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Forgiving developers will sometimes provide an alternative means to reach what would otherwise be Lost Forever. However, reaching it with this second-chance method is usually much more time-consuming or difficult than if you had just gotten it the first time around. If a player knows such an item is coming, a common tactic is to [[Save Scumming|save immediately beforehand, and restore repeatedly from that save]] [[Trial and Error Gameplay|until they manage to get it]]. This is often true when getting the Lost Forever is [[Luck-Based Mission|based on luck]], such as when a [[Boss Battle|boss]] [[Randomly Drops]] a unique piece of equipment.
This is infamously present in [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]]'s or any other game with online connectivity, due to one-time events, irreplaceable quest reward items (such as consumables that become [[Too Awesome to Use]]) distributed from an online source. While you can simply restart an offline game for another shot at the content, online Lost Forevers really can be lost ''forever''. (When it comes to patch updates, however, players who still have the old items are usually allowed to keep them, and the items are often displayed as a badge of honor.)
Due to their tendency to induce great frustration, smart developers tend to avoid implementing these, and allow players to collect items or do [[sidequest]]s [[Take Your Time|at their leisure]], whenever and in any order they want. Sometimes, this can result in silly situations where the player is presented with the option of returning to a location where there would be no logical reason to return to, such as, say, the site of a nuclear explosion. But, really, it's the lesser of the two evils.
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=== [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPGs]] ===
* Many [[Free to Play]] [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]]s give exclusive items to participants in each of the game's beta stages [[Perpetual Beta|(pre-release beta stages, that is, usually Closed, Open and/or Invitation Only stages)]] to honor their participation and as a partial compensation for the necessity of wiping their hard-built characters before opening day. Those joining after the official release naturally can't ever obtain them unless the service provider distributes them for new channel or expansion betas.
* A ''[[Final Fantasy XI]]'' example: There are actually quite a few items you can only get once, and worse, they can't be sold or traded to other players, so you can save space on your character-that-can-do-anything. Most of these aren't exactly that good, but then you have examples like the Bibiki Seashell, a very decent tanking item... that once could be ''accidentally thrown'', before a patch fixed it.
** ''[[Final Fantasy XI]]'''s [[Game Master]]s will generally restore ''one'' item you accidentally lose. Needless to say, this ability is [[Too Awesome to Use]] for most people.
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** Another fun thing from the tutorial was a special item that the little girl Gwen gave you. It didn't do anything. Even if you finished the game, there was no use for it, as Gwen was never found, and it was taking up space in your inventory. After some 3 real-life years, the 3rd expansion came out, and Gwen was there. Anyone who had saved the item could now use it for a bonus quest/item. For everyone else: Make a new character.
** Then there're the lost riches of the duping scandal. In 2007, a bunch of players figured out how to manipulate a new mechanic in order to dupe items. Naturally, they started producing mass quantities of Armbraces of Truth (a high-end item that could be traded in to collector NPCs for rare items, which were commonly used as high-denomination currency. [[Arena Net]] shut them down, but not before they were able to buy pretty much everything they wanted. The community is still trying to figure out how many ultrarare, limited-edition minipets were lost when the dupers' accounts were deleted. (The wave of bot-related account bannings in 2010 probably didn't help either, judging by the wails of some of the banned).
*** Most [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]] service providers will conduct massive wipe-a-thons and server rollbacks when they confirm that a wave of duping has occurred. Items that were unique or virtually impossible to get before the dupes will naturally fall under this trope afterwards. Occasionally any in-game items that were used to trigger the duping will be removed outright rather than being fixed.
* [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]] ''[[Mabinogi (video game)|Mabinogi]]'' has many of these associated with limited-time events. Not really important, since the vast majority of these items are purely cosmetic, none of them are [[Game Breaker]]s or even particularly high-powered, and most of them [[Breakable Weapons|don't last very long anyway]].
** Some of the main story quests have the option to skip them. Doing so loses a few good items or titles forever, or eliminates the ability to convert from [[An Adventurer Is You|Paladin to Dark Knight]]. It also makes some of the later story quests more difficult; though they're still available.
** Special titles are available to players who "break the seal" on newly-released zones and dungeons by matching a particular set of conditions. Since each seal can only be broken once per server, they are unique, and unavailable to other players once the seal is broken. If the player character is deleted (by the player, or by the [[Game Master]]s for rules violations), the seal remains broken, and the title is lost forever.
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