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* '''Kaim''', [[The Hero]]; begins as [[The Stoic]], but gradually becomes more emotional as he recovers his memories.
* '''Seth''', [[The Lancer]]; Flirty [[Action Girl]] and former [[Pirate]].
* '''Jansen Friedh''', Uhran wizard, [[The Mole]] for all of about five minutes, [[Plucky Comic Relief]] by way of being a [[Handsome Lech]] and [[Chivalrous Pervert]]. Narrowly [[Rescued
* '''Ming''', the immortal Queen of Numara.
* '''General Kakanas''', leader of Numara's armed forces.
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Another gameplay feature of note is the "Thousand Years of Dreams" - as the game goes on, Kaim starts to recover his memory in the form of dreams. These dreams are displayed in the game as short stories. Read these at your peril. [[Tear Jerker|Tears]] ''[[Tear Jerker|will]]'' [[Tear Jerker|be jerked]]. The game can be played with dialog in both the original Japanese and in English, to satisfy both sides of the [[Subbing Versus Dubbing]] debate, and both are very high quality performances. The game was not much of a fan favorite in Japan due to the 360's unpopularity there, but enjoyed much greater success in the West. The opposite occurs with critics reception, scoring a 36/40 from Famitsu but mixed reaction from Western review sites.
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* [[Absolute Cleavage]]: Sarah and especially Ming.
* [[Action Girl]]: Seth
** More like {{spoiler|Action Mom.}}
* [[Apocalyptic Log]]: The spheres the group finds scattered through {{spoiler|Experimental Grand Staff}}, especially the entries detailing what happens to the security guards ordered to "test the prototype's interceptor skills throughout the facility" by {{spoiler|Professor K}}.
* [[Arbitrary Headcount Limit]], though a rather generous one by modern standards
* [[Auction]]: There's an auction house later on in the game where you can bid on items you've missed. Helpful if you're trying to get the Treasure Trove achievement.
* [[Authority Equals Asskicking]]: You will have ''two'' monarchs in your party by the end of the game.
* [[Award Bait Song]]: "What You Are".
* [[Back for
* [[Badass Boast]]: When Kaim remembers what Gongora did to him and his family, he vows that, even if Gongora can't die, that Kaim will fill his life with so much pain that he'll spend all of eternity wishing that he could.
* [[Badass Grandpa]]: Sed. Kaim is both badass and a grandfather (several times over, according to ''A Thousand Years of Dreams''), but his eternal youth makes him not an example of this trope.
* [[Bag of Sharing]]: Even when the party members are continents apart.
* [[Bare Your Midriff]]: Cooke.
* [[Blessed
** Inverted by the end of the game: when {{spoiler|the love of your life is also an immortal}}, immortality suddenly [[Cursed
* [[Bling of War]]: Tolten's diamond-studded gold armor.
* [[Bonus Boss]]: Lots. Persona, [[Shout
** The Immortal probably counts too, seeing as he is the [[That One Boss|toughest boss in the game.]]
* [[Bratty Half
* [[Break the Cutie]]: Poor Sarah.
* [[The Call Knows Where You Live]]: The basis of what {{spoiler|Gongora does to the other immortals.}}
* [[Can't Catch Up]]: Beyond a certain point, the mortal characters in the party will pale into insignificance in battle compared to the four Immortals.
* [[Character Level]]: Works the same way as most RPGs. EXP raises the level, AP helps the immortals to master skills.
* [[Chekhov's Gun]]: Wandering around in Numara's Ghost Town early in the game, you can see {{spoiler|one of the petrified monsters that Gongora used to hold the country hostage, which you'll have to fight much later on.}}
* [[Chivalrous Pervert]]: Jansen, and how!
* [[Competence Zone]]: A ''very'' broad one. Even without the immortals.
* [[Cool Old Guy]]: Kaim counts, despite not looking all that old. Sed fits this trope perfectly.
* [[Creative Sterility]]: Mixed with [[Mega Manning]]. Immortals learn new skills by copying them from mortal party members or from support accessories they've got equipped, but will never come up with new skills of their own. Mortals learn new skills on their own, by leveling up, but can't copy skills.
** [[Justified Trope]]: they already learned all those skills: as their amnesia fades away they start remembering their lost skills when they see their mortals compagnions learning then using them.
* [[Criminal Amnesiac]]: {{spoiler|Kaim and Seth are in this state when the game starts}}
* [[Cutscene Power to
** Justified, however, since in battles immortal characters come back to life after a few turns if their health bar drops to zero. Kaim could have been unconscious for a bit and woken up.
* [[Defrosting Ice Queen]]: Male version with Kaim; starts as [[The Stoic]] then begins to warm up once he {{spoiler|meets his grandchildren and reunites with his wife, Sarah.}}
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* [[Fate Worse Than Death]]: Since he couldn't kill his fellow immortals, {{spoiler|Gongora}} had to get ''creative''.
* [[Fetch Quest]]: One wonders who thought it would be a good idea to render a ''funeral'' as a tedious fetch quest followed immediately by a broken [[Mini Game]].
* [[The Fog of Ages]]: Kaim is a 1000 y/o amnesiac immortal, although his amnesia is really [[Laser-Guided Amnesia]].
** In the Thousand Years of Dreams, which happens before [[Laser-Guided Amnesia]], Kaim is shown to have an excellent memory. In one case, he hasn't visited a village for 80 years and when someone in the village calls his name, he searches through his memory of the last time he was there(80 years ago!) and concludes he definitely doesn't know the person calling him. {{spoiler|He knows the person, but can be forgiven because she was only 6 then, making her 86 when he returns. He remembers her after some prompting.}}
* [[Friend to All Children]]: Kaim, surprisingly. It's mentioned more than a few times in A Thousand Years of Dreams that Kaim has made friends with children during his travels, and he gets along very well with his grandchildren Mack and Cooke.
* [[Functional Magic]]: As standard for an RPG. Magic is also used in every day life, to create and power cars and weapons.
* [[Gameplay and Story Segregation]]: The immortal characters are still immortal in gameplay, in the sense that they revive after about two rounds if knocked out, but they ''can'' be knocked out and otherwise injured and if the entire active party is KO'd it's still [[Game Over]], even though Kaim and Seth withstood a catastrophe that obliterated two armies in the opening cutscene and weren't so much as singed. While one can suppose that the Game Over is [[Justified Trope|due to failure to complete the party's objectives]] rather than death, they're not always in situations where that should reasonably be the case, and there's no justification given for the divide between the immortals' [[Cutscene Power to
* [[General Ripper]]: General Kakanas.
* [[Grind Boots]]: Played with early in the game - at Grand Staff, Kaim and Seth slide neatly down a slope without missing a beat. Jansen, meanwhile, tries to do the same and ends up sprawling at the bottom of the slope.
* [[Handsome Lech]]: Apparently Jansen can turn this on and off at will. When it's "off," he's a talkative comic relief. When it's ''on'', watch out, ladies.
* [[Harmless Freezing]]: Horrifyingly averted when {{spoiler|Gohtza and all it's inhabitants are killed in a freezing holocaust.}}
* [[Hermetic Magic]]: When casting spells, characters will stand still with their eyes closed, concentrating until it's their turn. Some spells take two turns to cast, depending on the spell and the person casting it.
* [[Hidden Depths]]: Jansen proves to be much more than the annoying [[Talkative Loon]] he first appears to be, especially after he meets Ming.
* [[The High Queen]]: Ming.
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* [[Hot Shounen Mom]] - Both Seth and Sarah
* [[I Love Nuclear Power]] - Magic, for the most part, is treated as an energy source that allows many complex machines (like cars) to be built, but, well, being magic, it's capable of so much more. Your first major quest is going to a giant magic reactor, Grand Staff, which is leaking magical energy and mutating the local wildlife into monsters.
* [[Immortality]]: Kaim, Seth, Sarah, Ming and {{spoiler|Gongora}} are effectively immortal.
* [[Impractically Fancy Outfit]]: Where to start? There's a possible [[Lampshade Hanging]] during the opening scenes in which a pair of soldiers wearing headgear with '' giant rings'' on them are surprised that Kaim - possibly the least fancily dressed character in the game - managed to survive, "especially in that outfit." In fact, Kaim, Seth, and Sarah all have relatively modest outfits, all things considered. Everyone else... not so much.
** Ming is one of the worst cases. Seriously, that outfit is definitely one of the more Stripperiffic outfits in the game. And she's supposed to be a queen?
*** [[Fridge Brilliance]]: given Ming's immortality and enormous [[The Archmage|power]] and [[Royals Who Actually Do Something|cunning]] (at least when she's not crippled with amnesia), she's basically reached a point where regalia has become superfluous: her subjects fully expect her to remain on the throne for centuries to come, so why would she need to [[The Woman Wearing the Queenly Mask|maintain appearances]]?
* [[Infant Immortality]]:
* [[I See London]]: Oh General Kakanas, you wacky jingoistic traitor....
* [[Jerk
* [[Joke Character]]: Tolten. He's like [[Final Fantasy IV
** He's actually a very good physical attacker (the strongest out of the mortals). However, He's outclassed by the immortals Kaim and Seth, and they can both learn his abilities.
* [[Kleptomaniac Hero]]: While nearly every pot, bookshelf, chest, and drawer in the visitable parts of town has useful items in it, the game has a hilarious [[Lampshade Hanging]] for this trope, in that the inhabitants of houses and proprietors of inns ''want'' you to take them for some reason. The innkeepers say that all the gold and potions lying around their businesses are "complimentary," while private citizens consider it a favor if you removed some of the clutter... you know, those piles of 100 gold coins that just do nothing for the flow of the room.
* [[Large Ham]]: Gongora leaves no scenery unchewed.
* [[Last Lousy Point]]: The game's infamous "Treasure Trove" achievement requires you to obtain every single item from all the lootable containers in the world. This includes not only treasure chests, but also every single pot, canister, rock pile, rammable tree, poster, underwater bubble, and other sorts of hidden stashes. Even ''with'' a guide, it's an incredibly arduous task. If you missed even one thing (and it's not for sale at the Auction House), good luck scouring the ''entire world'' for that Last Lousy Treasure.
* [[Let's Split Up, Gang!|Let's Split Up, Gang]]: Used very briefly for a pair of bosses at the end of the game. You separate into two teams of two characters and both parties must defeat their respective boss on the same turn.
** Also used in the Eastern Spirit Temple in Disc 4.
** Done by force in Disc 3
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** Played straight, however, with the Shieldus and Barricadus spells (likely a developer oversight). If you didn't purchase them before {{spoiler|Gongora freezes Gohtza}}, you won't ever be able to get them. The front gate of Khent is also inaccessible after that point, though there's barely anything to do there.
* [[Luke, You Are My Father]]: {{spoiler|Occurs when Kaim meets Lirum in Numara.}}
* [[Lull Destruction]]: The voice actor for Jansen clearly strove to fill every second he could with chatter and wisecracks, at least on the English track.
* [[Magitek]], and lots of it. Magic has sparked what the game calls a "Magic-industrial revolution," allowing cars and all sorts of flashy technology to be developed. For some reason, guns are the one thing they don't have in abundance, but all sorts of other bizarre machines abound. Maybe it's the fact that you don't ''need'' a gun when you can shoot fireballs from your fingers.
* [[Male Gaze]]: When Ming has to prove her identity as the Queen of Numara, she removes the silver emblem on her chest to reveal a royal crest. The camera focuses quite intently on her breasts during this.
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* [[Manipulative Bastard]]: Gongora
* [[Manly Tears]]: {{spoiler|Kaim, who worked as a mercenary for countless battles, wars, and various odd jobs in the past, bursts into tears when he finally reunites with his daughter, Lirum, on her deathbed.}}
* [[Medieval European Fantasy]]: The setting for the world borders on this, along with being steampunk.
* [[Meganekko]]: Sarah.
* [[Motor Mouth]]: Jansen. Has the remarkable ability to pack over five times as many excuses, commiserations, and complaints into a sentence as the average person. And every word is [[Ensemble Darkhorse|solid gold]].
* [[No Guy Wants an Amazon]]: [[White Mage|White Mages]] Sarah and Ming are the romantic interests of story, while [[Action Girl]] Seth is not. {{spoiler|Obviously subverted by Sed's unseen father.}}
* [[Non-Lethal KO]]: Immortal characters automatically revive themselves after a few rounds.
* [[Nonstandard Game Over]]: Usually if you fail to defeat any of the [[Puzzle Boss|Puzzle Bosses]] the right way someone critical to the plot dies and you get a game over.
* [[Obviously Evil]]: Gongora is so obviously shifty (just look at that [[Beard of Evil]]!) that the leader of the council keeps revising his position within the first half hour of the game. First he wants the construction of Gongora's giant magic tower, the Grand Staff, temporarily halted so he can send investigators, then he says he ''definitely'' wants it suspended and sends two unkillable people to check out why nobody's reported back from it, then he orders Gongora under house arrest, all in the same day. Sadly the heroes don't tumble to his evil until after the damage is done.
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* [[Random Encounters]]: As standard for an RPG.
* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old|Really One Thousand Years Old]]
* [[Royals Who Actually Do Something]]: Ming and eventually {{spoiler|Tolten}}.
* [[Save Point]]: They usually show up just before a boss fight.
* [[Schmuck Bait]]: Most [[Puzzle Boss|Puzzle Bosses]] in the game can end with you getting a [[Nonstandard Game Over|Non Standard Game Over]] or curb stomped because you failed to realize you were fighting a puzzle boss, not a regular one.
* [[Sealed Evil in
* [[Sexy Backless Outfit]]: Seth. Kaim's armour also conveniently leaves his lower back bare, for the players who prefer men.
** Or Fanservice for us female gamers.
* [[Shirtless Scene]]: Kaim gets a short one early on.
* [[Shout
* [[Smug Snake]]: Gongora. He has enough power, intelligence and [[Manipulative Bastard|"interpersonal skills"]] that you'd ''think'' he'd make a fine [[Magnificent Bastard]]... but he's so obviously evil and completely lacking in charisma, pummeling the slimy little git is all you'll think about.
** Also done literally when {{spoiler|Gongora turns into a giant snake to kill the head councilman.}}
* [[Spiritual Successor]]: To [[Final Fantasy]] [[Final Fantasy I
* [[Stealth
* [[Stripperiffic]]: Queen Ming.
* [[Tagalong Kid]]: Mack and Cooke.
* [[Take That]]: The rhetoric of turning Numara into a great military power that General Kakanas spouts makes him sound an awful lot like George W. Bush. The trope applies even more when considering that Kakanas talks big, but is an inept loser in the end.
* [[Team Dad]]: Kaim, of the [[Jerk
▲* [[Ted Baxter]]: Jansen.
* [[Two Lines, No Waiting]]: Compromises a majority of the plot development in disc 3. {{spoiler|Seth accidentally returns to Uhra with Tolten and reunites with her son, Sed, Cooke and Mack try to find a violet aurora that can reunite them with their deceased mother, Kaim and Sarah chase after them, and Gongora's weather machine separates Jansen and Ming from everyone else.}}
* [[Unwitting Pawn]]: Tolten is such a well-meaning idiot it's almost painful to watch.
* [[Victory Pose]]: Humorously, amidst the standard [[Victory Pose|Victory Poses]] of the other character's, Tolten's is a relieved sigh.
* [[War Is Hell]]: A number of Kaim's dreams deal with the horrors of war.
* [[Warp Whistle]]: The world map acts as this, there's no over-world to speak of.
* [[Wasted Song]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35trrTooucQ Battle Conditions], a particularly upbeat and badass boss track, is woefully underused.
* [[We Are
* [[White Magician Girl]]: Subverted. Cooke is female, a healer, carries a staff... and is a [[Bratty Half
* [[Who Wants to Live Forever?]]: Another major theme, for obvious reasons, but it's subverted by the ending {{spoiler|in which the characters agree that eternity isn't so bad after all}}.
* [[The Woman Wearing the Queenly Mask]]: Ming Numara
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