Knights of the Old Republic (video game)/Characters: Difference between revisions

* [[Always Save the Girl]]: Even after the reveal of the central plot twist confirms a lot of his suspicions about you, he still throws himself between you and the big bad on the Leviathan, in full knowledge of how that's likely to turn out. {{spoiler|If you play Dark Side and Female, he will show up in the final stage and make a last-ditch attempt to redeem you. All of the possible responses involve his death - unless you mod your game to include the [[Kill'Em All]] ending.}}

* [[Anguished Declaration of Love]]: After [[The Reveal]], Carth's [[Why Can't I Hate You?]] speech to the female [[Player Character]] turns into one of these. If you take the light side option in the [[Last Second Karma Choice]] before the final battle he reaffirms his feelings for you, but this time it's ''much'' less anguished.

* [[Badass Normal]] (or [[Badass Abnormal]] - see [[Gut Feeling]])

* [[Guns Akimbo|Blasters Akimbo]]

* [[Crutch Character]]: He starts at level four, which helps to mitigate the [[Luck-Based Mission|Luck Based Combat]] of a d20 combat system at low levels.

{{quote|''"Oh, ouch! I think you hurt my man-feelings with that one."'' }}

* [[Demoted to Extra]]: In the first game, he is one of the main members of the group and the first to join. In the second, he is a secondary character who is only seen during cutscenes and doesn't meet the Exile (except during his last appearance).

* [[Mr. Fanservice]]

* [[My Greatest Failure]]: Blames himself for the bombarding of his homeworld, because he couldn't imagine that his mentor would betray the Republic.

* [[Perma-Stubble]]

* [[Properly Paranoid]]: Doesn't trust a soul after his mentor betrayed him, and he's quite vocal in his initial suspicion of you, then the way the Jedi have put an overage Padawan (you) and a rather raw Knight (Bastila) in charge of, basically, taking down the Dark Lord of the Sith. {{spoiler|And his suspicion turns out to be quite justified when it's revealed that you're ''Revan,'' the previous Dark Lord}}.

* [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]: As a Republic Admiral in the second game.

* [[Revenge]]: He wants some on Saul Karath, his former mentor. It turns out rather hollow {{spoiler|but if you're a female Revan, your love fills the space left in his life.}}

* [[Undying Loyalty]]: To the Republic and later, to you (once he stops suspecting that you will betray him at ANY MOMENT).

* [[When You Coming Home, Dad?]]: His son Dustil complains that Carth, always away on tours of duty, was never around when it mattered most.

* [[The Artful Dodger]]

* [[Artistic Age]]: Due to engine limitations, Mission is only somewhat distinguishable from your average adult Twi'lek, making her young age only noticeable to the characters.

* {{spoiler|[[Doomed Hometown]]}}: {{spoiler|Malak orbitally bombards Taris into a wasteland.}}

* [[Humanoid Alien]]

* [[Just a Kid]]

* {{spoiler|[[Kill the Cutie]]: Either you or a force-persuaded Zaalbar kill her in the Dark Side route}}.

* [[Parental Abandonment]]: Her only known family is her worthless brother Griff.

* [[Plucky Girl]]

* [[Satisfied Street Rat]]

* [[Tagalong Kid]]

* [[Younger Than They Look]]

* [[Token Heroic Orc]]

* [[Token Evil Teammate]]: "Evil" is perhaps pushing it, but he's brutal compared to your other allies. Stick him in a party with a light-side character and there are a number of side conversations where he and the lightsiders bicker. He particularly seems to get on Bastila's nerves. He seems to appreciate Jolee's snarking in a few scenes, though.

=== HK-47 ===

* [[Deadpan Snarker]]: Statement: His very dialogue ''drips'' with snarkiness.

* [[Doom Magnet]]: Exposition: His various stories in the original KOTOR feature him, directly or indirectly, killing off his masters unintentionally.

* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]: Derision: Finds the HK-50's needless brutality and wanton slaughter unsettling, to say the least.

* [[Evil Is Funny]]

* [[Retired Badass]]

* [[Screw Politeness, I'm a Senior!]]

{{quote|'''Jolee:''' I did it all for the Wookiees.

'''Player:''' The Wookiees?

=== Zaalbar ===

* [[Ancestral Weapon]]: Bacca's Ceremonial Blade, a very good sword.

* [[The Big Guy]]

* [[I Owe You My Life]]: Swears a life-debt the player when (s)he rescues him from slavers.

* [[The Quiet One]]: He'll politely rebuff attempts to ask about his past.

=== Trask Ulgo ===

* [[Take Over the World|Take Over The Galaxy]]: Of course.

* [[The Starscream]]: And one who actually managed to pull it off, as per Sith standard operating procedure. {{spoiler|Not that it helped any.}}

* [[We Have Reserves]]

* [[Young Future Famous People]]: In the comic.

* [[A Day in the Limelight]]: Got a lot of pagetime in the KOTOR comics. Didn't exactly make him any more sympathetic, but definitely made him less of a caricature.

* [[Authority Equals Asskicking]]: Considerably tougher than any other Sith officer or trooper you have to face in combat.

* [[Dirty Coward]]: When Saul is in charge, he is very arrogant. When Malak's around, he's reduced to a stammering wimp of a man.

* [[The Dragon]]: To Darth Malak.

* [[Beauty Equals Goodness]]: Good looking a Jedi, but a yellow-eyed walking corpse as a Sith.

* [[Black Knight]]

* {{spoiler|[[Brainwashing for the Greater Good]]}}

* {{spoiler|[[Cipher Scything]]}} : Whenever he shows up in the comic.

** Little bit of this in the [[Revan|novel]] too.

* [[Depending on the Writer]]: [[BioWare]] and [[Obsidian Entertainment|Obsidian]] give him entirely different personalities and motivations. Revan's gender is another subject: [[BioWare]] and Obsidian seems to have been leaning towards Revan being female. Writer David Gaider said in a forum post that he thought Revan was a woman, and in KOTOR 2 Atton Rand refers to Revan as a "she" in an early conversation. Lucasfilm and subsequent expanded universe material however have decided Revan was canonically male.

* [[The Faceless]]: Is always seen wearing a face-concealing mask. Until a flashback late in the game where it is removed and you see that it is, in fact {{spoiler|yourself}}.

* [[Fallen Hero]]

* [[The Gadfly]]: {{spoiler|1=The opportunity for simple, good-natured verbal pranking and teasing in Knights of the Old Republic far surpasses that of any other Bioware RPG to date, making Revan this if certain dialogue paths are followed. This is especially prevalent in conversations with Bastila, though it's possible with most party members and even many NPCs.}}

* {{spoiler|[[I Am Who?]]}}

* [[Ironic Echo]]: "And in the end, as the darkness takes me, am I nothing..."

* [[Not So Different]]: Acknowledges this right before {{spoiler|he's [[Never Found the Body|apparently]] killed by the party in ''The Old Republic''}}.

* [[The Paragon Always Rebels]]

* [[Predecessor Villain]]: By the time of the first game he's been dealt with and replaced by Malak.

* [[Shrouded in Myth]]

** A bit more complicated than your average [[The Starscream|Starscream]]. Revan was brainwashed into serving the Emperor, either because he had already fallen to or had been at least tainted by the dark side due to the Sith teachings discovered on Malachor V. Revan and Malak, however, [[Fighting From the Inside|were too strong]] for the Emperor to control. They threw off his mental commands to serve him, but the command to conquer the galaxy was too powerful to excise entirely, so instead Revan and Malak decided to conquer the galaxy ''for themselves''. The price of throwing off the Sith Emperor's mind control meant they lost their memories of the True Sith lurking in the shadows. Malak forgot entirely, though Revan remembered the existence of the True Sith, if not the details. According to Kreia, this caused Revan to seek the conquer the Republic not purely out of self-aggrandizement, but to create a strong authoritarian state to fight the True Sith, or barring that, strengthen the Republic through conflict enough for it to stand up to the True Sith.

* [[The Ubermensch]]: Widely regarded as such, even by his enemies. [[Darth Bane]], 3,000 years later, regards him as his idol of what a Sith should be {{spoiler|despite Revan's redemption}}.

* [[Foil]]: {{spoiler|To Revan. Revan's presence is described as the heart of the Force, while the Exile's is its death.}}

* [[Four-Star Badass]]

* [[I Did What I Had to Do]]: Depending on how you play it, this can be her attitude towards the Wars, although she can still be [[The Atoner|regretful of the bloodshed]].

* [[Lady of War]]: The Exile is canonically female.

* [[Unwitting Pawn]]

* [[Vague Age]]

* [[Warrior Therapist]]: And boy, (s)he's good at it.

* [[Wizards Live Longer]]: Causing said [[Vague Age]].

* [[Action Girl]]

* [[Best Her to Bed Her]]: The sparring matches with her are some sort of Echani mating ritual which works like the trope.

** Although unlike the other characters you can pull to the darkside, she doesn't change her underwear no matter how far to the darkside she is.

* [[Boobs of Steel]]: It's only noticeable when she's wearing her default outfit (or [[Innocent Fanservice Girl|no outfit at all]]), but she ''is'' rather buxom and she's physically the strongest of the women, barring a female Exile.

* [[Hot Amazon]]

* [[Hot Chick with a Sword]]

** Well, that and their weird genetics where all same-sex siblings are identical, regardless of age.

* [[Innocent Fanservice Girl]]: She sees no issues sparring half naked, and staying half naked after it.

** {{spoiler|Sort of, she seems to [[Invoked Trope|invoke]] this, but characters more familiar with Echani culture (Atton and Kreia namely) hint that half naked sparring is less innocent than the Handmaiden makes it out to be. Of course as it's Atton and Kreia they might just be being assholes.}}

* [[Lady of War]]

* [[The Mole]]: Atris orders her to join the party to make sure the Exile isn't turning to the dark side.

* [[In Love with the Mark]]

* [[Lady of War]]

* [[Last of His Kind|Last Of Her Kind]]: While the race is still alive, the colony world she was part of was wiped entirely of life.

* [[Meaningful Name]]: "Visas Marr" can be interpreted as "vision impaired" (marred).

* [[Duel Boss]]: On Nar Shaddaa and Malachor V.

* [[Fantastic Racism]]: He believes that all non-Wookiees are slavers and should be enslaved as punishment. {{spoiler|He hates other Wookiees because his tribe exiled him for being nuts.}}

** Likely a reference to Chewbacca's death in the Expanded Universe.

* [[I Did What I Had to Do]]: {{spoiler|He slaughtered his clan to prevent them from being enslaved.}}

* {{spoiler|[[Duel Boss]]}}

* [[Evil Mentor]]: Or very morally gray, to be precise. Most of her influence choices are dark side oriented, and indeed her overall philosophy is closer to Sith than Jedi. {{spoiler|Oh, and don't forget her massive gambit to ''kill the Force''.}} But, to be fair, her overall lesson seems to be that you shouldn't be evil, but rather not too far to either extreme. In addition, she saw the {{spoiler|[[God Is Evil|Force as an uncaring entity]] that used people as pawns and then discarded them for the sake of "balance".}}

* [[Fantastic Racism]]: She hates machines, droids in particular. She also hates certain types of aliens such as Zabraks. It's likely that these attitudes are a result of the fact that she can't read the minds of aliens and droids, making their actions harder for her to predict and control.

* [[Handicapped Badass]]: She starts out blind and soon loses a hand. And still kicks ass. It helps that, as a neutral-aligned Consular, she is a Force powerhouse with dark or light side abilities.

** Interestingly, it works both ways. If you don't give the refugee the credits, she then berates you for not doing it, showing you a vision of the refugee becoming resentful and mugging another refugee for his possessions. Her point is about neither good nor evil - she's demonstrating that every action has a consequence, which in itself will trigger other consequences, and one can't predict what results these will have. Moral extremes and absolutes are for amateurs. ([[Author Filibuster|Avellone may have been letting his pen get away from him.]])

* [[Kick the Dog]]: In cut content, unlocking the message about Revan in T3 will result in a cutscene where Kreia zaps him with Force Lightning for the supposed betrayal.

* [[Authority Equals Asskicking]]

* [[Dual-Wielding]]

=== Master Lonna Vash ===

{{quote|'''Voiced by''': Louis Mellis}}

* [[Bald of Evil]]

* [[Body Horror]]: His body is literally in ''pieces'', every bone broken, every muscle torn, skin scorched or rotted or torn off, and he is ''still alive''. And he feels it. Only his will, fed by his pain, keeps him together.

* [[Card-Carrying Villain]]

{{quote|'''Voiced by''': Kristoffer Tabori}}

* [[Ape Shall Never Kill Ape]]: Same self-preservation protocols as HK-47.

* [[Arch Enemy]]: They ''hate'' HK-47, which is mutual. The HK-50s view HK-47 as obsolete, while HK-47 finds them to be cheap copycats.

* [[Blatant Lies]]: He's just a protocal droid. Who looks just like [[Blood Knight|HK-47]]? Has the same letter designation? Is among the few still left in a place that's overrun with dead humans? And denies that he killed them without any prompt to do so? ''Riiiiight''.

* [[Blood Knight]]: Just like their progenitor, but there's a key difference: HK-50 enjoys killing in general, whereas HK-47 enjoys ''how'' to kill. It's wanton slaughter versus finesse, and it's part of why they ''hate'' each other.

* [[Captain Obvious]]: A lot of the time with the post-Peragus examples, particularly with the trio in the Telos facility.

* [[Catch Phrase]]: "Facilitate communications and terminate hostilites."

* [[Cold-Blooded Torture]]: Used as a ''training exercise'', ''on one of their own'', no less.

* [[Consummate Liar]]: Whenever they're supposed to translate languages during negotiations, they intentionally misread it in order to lead to a more violent confrontation between entire races.

{{quote|'''HK-50''': "[[Blatant Lies|Panicked Statement]]: If by "problem," you mean that they seem prone to assassinate us, then yes, that *slight* problem was never corrected."}}

* [[Degraded Boss]]: One gives the party trouble on Peragus. Three give them trouble on Telos. By the endgame of Nar Shaddaa, however, T3-M4 is capable of taking out three of them singlehanded with little effort.

* [[Evil Counterpart]]: In essence, the HK-50 on Peragus is a [[Darker and Edgier]] version of HK-47, with a sociopathy that ''is not'' [[Played for Laughs]].

** Actually they are still very comedic, they're just more evil than HK-47 and happen to serve as antagonists.

* [[Hoist by His Own Petard]]: When the self-preservation protocol mentioned above was revealed to be mutual on their end, HK-47 simply decided to end his self-preservation programming. In order to kill them, he would need to stop being one of them.

* [[Kick the Son of a Bitch]]: Ordering the mining droids to kill [[Smug Snake|Coorta]], though his mockery of it was a bit much.

** Finally, there's three that appear in the cut content level of their secret base on Telos. One was more serious and assertive, another was a [[Captain Obvious]] comic relief type, and the third was more argumentative.

* [[Manipulative Bastard]]: Once on Peragus, HK-50 placed the Exile in a kolto tank and sedated her, while posing as a protocal droid to the miners. Division among the miners about what to do with the Exile (the Exchange had a large bounty out for Jedi) was manipulated by HK-50; fatal accidents, mining incidents and explosions all occured because of him, along with corrupting facility mining droids' programming, causing them to attack the miners; HK-50 copied the Peragus maintenance officers' voice, using it to issue orders to mining droids and access voice-locked computer consoles.

* [[Parrot Exposition]]: Both played straight and lampshaded during the player's first conversation with the HK-50 unit on Peragus.

{{quote|'''HK-50''': Objection: Master! To commit such an act would be in violation of the ethics programming most droids are believed to possess. I am afraid there is nothing that can be done.

'''Exile''': Believed to possess?

'''HK-50''': Irritated Statement: Master, if you insist on echoing everything I say, this already tedious conversation is in danger of becoming even longer. }}

* [[Smug Snake]]: This is a response to HK-47 asking a question about their capabilities, who lampshades it ''before he even says it''.

{{quote|'''HK-50''':"Mocking Query: Are you sure? Listing our superior capabilities will only serve to highlight your inadequacies."}}

=== General Vaklu ===

* [[Affably Evil]]: If you side with him, he is quite cordial and sincerely thanks you for your assistance, in contrast to the villains on other planets.

* [[Cowardly Boss]]: Briefly fought Talia in the throne room, before running up a ramp and letting his men attack the Exile. He couldn't even beat Talia in a straight-up fight.

{{quote|'''Tobin''':"General, we have found them again!"

'''Vaklu''':"Have we, Tobin, or is this just a preface to another one of your failures?" }}

* [[Defector From Decadence]]: Noticing how much Onderon had given to the Republic in both the Mandalorian Wars and the post-Jedi Civil War, and how little Onderon had received in return, Vaklu became dissatisfied with the now-weakened Republic, and openly announced his desires for Onderon to secede from the Republic.

* [[Karmic Death]]: If you choose to do so, Vaklu would be executed by a firing squad after the battle for the throne room.

* [[La Résistance]]: Led one during the Mandalorian occupation of Onderon.

* [[Villain Team-Up]]: With Nihilus' forces, during Vaklu and Tobin's coup.

* [[Xanatos Speed Chess]]: Although he already layed out a plan to initiate his coup, Vaklu still needed to draw support away from the palace to make it vulnerable to an assault, so he insighted his more radical supporters (like Ponlar) to enact riots near the palace gates. Meanwhile, Anda would offer credits to the player if you agreed to draw military strength and officers away from the Sky Ramp, the most direct route to the palace, thereby allowing Vaklu's forces to attack the Iziz Royal Palace with less resistance when fighting broke out.

=== Colonel Tobin ===

* [[Fate Worse Than Death]]: Played with. When he met Nihilus, Tobin had been physically ravaged by the dark side energy aboard the ship, likely a result of Nihilus's hunger, but retained enough humanity and self-awareness to converse with the Exile aboard Nihilus' flagship.

* [[General Failure]]: Vaklu outright states that Tobin isn't nearly as competent as the news media make him out to be.

* [[Smug Snake]]

* [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]: Was sincerely loyal and concerned over his homeworld's safety, so he and Vaklu allied themselves with [[Humanoid Abomination|Nihilus]], confident that his powers would be able to give them the chance to overthrow Queen Talia. After meeting with Nihilus face-to-face, and re-encountering the Exile on the Ravager, Tobin himself later admits that the alliance was a mistake.

A squid-headed Quarren crimelord in the Exchange, responsible for its business on Nar Shaddaa. Planned to kill Goto, leader of the Exchange, and sought an audience with him to do so, once Visquis attained a Jedi, of which Goto placed a bounty on.

* [[Smug Snake]]: Okay, he had no way of expecting Mira to screw up his operations, but he was rather over-reliant on his bounty hunters, failed the [[Evil Overlord List]], and didn't think that Goto, leader of the Exchange, knew of Visquis' plan to oust him.

* [[Villainous Breakdown]]: Gets reduced into a grovelling wreak once Goto turns his men against him.

* [[Villainous Lair]]: Underneath his lounge, he owns an underground citadel, well-hidden behind a maze of ventilation tunnels and guarded by his personal Ubese bounty hunters.

* [[Wretched Hive]]: Is the sub-leader of one, known as Nar Shaddaa.

=== Luxa ===

* [[Casual Kink]]: She just casually calls you beautiful, amongst other things. Some players probably just wanted to give up and let her take them captive.

* [[Dragon with an Agenda]]: Her real services lie with Goto, but she's only in it for the credits.

* [[Ms. Fanservice]]

* [[Stripperific]]: [http://lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-Old-Republic-II/Update%207/img-32.JPG Check it out].

* [[Zettai Ryouiki]]: She wears a thigh-highs + leotard variant.

A human lieutenant in the Telos Security Force, Grenn is a grizzled, well-respected veteran that held to a staunch adherence to the law, devoting his life to seeing it upheld on Citadel Station.

* [[Knight in Sour Armor]]: Holds a distaseful view of the Republic in general, but remains on good terms with Carth Onasi.

=== Kelborn ===

* [[Cultured Warrior]]: He states that Mandalorians are taught not to hate an opponent for beating them in battle, and he emplifies this to a notable degree.

* [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]

=== Bralor ===

* [[Cultured Warrior]]

* [[Proud Warrior Race Guy]]: Except ''much'' more respectful than the typical example.

* [[Reasonable Authority Figure]]

* [[Worthy Opponent]]: Considers the Jedi as this, the one that spared his life, along with Revan and the Exile, in particular - he was impressed by their combat prowess during the Mandalorian Wars.

Captain of the militia on Dantooine, noted for straightforward speech and direct action.

* [[Gray and Gray Morality]]

* [[The Lancer]]: To Terena Adare, administrator of Khoonda, and briefly to Dol Grenn.