Kyon: Big Damn Hero/WMG: Difference between revisions

 

== The authors of each chapter preface's [[Fictional Document]] are members of the (eventually expanded) SOS Brigade, and perhaps other characters. ==

** Cover seems more like something Kyon would write, could you imagine Haruhi hiding from anything?

** It's more of a process of elimination. Besides, Haruhi would have the most practice maintaining a masquerade. She's organizing a [[Tenchi Solution]], while keeping Kyon's [[Genre Savvy]] nose out of it, and for a short time, had to control her incredibly sensitive powers. Also, Current!Mikuru is going to go back to the future and age into her future self, so that should give her time to write her articles.

** But Kyon has helped maintain a masquerade as well: keeping Haruhi in the dark about her powers for close to a whole year. And keeping Kyon in the dark about the [[Tenchi Solution]] is hardly difficult... [[Oblivious to Love]], after all. That and the whole [[Yakuza]] thing ought to count for something in Kyon's favour. Also, how do the sensitivity of Haruhi's powers have anything to do with a masquerade?

** Alternatively, T.K and T.H are Kanae and Haruhi, respectively, after a [[Tenchi Solution]] and some serious [[Character Development]] - note that T.K. writes a book titled "Mirror, Mirror" which is all about how to ''stop running away'', while T.H.'s excerpts are about being an effective leader. The subjects of the books imply that T.K. was running away from her problems for a very long time and that T.H. was some sort of leader herself - which fits with Kanae-chan the slider and Haruhi the brigade-chief. And, of course, the title "Mirror, Mirror" practically ''screams'' slider - and apparently "Kanae" can mean "reflection". Naturally, [[Polyamory]] is frowned upon, so they can't introduce themselves as Tadamichi Haruhi and Kanae, hence the initials. This leaves "Author Unknown" of "Cover" open for Koizumi to write - which is a book on, among other things, how to ''pretend to be someone you're not'' - which Koizumi has openly admitted he's been doing for years.

*** Though T.H. could just as easily be Tsuruya, and Cover suggests someone a lot less polite than Koizumi.

*** Well, he ''did'' claim he was a bit of a shallow, petty, [[Manipulative Bastard]] before esper-hood, so "less polite-talking" might not be that much of a stretch. And who, besides Kyon, was the most actively involved in enforcing [[The Masquerade]]? Admittedly, Haruhi and Tsuruya have similar [[Attack! Attack! Attack!|full-power-right-from-the-start]] personalities and both are in leadership roles, so it's hard to tell which is which, but I'm leaning towards Haruhi for symmetry if nothing else. Also found this "Mirror, Mirror" quote - ''"At least, you'd have to find one really solid ally, and then make sure you're there for them enough so that they can be there for you too!''" - which ''really'' sounds like Kanae and her Sempai.

*** Also note the entry for [[Meaningful Name]]: one of possible's meanings for ''Kanae'' is ''reflection'', linking it with "Mirror, Mirror".

** If chapter 31's excerpt is anything to go by, Koizumi DID write ''Cover''. It says never to let people overestimate your abilities... when for the first part of the chapter he was convinced he could do nothing useful in a fight. When it was necessary.

** Alternatively, ''Cover'' is a collaboration between every member of the brigade. Enough perspectives on a masquerade to ensure the advice is reliable ''and'' it would also explain why there's no author known. There'd be six at the minimum.

* "Tending the Flame" seems to be Sasaki's work.

** "Practical Heroism and You: Awareness" "Roll With the Punches" "Clearing the Event Horizon: How Close is Too Close?" "The Last Resort: Violence and You" "Training and You: the Eternal Nightmare" all written by one Tadamichi Kyousuke. this Tadamichi Kyousuke sounds exactly like Kyon and lets face it, but now the fact that Kyon is Tadamichi Kyousuke has been practically confirmed with everything but the [[Word of God]]

*** An additional conclusion can be drawn. If we assume that the first string of numbers is the date Up where Asahina if from, the second string is down with the SOS-dan and that they represent the dates the files were recorded on both sides, then it appears that the files are recorded at two time roughly 34 years apart. One possibility is that 3419 is when Asahina first goes back becoming our Small!Asahina and 3453 is when she goes back a second time to interfere with herself, Kyon, and by extension, the rest of the SOS-dan becoming our Big!Asahina

** "Methods of Victory" by 'T.H.' Is about how to be a effective leader of a wide verity of people and goes at the subject with all the energy we normal see in Haruhi. There is also an implied level of experience in the words, indicating that the writer has been a leader of something literally or metaphorically big in the past

*** TK is Tadamichi Kyousuke or Kyon again because, let's face it, Kyon is at the center of a lot of things.

*** AR is Asakura Ryouko. The LP-TK:AR Datastream Segment entry uses a lot of Data entity phrases making the argument stronger.

 

== [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Tokyo]] will become involved in the story sometime in the future. ==

* Akasaka Sr. has retired for some time now. He and his daughter Miyuki weren't NPA officers at the same time.

** Is this mentioned in-fic or in Higurashi? He could've been promoted or reenlisted in the 15+ years since the end of the series. Regardless, if the Higurashi characters come back into the story, there's a good chance they'll do so because the one plot hook that Higurashi completely left hanging gets snagged on Kyon's shirt, Akasaka getting involved would just be a bonus.

 

== Kanae will become Dark!Kanae after learning that she might have killed hundreds of versions of herself. ==

 

This leads on to the following...

Specifically, she will become Trope-tan. This is why Trope-tan seemed vaguely familiar to Kyon.

* I thought that it was Mikuru who thought that it seemed familiar, not Kyon. It's mentioned in Gearing Up Arc V, if I'm not mistaken. And I would doubt that Nonoko would become Trope-tan... If anything, it could be just as likely that she could become somewhat akin to a [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]] style of [[Magical Girl]]...

 

This is based on the assumption of the WMG above this one (Nonoko becoming a [[Magical Girl]]), and that the events in [[Triangle Heart 3 ～sweet songs forever～]] (or at least the tropes page for it) would explain why the Tsuruya family isn't bothered that much, if at all, by the unusual.

* To elaborate, if this WMG was true, it would mean that, among other things, Shinobu may actually be a [[Japanese Vampire]]...

 

== Kyon has overestimated how useful a [[Stable Time Loop]] is at protecting him from the IDSE. ==

** Or they simply have greater access to information. Without the shield of ignorance, a larger proportion of time travel events become predetermined. Essentially, they can't trick out time because they're too smart to fool.

 

**** But the people who fix it will know about it, it should still appear to them to be there while they're trying to fix it, and fixing it would still be a high priority if anyone was trapped Down from it.

*** It's possible that correction already took place. In the 7th novel, just before Yuki restores the world after the events of the 4th book, she says "A large-scale time-quake will be happening shortly," and Asahina(big) tells Kyon "Compared with the one Nagato-san did just now, this one is even more complicated and significant". It seems that there is some support for this in Filler Arc Chapter 4, where Asahina(small) says that a time-quake "only happen when paradoxes are resolved or incurred". Also, if all this is true, then for repairing the temporal singularity was necessary that: Yuki losing control of herself and rewriting reality, destroying and ''restoring'' the IDSE, overcomplicated time-travels, creating a whole new parallel universe and Kyon [[Taking a Level In Badass]] ([[And the Fandom Rejoiced|yes, very necessary]]).

*** Furthermore, based on that Big Mikuru can span over 100 years and is not mentoring a corner, she is likely Span 4. This implies that she is very likely to either be maneuvering against Antedesertium, or playing the Greatest Game. ''Either'' of these has absolutely '''massive''' implications in terms of how important Kyon himself is - a Span Four's efforts being so thoroughly dedicated to a single leveller would mean that his Yet is vitally important to the Continuum's very existence. The fact that he gets more effort than the guy who invents time travel indicates his importance is nearly incalculable.

* Pretty much confirmed by now. As of chapter 53, Fujiwara said that he needed Kyon's help to ''"slipshank"'' then corrected it to "deliver a package." the only place I have ever heard the term slipshank use is in the Continuum. Then again Durandall could be reading this and trolling us, I wouldn't put it past him.

{{quote|Landing awkwardly in an alley in an unfamiliar city, her clothes torn and face smudged...}}

I see no reason why local Kanae would have her this kind of damage on her.

** It's from Chapter Three: It Goes to Eleven. As for one of Kanaes jumping into the original world of this particular Kanae, it would only HAVE to happen if there is a non-infinite number of worlds, fitting those prerequisites. If it is not the case, all of Kanaes would just "shift" one world forward, which, of course can be worse for some of them, though better for some, but in either case for her to just stop running would seem like a best solution.

 

== The singularity created by Kuyou shall become a person. ==

** Because ''Nagato'' is involved they'll be capable of reading and writing from birth. [[Talking with Signs]] ahoy!

 

They're [[Yakuza]], have access to [[Year Inside, Hour Outside]] 'technology' and someone who can learn anything, the Tsuruya Yamaguchi-gumi is traditional in style, and the boost to their reputation (especially Kyon's) for the pain tolerance and patience needed to get a ''traditional'' tattoo done in such a short amount of time would be ''huge''. Plus Mikuru's the only person in the [[Tenchi Solution]] who ''might'' not like it, depending on a change in values.

* Minor amendment: the tattoos would probably be limited to one place. Not as impressive as covering the ''entire'' body - but a complete design on, say, the entirety of the back would still be impressive. And why limited? Because any more would probably be enough to worry even Haruhi and irritate Kyon.

* ''Melancholy'' was published in 2003. If it's assumed that's when it's set, then K:BDH is set in 2004.

 

 

Not wanting Kyon to potentially turn out like his birth parents<ref>Remember, Yuuto and his wife don't know Keiichi is a lawyer</ref> and having become a lot more attached than she would ever have expected, she would have chosen not to let him find out the truth, coming across as a [[Jerkass]] [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|despite her good intentions]]. There might not even be a legal compulsion to do so.

* Strikes against this (otherwise terrific) theory:

** The fic is more-or-less confirmed as taking place in 2011 (from the dates on the [[Fictional Document|FictionalDocuments]]), and likewise the main Higurashi events are confirmed at June 1983). Rika's Big Damn Mistake appears to have been committed when she was about 12 (Haruhi's comment was "you weren't even as old as Matsuri-chan"), and can't have been later than 1985; Kyon, born in 1994, couldn't be Rika's while-a-teen child even if the pregnancy was later than the original messing-things-up seduction.

** Mion had a daughter who was older than Kyon and who eloped when Kyon was in junior high. Hard to imagine her either having a child by someone other than Keiichi or not offering to take care of Keiichi and Rika's child if Rika could not.

* This might explain why Kyon's mother is so very insistent that they recognize and celebrate Kyon's birthday at the beginning of the school year, NOT the day he was actually born- if there's some agreement that he only be told the actual circumstances of his date when his birthday coincides with Watanagashi, she can say, "You/we can't or won't tell Kyon this year, we don't consider this his birthday so it doesn't count as coinciding with Watanagashi." She doesn't want Kyon going to Hinamizawa because they don't care when they count his birthday from, only what his birthday actually is.

 

== Kyon is going to spend a chapter as a girl. ==

We're going to need a non plot-relevant chapter sooner or later, after all. And Kyon ''does'' keep telling Yuki to use her own judgement with Haruhi's requests... she and Haruhi could decide to play a joke on him.

** Then again, we might get a [[Double Subversion]] of said [[First Law of Gender Bending/Playing With|First Law of Gender Bending]] and have Kyon semi-regularly get into situations where he gets temporarily genderflipped involuntarily, needs a ''physically tangible'' genderflipped disguise, ''or'' just because '''Haruhi''' wants to dress "Kyonko" up... or "play" with her.

** If that happens, wouldn't that make Kyon the K:BDH equivalent of [[Ranma ½]]

 

== Asakura and Kuyou are the ''author'' of the title quote for Storm Begins Chapter 4. ==

* Already at least half-Jossed, and will likely be fully Jossed in the future. Durandall posted a correction, saying the letters should have been 'LP-TK:AR', signifiying that it's Kanae, not Kuyou. Additionally, Kuyou has become attached to Kyon in a similar manner to Achakura, but is still her own separate self.

** I'm pretty sure that TK is Tadamichi Kyousuke (the author of "Practical Heroism and You" and "Roll with the Punches"), not Michikyuu Kanae. Combined with the theory that Tadamichi Kyousuke is Kyon, this makes more sense than it being Kanae.

Taking Yuki not as an abnormal element, but as a standard sample it. It's agenda is [[I Just Want to Have Friends]]! However it couldn't talk to the MSQCE and all other beings died after only a short time. Asakura wanted to kill Kyon to make Haruhi revive him, thus giving the entity a clue on how to end and reverse Death. They really liked the Endless Eight, because it halted the degradation. After ''Disappearance'' in canon, Kyon told Yuki to tell her boss that if anything happened to her, he'd tell Haruhi he was John Smith, and the two of them would move Heaven and Earth to get Yuki back. Chronologically, that's the first thing that happened in the 'fic. Now, Haruhi is generating new data in a controlled manner, exactly as the Entity always wanted. Furthermore, {{spoiler|Achakura}} became fully convinced she'd been set up to be captured by the Brigade mere hours before Haruhi and Yuki helped her {{spoiler|successfully communicate with a Sky Canopy Domain interface}}, something else the Entity hadn't managed yet but was interested in accomplishing. Now they are slowly building Haruhi's and Yuki's powers in order to eventually being able to just ASK them to turn everybody immortal.

Also they have been feeding the NPA info on the Sumioshi Rengo. They aren't working against but for the SOS Brigade.

 

== Timetravel shenanigans will lead to a trip to ~1000 years previous. ==

...because they need Haruhi unleashed, and Kyon powered-up, to defeat the Combine.

 

 

* So essentially, it's the IDSE vs. The Combine, in a metaphorical chess game of sorts.

 

 

== The reason Kyon lost his smile wasn't just because Sasaki crushed his feelings by deconstructing love... ==

* Scarily possible as the cause, although given Nonoko's track record and the number of times she refers to Haruhi 'fixing' Kyon it seems likely that it was actually Haruhi's powers that undid the damage.

 

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