Kyon: Big Damn Hero/WMG: Difference between revisions

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*** Could also be a [[Red Herring]].

== [[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni|Hanyuu]] will be granted the ability to change between material and ghost/data at will. ==

== [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Hanyuu]] will be granted the ability to change between material and ghost/data at will. ==

Kyon already aknowledged she lives a lonely existence, with Rika as her only link to the material world before meeting Yuki. He'll ask Haruhi when the SOS Brigade goes to Hinamizawa for the Watanagashi festival/Kyon's birthday. (Haruhi may decide it on her own if she is told Hanyuu's story)

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He is part of the [[Yakuza]], so a tattoo (though probably not one created over the course of years... unless [[Year Inside, Hour Outside]] is used) isn't that far-fetched. Given what seems to happen to anything he gains in this fic, it being given some sort of power isn't that unexpected. Possibly tied into the [[Healing Factor]] idea mentioned above?

== [[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni|Tokyo]] will become involved in the story sometime in the future. ==

== [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Tokyo]] will become involved in the story sometime in the future. ==

I don't know about the rest of you but the Higurashi arc seemed like one giant [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]] to me -- though it was a pleasant one to be certain -- whose only apparent purpose was to get the idea of the [[Tenchi Solution]] into Haruhi's head, something that could've been done without a crossover. But I doubt that's all there is to it; I think this is a Chekhov's Crossover. Keiichi and the gang are going to become involved again at some point in the future, probably because Miyuki's investigation is going to bear fruit, and Haruhi's powers are going to catch the attention of someone from Tokyo ''and'' a veteran officer in her department... Akasaka.

* Akasaka Sr. has retired for some time now. He and his daughter Miyuki weren't NPA officers at the same time.

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== Evil!Kanae is the future [[Fusion Dance|gestalt]] [[Mental Fusion|amalgamation]] of every alternate version of Kanae that was/will be "overwritten" by her sliding. ==

... And she seeks revenge on the good Kanae for the [[Mind Rape]] that each of her "precursors" had been subjected to as she "overwrote" them. Perhaps she's deliberately seeking a [[Time Crash|Spacetime Crash]] to end her constant suffering of [[Bad Dreams]], [[I'm Having Soul Pains]], etc. caused by the combined [[Mind Rape]] experiences... assuming that her current existence isn't '''constant [[Mind Rape]]''' in and of itself.

* I had an epiphany a few moments ago and I came to this exact conclusion (Well, the part about Evil!Kanae being made up of all the overwritten Kanaes. the rest... not sure). The entire Kyon: Big Damn Hero fanfiction has, at least, dozens of parallels and references to [[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni]] (Read the very first [[Fictional Document]] in the [[In Medias Res]] prologue, it makes a reference to the [[Hate Plague]] in Higurashi right off the bat). In Higurashi, there is a lot of speculation on who exactly Bernkastel is and how she is related to Rika Furude. The popular theory is that Bernkastel is made up of all of the Rikas who have died and overwritten by the Rika traveling world to world with Hanyuu. Bernkastel, who was made from all the overwritten Rikas also traveled the worlds, making changes to those worlds. If [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ~~Ni (Visual Novel)~~|Higurashi!Bernkastel]] and [[Umineko no Naku Koro ~~Ni (Visual Novel)~~|Umineko!Bernkastel]] are the same, Then Evil!Kanae being... Well, [[Department of Redundancy Department|evil]] would also be explained.

* I had an epiphany a few moments ago and I came to this exact conclusion (Well, the part about Evil!Kanae being made up of all the overwritten Kanaes. the rest... not sure). The entire Kyon: Big Damn Hero fanfiction has, at least, dozens of parallels and references to [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]] (Read the very first [[Fictional Document]] in the [[In Medias Res]] prologue, it makes a reference to the [[Hate Plague]] in Higurashi right off the bat). In Higurashi, there is a lot of speculation on who exactly Bernkastel is and how she is related to Rika Furude. The popular theory is that Bernkastel is made up of all of the Rikas who have died and overwritten by the Rika traveling world to world with Hanyuu. Bernkastel, who was made from all the overwritten Rikas also traveled the worlds, making changes to those worlds. If [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Higurashi!Bernkastel]] and [[Umineko no Naku Koro ni|Umineko!Bernkastel]] are the same, Then Evil!Kanae being... Well, [[Department of Redundancy Department|evil]] would also be explained.

== Fujiwara and Mikuru are siblings or otherwise related. ==

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== The Haruhi substitute in this universe's [[Lucky Star]] is [[Trope-tan]]. ==

[[Lucky Star]] makes frequent references to [[~~Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|~~Haruhi Suzumiya]]. In the world of Kyon: Big Damn Hero, [[Lucky Star]] is an anime the characters are familiar with. Now, we can't have the K:BDH version of [[Lucky Star]] making references to [[~~Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|~~Haruhi Suzumiya]] because then both universes would explode in pretty recursions, so maybe K:BDH's verison of [[Lucky Star]] references [[Trope-tan]] instead of [[~~Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|~~Haruhi Suzumiya]].

[[Lucky Star]] makes frequent references to [[Haruhi Suzumiya]]. In the world of Kyon: Big Damn Hero, [[Lucky Star]] is an anime the characters are familiar with. Now, we can't have the K:BDH version of [[Lucky Star]] making references to [[Haruhi Suzumiya]] because then both universes would explode in pretty recursions, so maybe K:BDH's verison of [[Lucky Star]] references [[Trope-tan]] instead of [[Haruhi Suzumiya]].

== Kanae's previous few universes ''also'' had [[Lucky Star]] and she watched it. ==

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** Add to that [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha]]'s high profile on here due to its [[Troperiffic]] nature, it does seem more likely.

== Shinobu, the Tsuruya family maid, is in fact the same [http://nanoha.wikia.com/wiki/Shinobu_Tsukimura Shinobu] who is the [[Victorious Childhood Friend|girlfriend]] of Kyouya Takamachi (who is the hero of [[Triangle Heart 3]], and also the older brother of [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha Takamachi]]...). ==

== Shinobu, the Tsuruya family maid, is in fact the same [http://nanoha.wikia.com/wiki/Shinobu_Tsukimura Shinobu] who is the [[Victorious Childhood Friend|girlfriend]] of Kyouya Takamachi (who is the hero of [[Triangle Heart 3 ～sweet songs forever～]], and also the older brother of [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha Takamachi]]...). ==

This is based on the assumption of the WMG above this one (Nonoko becoming a [[Magical Girl]]), and that the events in [[Triangle Heart 3]] (or at least the tropes page for it) would explain why the Tsuruya family isn't bothered that much, if at all, by the unusual.

This is based on the assumption of the WMG above this one (Nonoko becoming a [[Magical Girl]]), and that the events in [[Triangle Heart 3 ～sweet songs forever～]] (or at least the tropes page for it) would explain why the Tsuruya family isn't bothered that much, if at all, by the unusual.

* To elaborate, if this WMG was true, it would mean that, among other things, Shinobu may actually be a [[Japanese Vampire]]...

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[[Voice of the Legion|We've been]] [[Medium Awareness|expecting]] [[Genre Savvy|you.]]

* [[Completely Missing the Point|But didn't we already]] [[No Fourth Wall|know he's been watching?]]

** But who really is he? [[Team Fortress 2 ~~(Video Game)~~|He could be any one of us! He could be on this very page! He could be you! He could be me!]]

** But who really is he? [[Team Fortress 2|He could be any one of us! He could be on this very page! He could be you! He could be me!]]

** He could be any of us... He could be all of us... And who's to say that's Durandall is even a he, anyway? Or even... a human...

*** [[Completely Missing the Point|Himself, on his own page.]]

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And he's chasing the other Kanae to try and get her mind back, and by extension every other Kanae's. Or just revenge, if that's all that's possible.

== Wataru is Kanae's half-sister and [[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni|Takano Miyo's]] son. ==

== Wataru is Kanae's half-sister and [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Takano Miyo's]] son. ==

Specifically, from the world shown very, ''very'' briefly at the end of Kai. As a result there's exactly ''one'' Wataru. This is why Kanae can never remember having any siblings. She's only had a brother in one world of hundreds that she probably didn't spend long in.

* One correlation of this is that, aside from the possibility of the Evil!Kuyou splitting into hundreds, there are exactly three sliders.

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** Sayuri will get involved in the [[Tenchi Solution]]. [[Les Yay|Though not necessarily with Kyon]]...

* As a result of their 'parentage' and the items involved in their creation, they will be a [[Cute Mute]].

** Because ''Nagato'' is involved they'll be capable of reading and writing from birth. [[Talking ~~With~~ Signs]] ahoy!

** Because ''Nagato'' is involved they'll be capable of reading and writing from birth. [[Talking with Signs]] ahoy!

== Kyon and Tsuruya will end up as [[Tattooed Crook|Tattooed Crooks]]. ==

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Now, to explain: Rika, at 15 and as an orphan, would have been in no position to care for a child. If Kyon's mother's age is placed between hers and Keiichi's, that makes her 16-20<ref>probably an adult</ref> when Kyon was born<ref>June 1987</ref>. Given how she doesn't seem to mind controlling Kyon's romantic future and arranging a marriage at sixteen, it seems entirely possible that her marriage with Yuuto is both arranged ''and'' happy, a much better environment for raising a child in than the... mess the Hinamizawa cast were in. The agreement would have been that when he's old enough to understand, he'd be told the truth ''when his birthday and Watanagashi are the same day'', his 17th birthday<ref>maybe not ''just'' for symbolic reasons</ref>. Kyon's mother would have agreed at first but - unlike her husband - she ''noticed'' the strange arrangement ''and'' the [[Yakuza]] thing, which, combined with conceiving a child but handing it off and later the only ''correct'' marriage, led to her estrangement<ref>She didn't even know that he had any qualifications. That's a pretty big gap in contact, not to mention living on the other side of the country</ref>.

Not wanting Kyon to potentially turn out like his birth parents<ref>Remember, Yuuto and his wife don't know Keiichi is a lawyer</ref> and having become a lot more attached than she would ever have expected, she would have chosen not to let him find out the truth, coming across as a [[Jerkass]] [[Jerk ~~With~~ a Heart of Gold|despite her good intentions]]. There might not even be a legal compulsion to do so.

Not wanting Kyon to potentially turn out like his birth parents<ref>Remember, Yuuto and his wife don't know Keiichi is a lawyer</ref> and having become a lot more attached than she would ever have expected, she would have chosen not to let him find out the truth, coming across as a [[Jerkass]] [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|despite her good intentions]]. There might not even be a legal compulsion to do so.

* Strikes against this (otherwise terrific) theory:

** The fic is more-or-less confirmed as taking place in 2011 (from the dates on the [[Fictional Document|FictionalDocuments]]), and likewise the main Higurashi events are confirmed at June 1983). Rika's Big Damn Mistake appears to have been committed when she was about 12 (Haruhi's comment was "you weren't even as old as Matsuri-chan"), and can't have been later than 1985; Kyon, born in 1994, couldn't be Rika's while-a-teen child even if the pregnancy was later than the original messing-things-up seduction.

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As it was the only thing explicitly mentioned that alternate reality Kyons knew, aside from time travelers and aliens. All others were just mentioned together as "stranger things".

May be even a western-style demon, in the guise of [[Token Minority|a European]]

* Alternately, said demon could be an overlord from the [[Disgaea]] series who has discovered that he/she can't go and try to conquer the K:BDH verse if the Combine manage to do so first...

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* This would also explain why her age is classified.

== K:BDH takes place in a [[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni|Minagoroshi-hen fragment, not a Matsuribayashi-hen fragment]]. ==

== K:BDH takes place in a [[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Minagoroshi-hen fragment, not a Matsuribayashi-hen fragment]]. ==

What Kyon's father said in chapter 50 got me thinking about this:

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Although everyone dies in Minagoroshi, it wouldn't be that strange if one of the Minagoroshi-hen fragments something different happened. After all, some similar fragments have had variations and different events in them before, like in Tsumihoroboshi-hen. In all of the worlds similar to Tsumihoroboshi-hen, Rena went insane from Hinamizawa Syndrome and blew up the school. However, in the Tsumihoroboshi-hen that we are shown, Keiichi manages to create a miracle and stop Rena from blowing up the school. That was the first time Rika ever saw anyone beat fate, albeit temporarily. It's then entirely possible that in this fanfic something different happened in the Minagoroshi-hen fragment.

Another thing that makes me think that this is Minagoroshi is that in Kyon: Big Damn Hero, Hanyuu cannot become corporeal on her own. It was only in Matsuribayashi that she could be seen and heard by everyone else. Also, when Nagato offered to make Hanyuu corporeal, Rika worried if Hanyuu would be harmed in the process; which implies that Hanyuu never had a physical form when everyone was fighting fate.<ref>Would this be easier to read/more fun to discuss if [[Umineko no Naku Koro Ni|we used blue and red truths?]]</ref>

Another thing that makes me think that this is Minagoroshi is that in Kyon: Big Damn Hero, Hanyuu cannot become corporeal on her own. It was only in Matsuribayashi that she could be seen and heard by everyone else. Also, when Nagato offered to make Hanyuu corporeal, Rika worried if Hanyuu would be harmed in the process; which implies that Hanyuu never had a physical form when everyone was fighting fate.<ref>Would this be easier to read/more fun to discuss if [[Umineko no Naku Koro ni|we used blue and red truths?]]</ref>

* Maybe a [[Heroic Bystander]] in a [[Badass Longcoat|greatcoat]] from [[Time Travel|another time]] showed up just after the reveal of the [[Big Bad]] and defeated the Yamainu before any of them could kill anyone.

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== Haruhi is Alicorn ==

She's the author of [[~~Luminosity (Fanfic)|~~Luminosity]] and [[~~Elcenia (Literature)|~~Elcenia]], if you're wondering.

She's the author of [[Luminosity]] and [[Elcenia]], if you're wondering.

Haruhi modified herself to be polyamorous. [http://lesswrong.com/lw/79x/polyhacking/ Where have I seen that before?]

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== Kyon is going to name his weapons [[wikipedia:Altair|Altair]] and [[wikipedia:Vega|Vega]]. ==

These are the stars linked to the legend of [[Tanabata]] (Vega and Altair represent Orihime and Hikoboshi respectively). This was mentioned in detail at the start of the story ''Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody'' of the [[Canon|light novels]].<br />As bonus, both names are guns' names in the [[~~Playstation~~ ~~Two~~|PS2]]'s game [[~~Final Fantasy XII (Video Game)|~~Final Fantasy XII]]. The game was released during 2006 (at the end of the chapter thirty one, the date in-story appears to be May 21, 2011) and Kyon owns the game system according to the story, so it's not unthinkable for him to know about this.

These are the stars linked to the legend of [[Tanabata]] (Vega and Altair represent Orihime and Hikoboshi respectively). This was mentioned in detail at the start of the story ''Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody'' of the [[Canon|light novels]].<br />As bonus, both names are guns' names in the [[Play Station 2|PS2]]'s game [[Final Fantasy XII]]. The game was released during 2006 (at the end of the chapter thirty one, the date in-story appears to be May 21, 2011) and Kyon owns the game system according to the story, so it's not unthinkable for him to know about this.

* Confirmed in Open Battle Arc, Chapter 5.