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== As darkness becomes light, light falls into darkness ==

== On a similar note, something terrible is going to happen to Sora. ==

* ''CONFIRMED.'' {{spoiler|Sora's heart becomes shattered towards the end of the game, and it looks like we'll have another Ventus(quite hilarious considering all the other similarites betwen them). At least until Riku comes along and restores Sora's heart, with the end having Sora back in the realm of sleep as a [[Friend to All Living Things|Friend to all Dream-Eaters]] and showing Ventus, who actually fidgets a bit in his sleep.}}

== What 3D possibly means. ==

{{quote| Sora... are you certain you can ''trust'' Riku?}}

* I fully expect that to rear its head again.

* The recent trailer from Jump Festa also hints at this. It shows Ansem Seeker of Darkness picking up a sword while Riku asks him why he's here. Later on, Xemnas is shown questioning how a "heartless doll" can have a heart, to which Sora responds "Don't you all have hearts too?". Seems odd that he'd be asking a Nobody that question, considering how gung ho he was about the whole "Nobodies don't have hearts" stance in KHII.

== Possible Disney worlds ==

* ''[[Lilo and Stitch]]'' seems likely, since there was a Stitch space world in BBS. This time it'll most likely be in Hawaii, though.

** Never say never, but it seems unlikely. TAV filled Lilo's role of ridding Stitch of his [[Crush! Kill! Destroy!]] mindset. This is coupled with the fact that the general Japanese feelings about Lilo are... mixed at best.

** Um... nope. Because that would mean [[Furry Fandom|more "fans"]].

*** Too late to worry about that. Sora turned into a merboy in the first game and a lion in the second. And Sora would probably turn into a lion again. The mane would work well with his spiky hair.

** As a [[Breather Level]], perhaps?

* ''[[Pocahontas]]''. It's one of the most famous movies not yet used.

** This is supported by the fact that a Pinocchio world was [[Dummied Out|left out]] of ''Days''.

** '''Confirmed''': Prankster's Paradise.

** Which means Sora ''might'' turn into a Muppet<ref>Humans exist in the Muppets world and interact regularly with the Muppets, too, so ''might''.</ref>. That is just [[Crazy Awesome]].

**** It could even be the new Hundred Acre Wood, themed around the concept of an episode of ''[[The Muppet Show]]'' with Sora and/or Riku as the guest star(s)<ref>possibly Donald and Goofy too, if it's in a main series game rather than ''3D''</ref>. It could have various minigames based on segments from the show (Atlantica-like musical numbers, Swedish Chef's kitchen, Pigs in Space, Fozzie's comedy acts, Gonzo's stunts, etc.) It also gives the opportunity for hilarious, "Muppety" bits such as Miss Piggy dressing up as Kairi and trying to woo our heroes!

* ''[[The Great Mouse Detective]]'', which will culminate in a battle on Big Ben, much like the movie.

* ''[[Tangled]]''. Rapunzel would make an awesome party member. And considering that it's now one of [[Disney]]'s most successful animated movies...

* ''[[Oliver and Company]]''. Hey, it could happen.

* There will be a full-fledged ''[[Fantasia]]'' area, with ''Toccata and Fugue'' being some sort of [[Mushroom Samba]] level, ''Rite of Spring'' taking the bulk of the area, a possible [[Arcadia]] area for the ''Pastoral Symphony'', and ''The Firebird'' being the boss.

** '''Confirmed''': Symphony of Sorcery (no word on whether ''Fantasia 2000'' material like the Firebird will appear, though).

** No; since it's been confirmed, it isn't exactly a "possible" world, now is it? It's a '''confirmed''' world.

* Gonna go for the greedy and impossible wish here: Sora enters a new world full of smoke and steel and tall glass towers. [[Gargoyles|And as the sun sets, the statues around him come to life.]]

** And for a little extra greed, Spider-man shows up too... hey, they ARE owned by Disney now.

** Add another extra greed! Even though the series was made by [[Bandai]]. [[Legendz]]!

* The [[Marvel]] universe... or at the very least, [[Deadpool]] as a [[Bonus Boss]].

* Live Action Alice in Wonderland, introduced in order to bring up a plot point about how there can be multiple versions of the same world.

** '''As of now''', the [[The Unexpected|newly revealed world based on The Three Musketeers]] seems to support this theory about multiple words. Given we know nothing about it, though, nobody knows.

* [[Darkwing Duck|St Canard]] is unlikely, but one can dream.

* [[Up|Paradise Falls]]!

* [[Star Wars|The Death Star]]. This would be a pretty big stretch, but ''might'' happen considering how much [[Disney Theme Parks]] involvement the ''[[Star Wars]]'' franchise has. If ''[[Star Wars]]'' did appear in the game (whether as a world or just as a bunch of characters/summons), Darth Vader would probably be a Maleficent-like major villain, maybe even a new, more competent [[The Dragon|Dragon]] to Maleficent herself if Pete {{spoiler|stays dead or stays good - but it looks like he's alive and back to his old self in the trailer}}.

== Possible future characters, both Disney and Final Fantasy ==

** Possibly [[Final Fantasy VI|Kefka]].

*** Someone like Kefka can fit in pretty well in a place like 16th Century France. It would also be awesome to see two of the most [[Complete Monster|sadistic bastards]] from their respective franchises in the same screen. Maybe have a funny exchange like this:

**** ...so what?

* In order to save {{spoiler|Ventus}}, Sora will have to do something similar to a dive to the heart.

** With Roxas or {{spoiler|Xion}} as a party member.

* '''Confirmed'''. They're called Dream Eaters.

== Kairi, while not playable, will finally show some level of fighting ability in this game ==

== This is the only game that non FF characters will appear in. ==

** Characters designed by Nomura are probably the most likely on either side of the FF fence.

== The old Tagline from the original will return this time. ==

** Now it's a bit of a stretch, but 2012 marking [[Milestone Celebration|the tenth anniversary of the whole series]] supports this theory.

== The Neku here is from a different [[Alternate Universe]] than the main story or Another Day. ==

== The Realm of Sleep Sora and Riku will travel through will allow access into the subconsciousness of the worlds. ==

== Sho Minamimoto will appear. ==

** I don't know about that. TWEWY was basically confirmed to one day get a sequel (you can see it on its page). They'd most likely keep Sho for the sequel. I don't totally discount the thought that he may be in the game, but it'd have to end with him escaping again. Assuming TWEWY and Kingdom Hearts are in the same continuity.

** WMG seconded by [[User:Alex Sora 89]]. So far, confirmed TWEWY characters are Neku, Shiki, Joshua, Beat, and Rhyme. Given this is already awesome and [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|rejoice-inducing]] by itself, we could say that we already have enough characters, considering TWEWY characters only have cameos and therefore aren't going to be central to the plot, as ''[[Kingdom Hearts I]]'' did the same with characters from ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' and ''[[Final Fantasy VIII]]''. However, with that said, such a large amount of returning characters ''needs'' a villain from their same world (even if it's just for an early subplot), so [[Square Enix]] is likely to be [[Genre Savvy]] enough to pick up an [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] like Sho Minamimoto in order to [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|make the rejoicing begin anew.]]

** On the other hand, Xemnas/Xehanort might take the entire role of a Gamemaster, setting the rules of the Game (Neku at one point is seen charging at a hooded figure yelling "This is not what we agreed on!") - but then it's unclear what would that make of Joshua's role.

* The theory explains itself. The only problem is whether it'll actually get a world of it's own (which creates its own problem - would it be Shibuya or "Earth"?) or whether Neku showing up in Traverse Town means that his world is destroyed. That's what Traverse Town was in Kingdom Hearts 1 - a world that housed people whose own worlds were destroyed.

** By the fact that {{spoiler|Shibuya isn't seen in the Realm of Sleep (where all the worlds that weren't perfectly restored went) it see like Shibuya is restored.}}

''BBS'' confirms that Yen Sid is a retired Keyblade Master, and he's the only character on the side of good who's '''1)''' not out of commission and '''2)''' hails from the time when Keyblade wielders (the ones we know of, anyway) were able to transform their Keyblades into... well, stuff other than Keyblades. It wouldn't make sense for Yen Sid to not share the secrets of the Keyblade, especially if it could help prepare them for the future {{spoiler|and the battle with Xehanort}}.

* And one assumes that Riku gets a hoverbike?

** Given the final battle in ''II'', most certainly.

== The worlds are "sleeping" because they're damaged in some way, and aren't necessarily limited to the ones submerged in darkness before Kingdom Hearts I ==

Now, it's quite possible that La Cite de Cloches and Prankster's Paradise were swallowed by the darkness, since we haven't seen them before. But what about The Country of the Musketeers and the TRON: Legacy world? We've seen worlds using their characters (or at least, from similar backgrounds) before, and even been to them, and it doesn't seem likely Disney Castle or Space Paranoids were submerged in darkness after KHII. According to the Famitsu article after the Tokyo Game Show, the dreams of the worlds submerged in sleep are the setting, and once the keyhole of sleep in each world is found, they will be restored to their original form. Also in the trailer, Yen Sid says that the worlds that are asleep cannot be reached by the Heartless... we already know that the Heartless can't enter Disney Castle under normal circumstances (due to the Cornerstone of Light), and we've never seen Heartless get into Space Paranoids, except for the program Heartless generated internally by the MCP. We also know that in Kingdom Hearts, sleep is often a medium for recovery... perhaps these worlds we've seen in 3D are secretly damaged and trying to heal.

** On that note it was mention(I believe by Tron himself) that the Space Paranoids in Ansem's computer is nothing more than a copy that was made by a thief. Maybe the game will also explain that.

** Dunno if it actually is Pride Lands, but a very Pride Lands-ish world appears in the new gameplay videos on the game website. Although Sora is a human and they may just have used Pride Lands for the sake of demonstration.

Just look at [http://images.wikia.com/kingdomhearts/images/7/7f/Vlcsnap-2011-12-20-21h53m27s14.png this.] It's ''the very same'' pose Neku had in one of his [http://www.spriters-resource.com/ds/iaww/sheet/1687 standard mugshots.]

*** [[I Knew It!]]! It's been basically confirmed [http://kh13.com/forum/topic/30393-kingdom-hearts-3d-in-nintendo-power/ in the Nintendo Power interview:] "In previous games in the Kingdom Hearts series, Final Fantasy characters made appearances and gave Sora guidance to help with his adventure. This time, it’s characters from The World Ends with You who perform that role". On the good side, this implies the characters' roles will be far more relevant to the story than just mere cameos, but on the bad side... just, ''damn it'', Nomura.

As a wild idea for why some of the past villains have returned.

* Wait you mean in the possible real world sequences right?

== We'll see more of the organization members revived ==

* yep, it's Jossed

Well that have Shiki Misaki in the Games, So it would be Something if her {{spoiler|Real-Self is fully show in this Games.}}

* [[Memetic Mutation|O RLY?]] Because, if the 8-minute official trailer is anything to go by, that's ''exactly what's gonna happen.''

== Riku's story will end with Riku {{spoiler|sacrificing himself in order to free Terra from Xehanort's control}}. ==

** So you want Terra to be freed and Riku to be possessed(again), isn't that a bit redundent. I doubt they would do something like that because the two have so many similarities already and it would wear thin with many fans. On that note the Xehanort in the 2012 Jump trailer is a young MX thus being likely that he will be reborn like that rather than possess someone else again.

*** Ugh, ''hell'' no. When I stated my theory, I didn't mean it was something I wanted by that. It's just something I [[I Knew It!|feared.]]

The reason he's there is a mystery to me as of this moment. Maybe Ienzo told him that some of Ansem's Tech is on a world he's never seen before and asked him (Lea) to get it for him(Ienzo), who really knows at this point. After Lea saves Mickey, Mickey will then tell him about Xion. This may have something to do with Xion becoming her own person.

* Interesting theory, but does Mickey even know about her? And even if he did, wouldn't have have {{spoiler|forgotten about her like everyone else}}?

*** Yes, but only as "black-haired girl whose name I don't know". And describing that to Lea probably won't trigger remembering her, to be honest.

*** Remember, her memories were absorbed into Sora. Spending some time with Lea might awaken some of her and Roxas's memories, therefor theres a possibility (which I think is likely) that Sora will learn Xion's name through said memories and the he'll tell Lea. Sora may even force Lea to reanact that tearjerking fight he had with Xion back in Days if it is needed.

== Vanitas's return will be due to Xehanort. ==

So, Xehanort, at some point in this game, will unlock or do SOMETHING to Sora's heart that will remove that darkness and revive Vanitas. It'll be up to the creators to figure out how this would affect anything else within Sora, such as Ventus's heart and Sora's own heart. Either way, the darkness that lay within, is Vanitas. And somehow, Vanitas will escape and be reborn.

== The TWEWY Players will be allies, and can also be fought later in the game. ==

* This only supports [[User:Alex Sora 89|my]] theory above about ''TWEWY'' cameos acting as ''FF'' characters' replacements on Nintendo consoles from this game onwards.

Ones that aren't already listed above.

* [[The Swan Princess]]: Given that there is a princess and it is a fantasy world.

* [[The Brave Little Toaster]]: It's not really a Disney movie but it's one of the classics.

** How many of these are Disney movies? Classic or not, they kind of have to belong to Disney.

*** Corpse Bride is a [[Warner Bros]] movie, so it's kind of a no-go. Despite being made by [[Tim Burton]] and all.

== The memories of those in the Realm of Sleep are altered ==

As for Lea's apparent [[Big Damn Heroes]] moment where he comes to the aid of Mickey & co. against Maleficent, it's probably a tangentially-related mission. Maleficent might not be as big a threat as Xehanort, but she's ''still'' the Mistress of all Evil.

The Jump Festa trailer shows that Mickey from that world knows what a Keyblade is, though he doesn't recognize Sora and he mentions that he's infiltrating that world for some reason. Also, obviously Master Yen Sid is from [[Fantasia]] and Mickey's his apprentice. There isn't really any basis for there to be multiple versions of the same characters existing on different worlds in this series anyway, and it would explain why Donald and Goofy didn't realize what was going on in Timeless River right away or that Pete used to be a Steamboat Captain. Really all of this should be pretty obvious when thought about...

== The Tron Legacy world ==

== The whole game is a quest to awaken Ventus,Terra,Xion and Roxas ==

== {{spoiler|Donald, Goofy and Mickey}} are going to be [[Secret Character]] Party Members. ==

* Oh, sh[[Last-Second Word Swap|oot]]. My theory has [http://kh13.com/forum/topic/31397-kingdom-hearts-3d-in-famitsu-weekly-interview-summary/ just been jossed!] The last [[Hope Spot|hope]] is Nomura... well, [[I Pulled a Weird Al|pulling a]] [[Lying Creator|Nomura.]]

== The [[Super Boss]] will be any of the following: ==

* Another Unknown. It would make a lot of sense, considering that in the other 'main' games (or Final Mixes of said games), there would be an Unknown type of character with insane strength. However, this time, he/she won't be plot relevant.

* A giant Mr. Mew. Shiki and Neku activated their Level 3 Fusion, but something went wrong and Mr. Mew is on a rampage.

* Xion. They'll make you fight her armored forms as a [[Sequential Boss]] just like in the end of Days, and even use the same music (or remixes of the tracks) for each phase. However, she'll have some new tricks that require you to take advantage of the Free Flow Action. Alternatively, if the Ursula boss battle being a part of the 'Memoirs' feature is true, this will be part of it too.

* A character from a Pixar movie. As a hint that they're going to start using Pixar worlds soon.

* Jossed, the for the first time ever, the Bonus Boss is a Disney Character.

** Also, there's probably going to be a Final Mix type release, so any of these still have a chance.

== The dropping like thing in the trailers will be like flying a gummi ship between worlds. ==

* Confirmed in a somewhat obscure interview that may be older than this WMG.

== The game's cover art is major spoilers ==

* I remember Final Fantasy 13 did the same thing with it's cover. But the fact remains that when people first picked up the game, they merely thought it was pretty or cool. It wasn't until after the game did people realize what the cover ''really'' showed. It's more of less the same situation here: we don't know if it's spoilers, lying or unrelated, and we won't until it's out.

** Confirmed in a symbolic way: {{spoiler|[[Does This Remind You of Anything?|Sora's heart shatters and he falls into a deep sleep in the darkness.]] Riku makes him better though.}}

* {{spoiler|'''CONFIRMED'''}}

His helmeted form even makes him look like Rinzler, which will cause Sora to initially brush him off as one of CLU's [[Mooks]].

{{quote| '''Sora:''' One program? Does CLU really think you're enough to stop me?<br />

== Maleficent's new villain team. ==

** Jossed. The various villains have no affiliation with each other, Maleficent only shows up at Disney castle [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|and neither Man nor Rourke show up in the game.]]

== The Memoirs feature ''is'' going to [[And the Fandom Rejoiced|allow players to re-live classic moments from the past]]. ==

* '''Jossed''' [http://kh13.com/forum/topic/31821-cvg-preview-kingdom-hearts-dream-drop-distance/ This baby] says otherwise. Apparently during the opening, Sora and Riku use a raft to leave the dream Destiny Islands. On the way, out of no where Ursula comes and tries to kill you. Talk about diving in head first.

** [[Heh, Heh, You Said "X"|Heh heh...]] [[Incredibly Lame Pun|diving.]] So [[User:Alex Sora 89|this troper's]] hopes about the rumored "early boss battle" being a [[Bonus Boss]] instead have been crushed. Oh well, there's still the "Free Fall Action: Battle" thing about the Memoirs, so it's still anyone's game, I guess.

== The Young Xehanort is the memories that got locked away when Terranort caused his amnesia. ==

* Think about it, sleeping characters, people who hold multiple persona's and the game is about regaining what was once lost, AND this kid has Vanitas with him, so basically, The Young Xehanort is his time as an apprentice given physical form.

== {{spoiler|Axel's keyblade comes from Xehanort.}} ==

Next up, superficialities, aside from his looks: Roxas wields the Keyblade forehanded, rather than backhanded. While he does not employ Riku's battle stance, as Vanitas does, this still closer to him than it is to Ventus, who wields his keyblade backhanded. Of course, this could be a simple effect of his connection to Sora's memories. He is deriving his battle style from Sora's. Still, it's worth mentioning. Something simmilarly insignificant, yet worth mentioning: "Vanitas" means "Emptiness" and Nomura stated this meaning was chosen on purpose, possibly even before it was decided he'd look like Sora. Now, Vanitas, himself, while being called "empty" by Xehanort is clearly ''not''. He has wishes, desires, emotions and a lot of other things that defy the concept of "empty". This bears a striking resemblance to how Nobodies are threated in [[KH 2]], especially Roxas, making it possible that the name was supposed to be a hint. Probably coincidentally, but also worth noticing: Both names end on "as".

Vanitas appears in the game for all but 2 seconds, talking in unision with Young Master Xehanort. This brief scene is very possibly just a vision Sora has upon hearing YMX speak, though it makes you wonder how active Vanitas' conciousness is within him by that point. Flash foreward to Sora's [[Mind Screw]] Royal in The World That Never Was: In his dream, Sora encounters Roxas... Who promptly states that things aren't well the way they are and infuses Sora with his memories. All at once, suddenly, with little explanation and not preparing him at all, playing directly into Xehanort's plans with it. Now... Why would Roxas do this? The "Roxas" Sora meets clearly is completly aware of what is going on and, unlike the other dream-people Sora meets, actually speaks to him for a while, implying he is doing the memory transfer conciously and willingly. However, all the memory transfer accomplishes at that point is to scare Sora so baddly that he goes into an [[Heroic BSOD]] and finally has his heart shattered by Xemnas, which benefits Team Xehanort greatly. So if Roxas was even one bit aware of what was going on he ''knew'' this was going to happen, and he still did this. Why? Being allied to Xehanort somehow (which is tragic) seems to be the only plausible explanation. Also, look at Roxas face when he transfers the memories. His expression looks surprisingly like Vanitas', when he held the X-Blade and challenged Ventus within their Dive Into Heart and is pretty much identical to Vanitas' expression in afformentioned [[One-Scene Wonder]] moment. Even more striking: If you take a close look at the timelines of Riku's and Sora's stories, you will notice that Roxas' disappearance from Sora's dream almost immediately coincides with Riku's battle against ''Anti Black Coat'', a Nightmare-Type Dream Eater, who looks exactly like what Vanitas' "true" form has been described to look like, even featuring a simmilar battle style. A point could be made that for Sora only a few seconds pass between Roxas' disappearance and hearing Riku's post-battle pleas for him to wake up, but remember that Sora is dreaming. It was been outright stated that time doesn't flow normally within his dreams, so the entire battle against ''Anti Black Coat'' could easily have taken place in those "few seconds" between Roxas's disappearance and Riku's pleadings. ''Anti Black Coat'' being Vanitas is likely, due to all the simmilarities and Vanitas being pure darkness at the core (Though, should this theory be true, it is likely that Roxas' friendships with Axel, Xion and the virtual Twilight Gang gained him a bit of Light), so it would make sense that he'd manifest as a Dream Eater within Sora's dreamworld. After all, Riku, too, manifested as a Dream Eater, albeit as a Spirit-Type, rather than a Nightmare. It would make sense that Roxas, sensing Riku trying to interfere, "beamed out", in order to stall for time while Sora succumbs to his BSOD. ''Anti Black Coat'' being slain by Riku means nothing. He might simply have disintegrated to return to the depths of Sora's subconcious... Where Riku later finds Roxas, alongside Ven and Xion.

*** I'll just put the original names with the the Organization Names.

* '''{{spoiler|Terra}}:''' It's not confirmed, but {{spoiler|Master Xehanort mentioned how one of the missing three protectors of light was on his side, which would hint at Terra(nort) being a prospective member.}}

* '''Luxord:''' He is Nomura's favorite member, So he maybe saving him for this, and it help that he was in The World That Never Was too along with Xigbar and Saïx.

Here's a biggie, and something no one would see coming...

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