/Vanitas counterbalances this.)
* [[Fan Preferred Couple]]: Many fans ship [[Anti-Hero|Terra]]/[[Action Girl|Aqua]]. Yep, for once a frequently-shipped pairing in this fandom that ISN'T a yaoi one (though Ven/Vanitas counterbalances this.)
* [[Foe Yay]]: Master Xehanort ''really'' wants Terra's body.
* [[Foe Yay]]: Master Xehanort ''really'' wants Terra's body.
** Vanitas has a bit of it with Ven (and to a lesser extent, Aqua).
** Vanitas has a bit of it with Ven (and to a lesser extent, Aqua).
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* [[Idiot Plot]]:
* [[Idiot Plot]]:
** Terra's story basically revolves around him trusting the first person he meets. 90% of the time it's a villain. {{spoiler|It's also the reason he lost his body.}}
** Terra's story basically revolves around him trusting the first person he meets. 90% of the time it's a villain. {{spoiler|It's also the reason he lost his body.}}
** The entire game can count as one due to the plot only really being kept going because the main heroes are idiots that [[Poor Communication Kills|lack common sense and social skills]]. [[Unwitting Pawn|Terra]] and [[What an Idiot|Eraqus]] are the worst examples, {{spoiler|and [[Too Dumb to Live|Eraqus even gets taken out for his role in starting the mess]]}}, but [[Plot Coupon|Ventus]] and [[Team Mom|Aqua]] are no better. By the time they wise up enough to take on the [[Big Bad]], {{spoiler|[[Too Dumb to Live|it turns out to be too late and their stupid decisions catch up to them]], leading to a [[Downer Ending]].}}
** The entire game can count as one due to the plot only really being kept going because the main heroes are idiots that [[Poor Communication Kills|lack common sense and social skills]]. [[Unwitting Pawn|Terra]] and [[What an Idiot!|Eraqus]] are the worst examples, {{spoiler|and [[Too Dumb to Live|Eraqus even gets taken out for his role in starting the mess]]}}, but [[Plot Coupon|Ventus]] and [[Team Mom|Aqua]] are no better. By the time they wise up enough to take on the [[Big Bad]], {{spoiler|[[Too Dumb to Live|it turns out to be too late and their stupid decisions catch up to them]], leading to a [[Downer Ending]].}}
* [[Iron Woobie]]: Regardless of the main trio's flaws, hardships or no, ''they all keep trucking''. {{spoiler|And while the end result is largely a disaster, they ''do'' [[Spanner in The Works|manage to collectively derail most of Master Xehanort's plans]], with the remaining pieces failing into place for Sora & co. to clean up a decade later.}}
* [[Iron Woobie]]: Regardless of the main trio's flaws, hardships or no, ''they all keep trucking''. {{spoiler|And while the end result is largely a disaster, they ''do'' [[Spanner in The Works|manage to collectively derail most of Master Xehanort's plans]], with the remaining pieces failing into place for Sora & co. to clean up a decade later.}}
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Master Xehanort. He makes Terra run off and fight the Unversed, making his darkness stronger so Xehanort can take his body. He keeps Ven fighting Unversed and Vanitas, gets Terra to help him kill Master Eraqus, and then brings all of his plans together in one place. ''And they all almost worked''!
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Master Xehanort. He makes Terra run off and fight the Unversed, making his darkness stronger so Xehanort can take his body. He keeps Ven fighting Unversed and Vanitas, gets Terra to help him kill Master Eraqus, and then brings all of his plans together in one place. ''And they all almost worked''!
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Aqua. There's a ''reason'' she's given the title "Master" at the beginning. Due to the timeline, Mickey hasn't quite reached this point, but he's getting there. Heck, Aqua's final battle {{spoiler|aside from her REAL final one with Terranort}} has Mickey fighting alongside her. Memetic Badasses [[Back to Back Badasses|fight together]]!
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Aqua. There's a ''reason'' she's given the title "Master" at the beginning. Due to the timeline, Mickey hasn't quite reached this point, but he's getting there. Heck, Aqua's final battle {{spoiler|aside from her REAL final one with Terranort}} has Mickey fighting alongside her. Memetic Badasses [[Back-to-Back Badasses|fight together]]!
** Vanitas has been propelled to this title, alongside being crowned as a [[Memetic Molester]].
** Vanitas has been propelled to this title, alongside being crowned as a [[Memetic Molester]].
* [[Memetic Molester]]: Even. And as mentioned above, Vanitas.
* [[Memetic Molester]]: Even. And as mentioned above, Vanitas.
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** You think that's bad? That's just a younger, [[Tetsuya Nomura|Nomura-style]] Zack with an [[Hercules (Disney)|Hercules]]-[[X Meets Y|meets]]-[[Crisis Core|Crisis-Core]]-style armor. The real trouble is unmasked Vanitas. Now, the {{spoiler|"evil Sora"}} face can mesh with a bodysuit, but '''not''' with a Riku-esque battle stance. It just feels so... unnatural.
** You think that's bad? That's just a younger, [[Tetsuya Nomura|Nomura-style]] Zack with an [[Hercules (Disney)|Hercules]]-[[X Meets Y|meets]]-[[Crisis Core|Crisis-Core]]-style armor. The real trouble is unmasked Vanitas. Now, the {{spoiler|"evil Sora"}} face can mesh with a bodysuit, but '''not''' with a Riku-esque battle stance. It just feels so... unnatural.
* [[The Woobie]]:
* [[The Woobie]]:
** All three of the main trio count, though Terra can veer toward the [[Jerkass Woobie|"I want to slap]] [[What an Idiot|the guy!"]] variety for much of the game.
** All three of the main trio count, though Terra can veer toward the [[Jerkass Woobie|"I want to slap]] [[What an Idiot!|the guy!"]] variety for much of the game.
** There has been much fan-gushery about Ansem's youngest apprentice, Ienzo, who evidently lost his parents and is now being raised as another scientist in a house of thirty-somethings. Of course, it doesn't hurt that he will grow up into one of the series' biggest fangirl magnets, either... But considering that he is the one who convinced Ansem to pursue their studies on darkness in people's hearts, {{spoiler|helped banish ''his own adoptive father'' to the Realm of Nothingness}}, and then became a member of Organization XIII, Ienzo/Zexion is even more of a [[Jerkass Woobie]] than Terra, in that you want to slap him for ''willful'' malice rather than from stupid naivete.
** There has been much fan-gushery about Ansem's youngest apprentice, Ienzo, who evidently lost his parents and is now being raised as another scientist in a house of thirty-somethings. Of course, it doesn't hurt that he will grow up into one of the series' biggest fangirl magnets, either... But considering that he is the one who convinced Ansem to pursue their studies on darkness in people's hearts, {{spoiler|helped banish ''his own adoptive father'' to the Realm of Nothingness}}, and then became a member of Organization XIII, Ienzo/Zexion is even more of a [[Jerkass Woobie]] than Terra, in that you want to slap him for ''willful'' malice rather than from stupid naivete.
** Both the novels and the game tints {{spoiler|Vanitas}} to be a [[Woobie Destroyer of Worlds]] instead of the unrepentant [[Complete Monster]] he appears to be in the game, to different extents. In the novel, any anger he feels results in an Unversed being born from him, and no matter how many times he tries to destroy them, every time he does, he feels an unbearable pain as a result. The cycle continues, and it is hinted that his reason why he wanted to reunite with Ventus was more or less salvation for him. Again, this is only in the novel adaptations; in the game, there is never even a remote hint that {{spoiler|Vanitas}} feels any sort of pain when spawning or re-absorbing Unversed (if anything, he seems to enjoy it when he's seen doing it!) If the novels ''are'' canon, this might fall under [[Being Tortured Makes You Evil|that premise that eventually he started]] [[Combat Sadomasochist|''liking'' the pain.]] The game itself explicitly states that the Unversed are created from {{spoiler|Vanitas'}} negative emotions, so he pretty much has to feel himself horrible, all the time.
** Both the novels and the game tints {{spoiler|Vanitas}} to be a [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]] instead of the unrepentant [[Complete Monster]] he appears to be in the game, to different extents. In the novel, any anger he feels results in an Unversed being born from him, and no matter how many times he tries to destroy them, every time he does, he feels an unbearable pain as a result. The cycle continues, and it is hinted that his reason why he wanted to reunite with Ventus was more or less salvation for him. Again, this is only in the novel adaptations; in the game, there is never even a remote hint that {{spoiler|Vanitas}} feels any sort of pain when spawning or re-absorbing Unversed (if anything, he seems to enjoy it when he's seen doing it!) If the novels ''are'' canon, this might fall under [[Being Tortured Makes You Evil|that premise that eventually he started]] [[Combat Sadomasochist|''liking'' the pain.]] The game itself explicitly states that the Unversed are created from {{spoiler|Vanitas'}} negative emotions, so he pretty much has to feel himself horrible, all the time.


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