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* First Revival Round (Yokoya version): When Yokoya started handing out those 70 million yen bribes, why didn't anyone think to betray him? Just take the money and vote for whoever they agreed to vote for in the first place? They could've at least done that during the second round of voting. Did Yokoya use the M-tickets as contracts? His bribes were in cash, though... One more thing, do the large wads of cash count as part of the prize money? If not, why not just team up with one other person. Exchange all 100 million in M-ticket money for 50 million in cash, all his votes, and all future votes in his possession (including the ones you give him by voting for him). That way, your partner will be in dead last, but have 20 million yen in cash as a profit. Assuming all of your partner's votes and yours put you in first place, you'll get the 100 million yen prize money. Give back the prize money to cover your M-ticket debt, setting your total prize money to zero (again, assuming Yokoya's cash doesn't count), and drop out without having to pay a cent. Then, pay back your initial 2nd round debt of 100 million yen using the combined cash you got from Yokoya and your partner. Both you and your partner are out of the liar game and made a 20 million yen profit each.
** Because even teaming up with another person doesn't guarantee you being the winner, considering that everybody else is voting for Yokoya. Also, at the point, there's a good chance that they didn't know they could transfer votes, since it doesn't seem to play a role until the end of Yokoya's second round, and everybody was surprised when it happened during Nao's second round. Also, this wouldn't work, because the winner doesn't get 100 million yen, but the winners split the 100 million yen evenly between themselves, and considering that Yokoya would have the other members in his pocket by then, at best you could get would be 50 million of the prize money, and this is discounting the fact that Yokoya would sell his extra votes and make new winners, decreasing your share of the prize money even further. Going by that, you wouldn't have won enough money to pay off both you and your partner's debt, since you'd have around (100+100+140+12.5)=362.5, but the debts would be (100+100+100)=300 for your partner (the debt for being the loser, the debt from the M-card, and the debt from the second round) and (100 + x)for you, the 100 being the debt for the first round and the x being the whatever free it costs to drop out of the second round (probably half of your winnings), leaving you with at least 400 in debt.
*** Yeah... the theory was based on the J-Drama, which apparently really gave 100 million to the winner as a prize. Still, according to [https://web.archive.org/web/20090218215415/http://www.onemanga.com/Liar_Game/28/21/ this] the debt for being the loser and the debt from the M-card are one and the same. That means 200 million is all that's needed for the loser. Also, this is a plan that's in response to Yokoya being revealed to have taken 10 votes from everyone. He offered to sell his excess votes; this would be enough to let everyone know that transferring votes is possible. Once the second round is over and it becomes common knowledge that you can transfer votes, the plan can be put into action. The loser half of the duo only requires 200 million to be left with no debt or profit. The winner half of the duo... yeah, this plan would've only been plausible in the J-drama.
* Why did Nao want to make everyone pass the Infection Game? It seems much better for her to try to eliminate them and win R4, and then use the winnings to pay off their debts. It has been made clear that getting people out of the game with no debt is the best possible outcome - this was central to the resolution of the first Revival Round, and is pretty much Nao's overall philosophy - so why the sudden shift to "Let's keep everyone in the game"?
** Because this is a preliminary round. Normally, she pays off the debts of the losers right away with the money she wins. But in this case, since it's a preliminary round, they have no idea what's going to happen next. For all they know, the losers are taken away immediately making it impossible for Nao to pay off their debts even if she wins Round 4 (since they're gone).