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** The trophies also spoiled an awful lot from ''[[Twilight Princess]]'', namely: {{spoiler|[[Hijacked by Ganon|Ganondorf was the villain the whole time]], and Midna was the Twilight Princess.}} If you truly want to avoid spoilers for almost every game that Nintendo has made, you're better off avoiding the trophies altogether if possible.
** The trophies also spoiled an awful lot from ''[[Twilight Princess]]'', namely: {{spoiler|[[Hijacked by Ganon|Ganondorf was the villain the whole time]], and Midna was the Twilight Princess.}} If you truly want to avoid spoilers for almost every game that Nintendo has made, you're better off avoiding the trophies altogether if possible.
* ''[[Castlevania]] [[Dawn of Sorrow]]'' games had no problems mentioning the Big Reveal at the end of its prequel, ''[[Aria of Sorrow]]''' -- that protagonist Soma Cruz is the [[Reincarnation]] of Dracula. Heck, it says it outright on the back of the box.
* ''[[Castlevania]] [[Dawn of Sorrow]]'' games had no problems mentioning the Big Reveal at the end of its prequel, ''[[Aria of Sorrow]]''' -- that protagonist Soma Cruz is the [[Reincarnation]] of Dracula. Heck, it says it outright on the back of the box.
* Casual screenshots of ''[[Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories]]'' will spoil an event that happens to someone in ''[[Disgaea Hour of Darkness]]''....{{spoiler|Namely, that Laharl isn't a ''complete'' asshole, and airheaded [[Love Freak]] ultra-pure Angel trainee Flonne has fallen from grace and become an airheaded love free ultra-pure Devil trainee.}} And don't even try playing it if you mind spoilers, because the intro movie reveals the same thing. Also, {{spoiler|Prinny Kurtis is part of the storyline.}}
* Casual screenshots of ''[[Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories]]'' will spoil an event that happens to someone in ''[[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness]]''....{{spoiler|Namely, that Laharl isn't a ''complete'' asshole, and airheaded [[Love Freak]] ultra-pure Angel trainee Flonne has fallen from grace and become an airheaded love free ultra-pure Devil trainee.}} And don't even try playing it if you mind spoilers, because the intro movie reveals the same thing. Also, {{spoiler|Prinny Kurtis is part of the storyline.}}
** The opening of ''[[Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice]]'' spoils this too. So does merely shopping at the Rosenqueen store in real life. In fact, it's hardly worth tagging the spoiler anymore.
** The opening of ''[[Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice]]'' spoils this too. So does merely shopping at the Rosenqueen store in real life. In fact, it's hardly worth tagging the spoiler anymore.
** When playing La Pucelle, a spiritual predecessor to Disgaea, that there is a pair of secret scenes where Priere {{spoiler|becomes a Demon Lord and Demon Overlord}} is technically a spoiler. However, with La Pucelle: Ragnarok, the remake of La Pucelle, {{spoiler|Priere's demon form}} is right on the cover. Of course, it's now a full route, not merely an ending. And she has appeared in four later NIS games as a "secret" character, and another as DLC, in full {{spoiler|demonic glory}} no less, it's not much of a secret to anyone with an interest in their games.
** When playing La Pucelle, a spiritual predecessor to Disgaea, that there is a pair of secret scenes where Priere {{spoiler|becomes a Demon Lord and Demon Overlord}} is technically a spoiler. However, with La Pucelle: Ragnarok, the remake of La Pucelle, {{spoiler|Priere's demon form}} is right on the cover. Of course, it's now a full route, not merely an ending. And she has appeared in four later NIS games as a "secret" character, and another as DLC, in full {{spoiler|demonic glory}} no less, it's not much of a secret to anyone with an interest in their games.
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** Almost every sequel after the original game repeatedly mentions that Solid Snake and Liquid Snake are clones of Big Boss.
** Almost every sequel after the original game repeatedly mentions that Solid Snake and Liquid Snake are clones of Big Boss.
** In ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'', despite the promotional material and game box hiding the twist, the manual has to tell the player (by necessity) that Snake {{spoiler|isn't the main character - Raiden is}}. The game also runs into [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"]] territory - it's taught in game design courses and referred to by almost everyone who plays the game as being fourth-wall breaking, insane and incomprehensible (thereby spoiling most of the shock value to new players).
** In ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty]]'', despite the promotional material and game box hiding the twist, the manual has to tell the player (by necessity) that Snake {{spoiler|isn't the main character - Raiden is}}. The game also runs into [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"]] territory - it's taught in game design courses and referred to by almost everyone who plays the game as being fourth-wall breaking, insane and incomprehensible (thereby spoiling most of the shock value to new players).
** The main selling point of ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater]]'' is that it chronicles Big Boss' [[Start of Darkness]]. It was originally meant to be a reveal, but now doesn't need to be spoiler-marked.
** The main selling point of ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'' is that it chronicles Big Boss' [[Start of Darkness]]. It was originally meant to be a reveal, but now doesn't need to be spoiler-marked.
*** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf6hRFXlQco&feature=fvsr trailer] for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] remake of ''MGS3'' shows off the beginning of the Snake/Boss battle from the end of the game, spoiling her end-of-Act 1 defection to the Soviet Union.
*** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf6hRFXlQco&feature=fvsr trailer] for the [[Nintendo 3DS]] remake of ''MGS3'' shows off the beginning of the Snake/Boss battle from the end of the game, spoiling her end-of-Act 1 defection to the Soviet Union.
** ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]'' got this bad. Not only does Snake's role as the main character mean that the plot twist of ''MGS2'' is spoiled for anyone who hasn't played it, but {{spoiler|Meryl Silverburgh's}} appearance is evidence of the canonical ending of ''MGS1''. In addition, Snake's rapid aging in the game means that the whole plot twist of FOXDIE (and the nanomachines) in the original game is rendered pointless for anyone who's new to the series.
** ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots]]'' got this bad. Not only does Snake's role as the main character mean that the plot twist of ''MGS2'' is spoiled for anyone who hasn't played it, but {{spoiler|Meryl Silverburgh's}} appearance is evidence of the canonical ending of ''MGS1''. In addition, Snake's rapid aging in the game means that the whole plot twist of FOXDIE (and the nanomachines) in the original game is rendered pointless for anyone who's new to the series.
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*** ''10'' has the same achievement as well.
*** ''10'' has the same achievement as well.
** From ''[[Mega Man X]]'', you should know that someone's going to die in the first game, since the plot of the second game revolves around ''resurrecting him''.
** From ''[[Mega Man X]]'', you should know that someone's going to die in the first game, since the plot of the second game revolves around ''resurrecting him''.
** Also, how many games have explicitly stated that Zero {{spoiler|is Dr. Wily's masterpiece?}} Let's see, there's ''[[Tatsunokovs Capcom]]'', ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]] 2: [[Boss Game|The Power Fighters]]'', and ''[[Mega Man X]] 5'' [[Post Script Season|onward.]] Not so much of a secret now than how ''X4'' [[The Reveal|revealed]] it, huh?
** Also, how many games have explicitly stated that Zero {{spoiler|is Dr. Wily's masterpiece?}} Let's see, there's ''[[Tatsunoko vs. Capcom]]'', ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]] 2: [[Boss Game|The Power Fighters]]'', and ''[[Mega Man X]] 5'' [[Post Script Season|onward.]] Not so much of a secret now than how ''X4'' [[The Reveal|revealed]] it, huh?
*** Or, just ask any ''Mega Man'' fan if they're even aware of the fact.
*** Or, just ask any ''Mega Man'' fan if they're even aware of the fact.
*** Ironically, Zero's [[Mega Man Zero|own series]] ''never'' even alluded to this fact.<ref>There is, in fact, a minor allusion to it in the 4th game when Zero talks with Weil before the latter's final merge with Ragnarok Core. But it's very difficult to notice it unless one knew about the identity of Maverick Virus' original carrier and the identity of virus' creator. There's also one with the entirety of Omega's existence in the 3rd game, but likewise, it's difficult to notice anything other than Zero's age and power if one didn't know about the virus before.</ref>
*** Ironically, Zero's [[Mega Man Zero|own series]] ''never'' even alluded to this fact.<ref>There is, in fact, a minor allusion to it in the 4th game when Zero talks with Weil before the latter's final merge with Ragnarok Core. But it's very difficult to notice it unless one knew about the identity of Maverick Virus' original carrier and the identity of virus' creator. There's also one with the entirety of Omega's existence in the 3rd game, but likewise, it's difficult to notice anything other than Zero's age and power if one didn't know about the virus before.</ref>