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[[Lunar the Silver Star]] is the first game in the the Game Arts-developed [[Lunar]] series of [[Eastern RPG|console role-playing games]]. The game has gotten multiple [[R Emake|Remakes]] and/or [[Updated Rerelease|Updated Rereleases]] over the years on multiple platforms. The titles are:
[[Lunar: The Silver Star]] is the first game in the the Game Arts-developed [[Lunar]] series of [[Eastern RPG|console role-playing games]]. The game has gotten multiple [[R Emake|Remakes]] and/or [[Updated Rerelease|Updated Rereleases]] over the years on multiple platforms. The titles are:


* ''Lunar: The Silver Star'' for [[Sega|Sega CD]], English version released by [[Working Designs]]
* ''Lunar: The Silver Star'' for [[Sega|Sega CD]], English version released by [[Working Designs]]
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* [[Aw, Look -- They Really Do Love Each Other]]: Despite all their fighting, [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|Kyle]] ''[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|breaks out of stone]]'' [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|to save Jessica]].
* [[Aw, Look -- They Really Do Love Each Other]]: Despite all their fighting, [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|Kyle]] ''[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|breaks out of stone]]'' [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|to save Jessica]].
* [[Badass Normal]]: Despite being part of a group that also contains three magic users and guy who dreams of becoming a Dragonmaster {{spoiler|and eventually does}}, Kyle is content with taking a sword and slaying monsters with brute force.
* [[Badass Normal]]: Despite being part of a group that also contains three magic users and guy who dreams of becoming a Dragonmaster {{spoiler|and eventually does}}, Kyle is content with taking a sword and slaying monsters with brute force.
* [[Batman Gambit]]: The Magic Emperor uses the heroes' altruism to help him achieve his goals. {{spoiler|There's a bit of dramatic irony there because Ghaleon's introduction makes him damn close to [[Obviously Evil]]. But he ''is'' a [[Villain With Good Publicity]] who actually uses his [[The Dragon|right-hand woman]] to deflect suspicion off of himself.}}
* [[Batman Gambit]]: The Magic Emperor uses the heroes' altruism to help him achieve his goals. {{spoiler|There's a bit of dramatic irony there because Ghaleon's introduction makes him damn close to [[Obviously Evil]]. But he ''is'' a [[Villain with Good Publicity]] who actually uses his [[The Dragon|right-hand woman]] to deflect suspicion off of himself.}}
* [[Base On Wheels]]: The Magic Emperor's Grindery, a castle on huge tank treads.
* [[Base on Wheels]]: The Magic Emperor's Grindery, a castle on huge tank treads.
* [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]]: Jessica and Kyle.
* [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]]: Jessica and Kyle.
* [[Broken Bridge]]: Played with. In Meryod, your party members literally break a bridge themselves.
* [[Broken Bridge]]: Played with. In Meryod, your party members literally break a bridge themselves.
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* [[Boring but Practical]]: The Sega CD version gave the characters ''several'' more spells for all characters -- including attack songs for Luna -- but several of these were just multi-target variations on existing spells or were too overspecialized to be useful (curing only sleep instead of all status effects, for instance). ''Silver Star Story'', in contrast, gives each character only up to eight spells, tops.
* [[Boring but Practical]]: The Sega CD version gave the characters ''several'' more spells for all characters -- including attack songs for Luna -- but several of these were just multi-target variations on existing spells or were too overspecialized to be useful (curing only sleep instead of all status effects, for instance). ''Silver Star Story'', in contrast, gives each character only up to eight spells, tops.
* [[Bratty Half-Pint]]: Nash.
* [[Bratty Half-Pint]]: Nash.
* [[Brother Sister Incest]]: Whoof. All versions of ''Silver Star'' are a classic example of this being played ''perfectly straight'', to the [[Squick|disquiet]] of many. Alex and Luna [[Not Blood Siblings|not even remotely related]], sure (what with Luna {{spoiler|being an ''incarnated divinity'' and all}}), but the game makes explicit the fact that they've been raised together since they were ''infants''. Apparently the writers don't think [[wikipedia:Imprinting chr(28)psychologychr(29)#Westermarck effect|the Westermarck effect]] should kick in, for some reason. This is one of the few real points of contention on the game's quality these days.
* [[Brother-Sister Incest]]: Whoof. All versions of ''Silver Star'' are a classic example of this being played ''perfectly straight'', to the [[Squick|disquiet]] of many. Alex and Luna [[Not Blood Siblings|not even remotely related]], sure (what with Luna {{spoiler|being an ''incarnated divinity'' and all}}), but the game makes explicit the fact that they've been raised together since they were ''infants''. Apparently the writers don't think [[wikipedia:Imprinting chr(28)psychologychr(29)#Westermarck effect|the Westermarck effect]] should kick in, for some reason. This is one of the few real points of contention on the game's quality these days.
* [[Brown Note]]: One of the girls in ''Silver Star'' fancies herself a potential kidnapping victim, since the Magic Emperor is collecting singers, but... "tone deaf" is putting it nicely. Also, {{spoiler|Luna/Althena's singing under the Magic Emperor's influence can cause pain and illnesses.}}
* [[Brown Note]]: One of the girls in ''Silver Star'' fancies herself a potential kidnapping victim, since the Magic Emperor is collecting singers, but... "tone deaf" is putting it nicely. Also, {{spoiler|Luna/Althena's singing under the Magic Emperor's influence can cause pain and illnesses.}}
* [[But Thou Must!]]: Occasionally [[Lampshaded]]; one NPC that does this to you says that he can keep this up much longer than you can. Better still, it's a villain, asking you to let him go since he's [[Defeat Means Friendship|learned his lesson]]...
* [[But Thou Must!]]: Occasionally [[Lampshaded]]; one NPC that does this to you says that he can keep this up much longer than you can. Better still, it's a villain, asking you to let him go since he's [[Defeat Means Friendship|learned his lesson]]...
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* [[Cute Monster Girl]]: A lot of the Vile Tribe appear as goblin-like monsters. However, the three witches who lead them are hot chicks in [[Stripperiffic]] outfits.
* [[Cute Monster Girl]]: A lot of the Vile Tribe appear as goblin-like monsters. However, the three witches who lead them are hot chicks in [[Stripperiffic]] outfits.
* [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]]: The Magic Emperor. {{spoiler|It helps that he's seen all this before, from the other side. He knows how heroes think.}}
* [[Dangerously Genre Savvy]]: The Magic Emperor. {{spoiler|It helps that he's seen all this before, from the other side. He knows how heroes think.}}
* [[Death Glare]]: Done for laughs with Mel's introduction, capping off a [[Cut His Heart Out With a Spoon]] threat.
* [[Death Glare]]: Done for laughs with Mel's introduction, capping off a [[Cut His Heart Out with a Spoon]] threat.
* [[Duet Bonding]]: Used for blatant ship tease in the remakes, as Alex and Luna perform duets together with ocarina and vocals. It shows up most memorably in Lyton, where only a duet of true love can open the path to the Blue Dragon's Shrine. So, Kyle and Jessica try it, as well as Nash and Mia... unfortunately, all four are lousy singers and fail, but the ship tease is still pretty heavy. Alex and Luna, on the other hand, [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|are able to open the shrine despite Luna being nowhere in sight, hearing the song through the pure]] [[Power of Love]].
* [[Duet Bonding]]: Used for blatant ship tease in the remakes, as Alex and Luna perform duets together with ocarina and vocals. It shows up most memorably in Lyton, where only a duet of true love can open the path to the Blue Dragon's Shrine. So, Kyle and Jessica try it, as well as Nash and Mia... unfortunately, all four are lousy singers and fail, but the ship tease is still pretty heavy. Alex and Luna, on the other hand, [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|are able to open the shrine despite Luna being nowhere in sight, hearing the song through the pure]] [[Power of Love]].
* [[The Dragon]]: Xenobia of the Vile Tribe. In the remakes, she is joined by {{spoiler|her sisters Royce and Phacia.}} The skeletal remains of the Black Dragon in ''The Silver Star'' arguably counts.
* [[The Dragon]]: Xenobia of the Vile Tribe. In the remakes, she is joined by {{spoiler|her sisters Royce and Phacia.}} The skeletal remains of the Black Dragon in ''The Silver Star'' arguably counts.
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** Dyne rescues Althena like Alex rescues Luna.
** Dyne rescues Althena like Alex rescues Luna.
** Ghaleon is devoted to Althena in a way similar to Nash's feelings for Mia, {{spoiler|and they both sort of [[Face Heel Turn]] because of that person.}}
** Ghaleon is devoted to Althena in a way similar to Nash's feelings for Mia, {{spoiler|and they both sort of [[Face Heel Turn]] because of that person.}}
* [[Get On the Boat]]: From Caldor Island to the main continent and back. In the original game, Luna stays behind and wishes Alex good luck, but in the remake, she stays with you for quite a while...{{spoiler|just long enough to get kidnapped by Ghaleon.}}
* [[Get on the Boat]]: From Caldor Island to the main continent and back. In the original game, Luna stays behind and wishes Alex good luck, but in the remake, she stays with you for quite a while...{{spoiler|just long enough to get kidnapped by Ghaleon.}}
* [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]]: In ''Silver Star Story'', examine the chicken in Alex's house. An irritated Nall will comment on how they wake him up in the morning and how he wants to "choke them."
* [[Getting Crap Past the Radar]]: In ''Silver Star Story'', examine the chicken in Alex's house. An irritated Nall will comment on how they wake him up in the morning and how he wants to "choke them."
* [[Good Parents]]: Alex is a rare RPG protagonist who still has two living parents, and his father helps you get through the game's first dungeon. After this, however, they don't play much of a role in the plot.
* [[Good Parents]]: Alex is a rare RPG protagonist who still has two living parents, and his father helps you get through the game's first dungeon. After this, however, they don't play much of a role in the plot.
* [[Guest Star Party Member]]: Tempest, Laike and Ghaleon.
* [[Guest Star Party Member]]: Tempest, Laike and Ghaleon.
* [[Guide Dang It]]: Getting all the Bromides and secret items. These are instances of [[Difficulty By Region]] in the [[Working Designs]] versions.
* [[Guide Dang It]]: Getting all the Bromides and secret items. These are instances of [[Difficulty by Region]] in the [[Working Designs]] versions.
** WD changed the triggers for some items in ''Silver Star Story Complete'' so that they were nigh impossible for the player to find without instructions. No such changes were made in ''Harmony'', so the secret items are easier to find.
** WD changed the triggers for some items in ''Silver Star Story Complete'' so that they were nigh impossible for the player to find without instructions. No such changes were made in ''Harmony'', so the secret items are easier to find.
** Raise your hand if you knew right away that you were supposed to {{spoiler|play music to Luna at the end of the game so she won't fry you with lightning}}. WD added this to their versions, so ''Lunar Legend'' and ''Silver Star Harmony'' are more straightforward.
** Raise your hand if you knew right away that you were supposed to {{spoiler|play music to Luna at the end of the game so she won't fry you with lightning}}. WD added this to their versions, so ''Lunar Legend'' and ''Silver Star Harmony'' are more straightforward.
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* [["I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight]]: {{spoiler|If Alex wants to survive approaching Luna/Althena at the climax while she assails him with lightning, he has to play his harp/ocarina first to reach out to her remaining humanity and love for him.}}
* [["I Know You're in There Somewhere" Fight]]: {{spoiler|If Alex wants to survive approaching Luna/Althena at the climax while she assails him with lightning, he has to play his harp/ocarina first to reach out to her remaining humanity and love for him.}}
* [[Incest Is Relative]]: The town of Meryod is populated entirely by inbred hicks, who seem to delight in mentioning their [[Squick|squicky]] close interrelation with each other.
* [[Incest Is Relative]]: The town of Meryod is populated entirely by inbred hicks, who seem to delight in mentioning their [[Squick|squicky]] close interrelation with each other.
* [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]]: Kyle. Because of the way he is, Jessica can't decide if she loves him or hates his guts.
* [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold]]: Kyle. Because of the way he is, Jessica can't decide if she loves him or hates his guts.
* [[Just Like Robin Hood]]: Kyle.
* [[Just Like Robin Hood]]: Kyle.
* [[Kaizo Trap]]: So you just beat the Magic Emperor. If you're playing ''The Silver Star'' or ''Silver Star Story Complete'', do remember to play the harp/ocarina, mmkay?
* [[Kaizo Trap]]: So you just beat the Magic Emperor. If you're playing ''The Silver Star'' or ''Silver Star Story Complete'', do remember to play the harp/ocarina, mmkay?
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* [[Only the Chosen May Wield]]: Althena's Sword is an example of the Sword in the Stone variety.
* [[Only the Chosen May Wield]]: Althena's Sword is an example of the Sword in the Stone variety.
* [[Our Angels Are Different]]: In ''The Silver Star'', Alex must journey to Althena's Tower as the final step to become a Dragonmaster. Two winged, humanoid dragons (the Dragon Angels) challenge him to a two-on-one [[Duel Boss]] for the right to wield Althena's Sword. All of the remakes cut them out entirely.
* [[Our Angels Are Different]]: In ''The Silver Star'', Alex must journey to Althena's Tower as the final step to become a Dragonmaster. Two winged, humanoid dragons (the Dragon Angels) challenge him to a two-on-one [[Duel Boss]] for the right to wield Althena's Sword. All of the remakes cut them out entirely.
* [[Port Town]]: Saith, the town where your party [[Get On the Boat|gets on the boat]].
* [[Port Town]]: Saith, the town where your party [[Get on the Boat|gets on the boat]].
* [[Psychic Dreams for Everyone]]: Right before his return voyage to Caldor\Honmel Island, Alex has a dream that Luna gets taken away from him. Guess what happens when he actually goes back?
* [[Psychic Dreams for Everyone]]: Right before his return voyage to Caldor\Honmel Island, Alex has a dream that Luna gets taken away from him. Guess what happens when he actually goes back?
* [[Razor Wind]]: Kyle's "Sonic Riser" attack, which is lampshaded with a kamaitachi reference in the description: "release weasel."
* [[Razor Wind]]: Kyle's "Sonic Riser" attack, which is lampshaded with a kamaitachi reference in the description: "release weasel."
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* [[Solid Gold Poop]]: What dragon diamonds are made of. This isn't a translation gag, either. It's in the Japanese version as well.
* [[Solid Gold Poop]]: What dragon diamonds are made of. This isn't a translation gag, either. It's in the Japanese version as well.
{{quote| '''Quark:''' Don't they know that they're my sh-}}
{{quote| '''Quark:''' Don't they know that they're my sh-}}
* [[So Long and Thanks For All The Gear]]: Played straight in the original versions. Ghaleon and Laike join your party for a single mission each, and you can take all their equipment and sell it. They're both ridiculously powerful, and can usually beat whatever comes to them bare-handed.
* [[So Long and Thanks For All the Gear]]: Played straight in the original versions. Ghaleon and Laike join your party for a single mission each, and you can take all their equipment and sell it. They're both ridiculously powerful, and can usually beat whatever comes to them bare-handed.
** Unfortunately, this is averted in the remakes - the equipment menus for temporary characters are locked down.
** Unfortunately, this is averted in the remakes - the equipment menus for temporary characters are locked down.
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: {{spoiler|Ghaleon}}'s belief in the ''Complete'' and ''Harmony'' versions, that {{spoiler|humanity ''needs'' a god for protection, and cannot look after itself}}, turns out to have been extremely well-founded considering the events of [[Lunar Eternal Blue|the sequel]].
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: {{spoiler|Ghaleon}}'s belief in the ''Complete'' and ''Harmony'' versions, that {{spoiler|humanity ''needs'' a god for protection, and cannot look after itself}}, turns out to have been extremely well-founded considering the events of [[Lunar Eternal Blue|the sequel]].
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* [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]: Luna's [[First Girl Wins]] cred? Unbeatable.
* [[Victorious Childhood Friend]]: Luna's [[First Girl Wins]] cred? Unbeatable.
* [[Villains Out Shopping]]: Though he's never shown tending to it, the Magic Emperor keeps a garden. A garden full of pixies, to boot. Could count as a [[Pet the Dog]] moment, since most of the pixies think he's genuinely nice, if out of touch with reality. The first time the party meets him {{spoiler|as Ghaleon}}, he's also shown to be good with a lute.
* [[Villains Out Shopping]]: Though he's never shown tending to it, the Magic Emperor keeps a garden. A garden full of pixies, to boot. Could count as a [[Pet the Dog]] moment, since most of the pixies think he's genuinely nice, if out of touch with reality. The first time the party meets him {{spoiler|as Ghaleon}}, he's also shown to be good with a lute.
* [[Villain With Good Publicity]]: {{spoiler|Ghaleon}} milks this one as well as anyone, effectively turning the heroes into his minions.
* [[Villain with Good Publicity]]: {{spoiler|Ghaleon}} milks this one as well as anyone, effectively turning the heroes into his minions.
* [[Visible Silence]]: Alex is the king of this.
* [[Visible Silence]]: Alex is the king of this.
* [[Weapon Tombstone]]: In the remakes, Dyne's Monument has his sword stuck in it. {{spoiler|Eventually, Alex pulls it out and uses it to become the Dragonmaster.}}
* [[Weapon Tombstone]]: In the remakes, Dyne's Monument has his sword stuck in it. {{spoiler|Eventually, Alex pulls it out and uses it to become the Dragonmaster.}}
* [[Welcome to The Big City]]: All the party members are thrilled to arrive in the bustling [[Merchant City]] of Meribia early in the game. Being that the story is [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|high in idealism]], just about everyone in Meribia is as friendly and well-meaning as can be. That doesn't keep the party from getting robbed by a crooked jeweler, though.
* [[Welcome to the Big City]]: All the party members are thrilled to arrive in the bustling [[Merchant City]] of Meribia early in the game. Being that the story is [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|high in idealism]], just about everyone in Meribia is as friendly and well-meaning as can be. That doesn't keep the party from getting robbed by a crooked jeweler, though.
* [["Well Done, Son" Guy]]: Ramus' dad, the mayor of Burg, won't accept his son's insistence on leaving the continent for any reason.
* [["Well Done, Son" Guy]]: Ramus' dad, the mayor of Burg, won't accept his son's insistence on leaving the continent for any reason.
* [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]: The Magic Emperor, albeit much more in ''Silver Star Story'' than the original.
* [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]: The Magic Emperor, albeit much more in ''Silver Star Story'' than the original.