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Though the trope usually involves campy behavior, such characters are also often portrayed [[Testosterone Poisoning|as being so overly manly that it becomes impossible to take seriously]]. These types tend to be prone to flexing and talking about how macho they are, all the while being a rather obvious gay stereotype.
Though the trope usually involves campy behavior, such characters are also often portrayed [[Testosterone Poisoning|as being so overly manly that it becomes impossible to take seriously]]. These types tend to be prone to flexing and talking about how macho they are, all the while being a rather obvious gay stereotype.


This stereotype is somewhat more common in Japan (where it has become the default gay stereotype, as [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|fashion-conscious]] [[Bishonen|pretty boys]] are more associated with heterosexuals there) than in the US, but is still seen in Western media. Almost always [[Played for Laughs]], such characters are often introduced to be [[Comic Relief]], or [[Double Standard Rape (Male On Male)|to hit on the straight guy who can do little to stop it]].
This stereotype is somewhat more common in Japan (where it has become the default gay stereotype, as [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|fashion-conscious]] [[Bishonen|pretty boys]] are more associated with heterosexuals there) than in the US, but is still seen in Western media. Almost always [[Played for Laughs]], such characters are often introduced to be [[Comic Relief]], or [[Double Standard Rape (Male on Male)|to hit on the straight guy who can do little to stop it]].


See also: [[Camp Gay]]. Contrast with [[Straight Gay]]. If a muscular-looking character is gay, but not a stereotype, then he's [[Manly Gay]].
See also: [[Camp Gay]]. Contrast with [[Straight Gay]]. If a muscular-looking character is gay, but not a stereotype, then he's [[Manly Gay]].
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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* Scarron from ''[[Zero no Tsukaima (Light Novel)|Zero no Tsukaima]]''.
* Scarron from ''[[Zero no Tsukaima]]''.
* Muscle Okama from ''[[Zettai Karen Children]]''. Besides the leather getup, his psychic ability is crotch beams. As if calling a [[Macho Camp]] character [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/okama "okama"] weren't enough...
* Muscle Okama from ''[[Zettai Karen Children]]''. Besides the leather getup, his psychic ability is crotch beams. As if calling a [[Macho Camp]] character [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/okama "okama"] weren't enough...
* Despite the large number of cute [[Petting Zoo People]] girls in the show and Keita's clear interest in them, ''[[Inukami]]'' has plenty of manservice in the form of Hard Gays; disturbingly so. Keita is on the receiving end of most of it, and is ''respected'' among the fetish and hard gay communities. The show has plenty of [[Censor Steam]] in the form of elephants on top of all this. It even goes so far as to give these men their own [[Special Edition Title|version of the ending]] once.
* Despite the large number of cute [[Petting Zoo People]] girls in the show and Keita's clear interest in them, ''[[Inukami!]]'' has plenty of manservice in the form of Hard Gays; disturbingly so. Keita is on the receiving end of most of it, and is ''respected'' among the fetish and hard gay communities. The show has plenty of [[Censor Steam]] in the form of elephants on top of all this. It even goes so far as to give these men their own [[Special Edition Title|version of the ending]] once.
* Parodied in the [[Fan Service]] showdown in ''[[Aoi House]] In Love!''
* Parodied in the [[Fan Service]] showdown in ''[[Aoi House]] In Love!''
* Borderline case: Gateau Mocha from ''[[Sorcerer Hunters]]''. More exactly, a ''Hard Bisexual'' who ''loves'' to flirt with not only girls but with his friend Marron, a very girly-looking bishonen. [[Dub Text|Even more in the dubs.]]
* Borderline case: Gateau Mocha from ''[[Sorcerer Hunters]]''. More exactly, a ''Hard Bisexual'' who ''loves'' to flirt with not only girls but with his friend Marron, a very girly-looking bishonen. [[Dub Text|Even more in the dubs.]]
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* ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'''s Garfiel. Though he might be more of a [[Camp Gay]] character depending on how you interpret him (he even cross-dresses from time to time and has an over-the-top feminine walk).
* ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'''s Garfiel. Though he might be more of a [[Camp Gay]] character depending on how you interpret him (he even cross-dresses from time to time and has an over-the-top feminine walk).
** Alex Louis Armstrong might count as this. Then again, this trope may [[Catch Phrase|have been passed down]] [[Running Gag|the Armstrong Line for generations!]]
** Alex Louis Armstrong might count as this. Then again, this trope may [[Catch Phrase|have been passed down]] [[Running Gag|the Armstrong Line for generations!]]
* It's somewhat doubtful that [[Large Ham|Geki Hyuuma]], the comm-crushing, tanktop-spacesuit-wearing, ever-flexing (even in space) Lancer of ''[[Gao Gai Gar]]'''s Gutsy Galaxy Guard is actually gay. But it is certain that he takes this trope as far as his [[Hot-Blooded|Hot Bloodedness]], which is to say that eleven is a good start.
* It's somewhat doubtful that [[Large Ham|Geki Hyuuma]], the comm-crushing, tanktop-spacesuit-wearing, ever-flexing (even in space) Lancer of ''[[GaoGaiGar]]'''s Gutsy Galaxy Guard is actually gay. But it is certain that he takes this trope as far as his [[Hot-Blooded|Hot Bloodedness]], which is to say that eleven is a good start.
* Hapshiel the Angel from ''[[Macademi Wasshoi]]''. Finea, Eneus' little sister, is repeatedly sent to him by Eitarou in episode nine and, despite the scarring she most likely got from seeing a muscular man in very little kiss her multiple times over, ''keeps going back''.
* Hapshiel the Angel from ''[[Macademi Wasshoi]]''. Finea, Eneus' little sister, is repeatedly sent to him by Eitarou in episode nine and, despite the scarring she most likely got from seeing a muscular man in very little kiss her multiple times over, ''keeps going back''.
* In the [[Distant Finale]] of ''[[Dragonball]] Z'', Trunks is horrified to discover that his opponent (named Otokosuki, or "man-love") looks [[Manly Gay]] but ''acts'' [[Camp Gay]] and is positively ''thrilled'' that Trunks is such a pretty young man.
* In the [[Distant Finale]] of ''[[Dragon Ball]] Z'', Trunks is horrified to discover that his opponent (named Otokosuki, or "man-love") looks [[Manly Gay]] but ''acts'' [[Camp Gay]] and is positively ''thrilled'' that Trunks is such a pretty young man.
** Trunks himself does his best to skirt this trope, what with being a musclebound ''[[Dragonball]] Z'' character, his extreme attachment to his [[Ho Yay|"best friend"]] Goten and his seeming indifference to girls.
** Trunks himself does his best to skirt this trope, what with being a musclebound ''[[Dragon Ball]] Z'' character, his extreme attachment to his [[Ho Yay|"best friend"]] Goten and his seeming indifference to girls.
** General Blue of the Red Ribbon Army from ''[[Dragonball]]'' also comes across as both Camp and Hard Gay (but calling him gay is his [[Berserk Button]]). General Blue, the [[Laughably Evil|humorously homosexual]], yet frighteningly powerful villain who gives Goku a run for his money until he is [[You Have Failed Me|killed]] by billion-[[Gratuitous Japanese|zeni]] mercenary Tao Pai Pai.
** General Blue of the Red Ribbon Army from ''[[Dragon Ball]]'' also comes across as both Camp and Hard Gay (but calling him gay is his [[Berserk Button]]). General Blue, the [[Laughably Evil|humorously homosexual]], yet frighteningly powerful villain who gives Goku a run for his money until he is [[You Have Failed Me|killed]] by billion-[[Gratuitous Japanese|zeni]] mercenary Tao Pai Pai.
* Lussuria from ''[[Katekyo Hitman Reborn]]''. See also [[Depraved Homosexual]] and [[Camp Gay]].
* Lussuria from ''[[Katekyo Hitman Reborn]]''. See also [[Depraved Homosexual]] and [[Camp Gay]].
* Mokoyama from ''[[Yakitate!! Japan]]'' is a big muscle-man who's into crochet and baking pastries, and likes to refer to his rival Ken Matsuhiro as "Ken-chan".
* Mokoyama from ''[[Yakitate!! Japan]]'' is a big muscle-man who's into crochet and baking pastries, and likes to refer to his rival Ken Matsuhiro as "Ken-chan".
* [[Meaningful Name|Alain Delon]] in ''[[Beelzebub (Manga)|Beelzebub]]'' is turning (maybe [[Flanderization]]?) into ''such'' a [[Camp Gay]], with touches of [[Gayngster]], working for Hell and all. There may still be [[Obfuscating Stupidity]] at work, but nothing's sure.
* [[Meaningful Name|Alain Delon]] in ''[[Beelzebub]]'' is turning (maybe [[Flanderization]]?) into ''such'' a [[Camp Gay]], with touches of [[Gayngster]], working for Hell and all. There may still be [[Obfuscating Stupidity]] at work, but nothing's sure.




== Film ==
== Film ==
* ''[[Stardust (Film)|Stardust]]'' has Captain Shakespeare, hiding inside a [[Transparent Closet]]. Granted, in private he's very much a [[Camp Gay]], but it's undeniable that he's [[Badass]] and a very competent pirate.
* ''[[Stardust (film)|Stardust]]'' has Captain Shakespeare, hiding inside a [[Transparent Closet]]. Granted, in private he's very much a [[Camp Gay]], but it's undeniable that he's [[Badass]] and a very competent pirate.
* {{spoiler|The black firefighter}} in ''[[I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry]]'' became this once he came out.
* {{spoiler|The black firefighter}} in ''[[I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry]]'' became this once he came out.




== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* [[Disgaea Hour of Darkness (Video Game)/Characters|Laharl]]'s uncle [[Disgaea Novels (Light Novel)/Characters|Vesuvius]] from the [[Disgaea]] [[Disgaea Novels|novels]] is a very feminine macho man. He talks like a women and literally [[Real Men Wear Pink|wear pink]], but it unknown if he is truly gay because he is married to a women, a really horrible women at that. Though it just might be because he is such a [[Too Kinky to Torture|masochist]] and she is a [[Torture Technician]].
* [[Disgaea Hour of Darkness/Characters|Laharl]]'s uncle [[Disgaea Novels/Characters|Vesuvius]] from the [[Disgaea]] [[Disgaea Novels|novels]] is a very feminine macho man. He talks like a women and literally [[Real Men Wear Pink|wear pink]], but it unknown if he is truly gay because he is married to a women, a really horrible women at that. Though it just might be because he is such a [[Too Kinky to Torture|masochist]] and she is a [[Torture Technician]].
* Mua, the huge, muscular valet to the Dancers in "Cata", the [[John Ringo]] and Jody Lyn Nye story in the Shared Universe book ''Exile: Clan of the Claw''. Interesting twist in that he's a non-human version of this being a [[Cat People|feline humanoid]]. Word to the wise, do not [[Berserk Button|hurt his lover Emero]] or he will get Bronze Age on your ass.
* Mua, the huge, muscular valet to the Dancers in "Cata", the [[John Ringo]] and Jody Lyn Nye story in the Shared Universe book ''Exile: Clan of the Claw''. Interesting twist in that he's a non-human version of this being a [[Cat People|feline humanoid]]. Word to the wise, do not [[Berserk Button|hurt his lover Emero]] or he will get Bronze Age on your ass.


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* In ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'''s famous Honeybee Inn sequence, if Cloud chooses the "Group Room", he ends up stuck in a room full of these types.
* In ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'''s famous Honeybee Inn sequence, if Cloud chooses the "Group Room", he ends up stuck in a room full of these types.
* ''[[Breath of Fire]]'' often tend to feature battles with muscly, oily men in speedos... often with [[Giant Space Flea From Nowhere|absolutely no explanation whatsoever]].
* ''[[Breath of Fire]]'' often tend to feature battles with muscly, oily men in speedos... often with [[Giant Space Flea From Nowhere|absolutely no explanation whatsoever]].
* An enemy type in [[Elona]]. Despite the name, the Hard Gay has the appearance of a punk or gang member (also enemy types), and [[Suicide Attack|explodes on contact]] as their primary and ''only'' method of attack, making them almost no different from the [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Kamikaze]] [[Taking You With Me|Samurai]].
* An enemy type in [[Elona]]. Despite the name, the Hard Gay has the appearance of a punk or gang member (also enemy types), and [[Suicide Attack|explodes on contact]] as their primary and ''only'' method of attack, making them almost no different from the [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Kamikaze]] [[Taking You with Me|Samurai]].
* ''[[Cho Aniki]]'' is largely based on this, especially the later games. Nearly nude muscle men fly around space shooting gooey energy out of their phallic heads to do battle with other naked space monsters that are usually conglomerations of big muscular men with fairy wings or something. Please [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/sexual-games/10.php see here] for a comprehensive analysis of this series. It's something that should not be missed. Really.
* ''[[Cho Aniki]]'' is largely based on this, especially the later games. Nearly nude muscle men fly around space shooting gooey energy out of their phallic heads to do battle with other naked space monsters that are usually conglomerations of big muscular men with fairy wings or something. Please [http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/sexual-games/10.php see here] for a comprehensive analysis of this series. It's something that should not be missed. Really.
* [[Muscle March]].
* [[Muscle March]].
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* Konami's ''[[Violent Storm]]'' side-scrolling beat'em up has Julius, who even ATTACKS BY FLEXING. [[Catch Phrase|Beauty Is Power]] indeed.
* Konami's ''[[Violent Storm]]'' side-scrolling beat'em up has Julius, who even ATTACKS BY FLEXING. [[Catch Phrase|Beauty Is Power]] indeed.
* Silver and Gold from ''[[God Hand]]''. They look Manly Gay, they act Camp Gay. It's funny until they start beating the ''ever-loving hell'' out of you.
* Silver and Gold from ''[[God Hand]]''. They look Manly Gay, they act Camp Gay. It's funny until they start beating the ''ever-loving hell'' out of you.
* Jean Armstrong from ''[[Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney]]: Trials and Tribulations'' is a beefy fellow obsessed with aromatherapy, the color pink, and other feminine things. He even refers to himself as a woman (occasionally, he obviously does not believe he is a woman), and flirts with both Phoenix and Godot fairly blatantly.
* Jean Armstrong from ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]: Trials and Tribulations'' is a beefy fellow obsessed with aromatherapy, the color pink, and other feminine things. He even refers to himself as a woman (occasionally, he obviously does not believe he is a woman), and flirts with both Phoenix and Godot fairly blatantly.
* Kanji from ''[[Persona 4]]'' is afraid of being seen as this, or even stereotypically gay, just because he's, well... confused. Unfortunately for him, his Shadow plays it up for all that its worth, with a boss fight against it in the form of a muscle-bound body, a rose bouquet for a head (which is the [[Bara Genre|'gay male' flower]]), and Shadow-Kanji's naked torso hanging out of it, escorted by two [[Cho Aniki]]-style bosses.
* Kanji from ''[[Persona 4]]'' is afraid of being seen as this, or even stereotypically gay, just because he's, well... confused. Unfortunately for him, his Shadow plays it up for all that its worth, with a boss fight against it in the form of a muscle-bound body, a rose bouquet for a head (which is the [[Bara Genre|'gay male' flower]]), and Shadow-Kanji's naked torso hanging out of it, escorted by two [[Cho Aniki]]-style bosses.
* Chousen, the [[Gender Flip|Genderflipped]] version of Diao Chan in ''[[Koihime Musou]]''. [http://www.tactics.ne.jp/%7Ebaseson/koihime/chara.htm#chousen Enjoy the Nighmare Fuel, kids!]
* Chousen, the [[Gender Flip|Genderflipped]] version of Diao Chan in ''[[Koihime Musou]]''. [http://www.tactics.ne.jp/%7Ebaseson/koihime/chara.htm#chousen Enjoy the Nighmare Fuel, kids!]
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* A very distinct version of this trope, the often crazy ''Mystical Ninja Goemon'' game series. The psychics that tell you where to go to advance the story are wearing very little, surrounded by dancing, buff male statues. Similarly, the game "punishes" you for getting a game over by showing the "Continue?" option surrounded scantily clad men hulu-hooping at you. I'm not kidding.
* A very distinct version of this trope, the often crazy ''Mystical Ninja Goemon'' game series. The psychics that tell you where to go to advance the story are wearing very little, surrounded by dancing, buff male statues. Similarly, the game "punishes" you for getting a game over by showing the "Continue?" option surrounded scantily clad men hulu-hooping at you. I'm not kidding.
* Gallacher from [[Absolute Obedience]] is an example, and the only main character to not actually engage in any of the sex scenes. Which isn't all that surprising, given the [[Yaoi Fangirl|target audience]].
* Gallacher from [[Absolute Obedience]] is an example, and the only main character to not actually engage in any of the sex scenes. Which isn't all that surprising, given the [[Yaoi Fangirl|target audience]].
* Ryan Yamazaki in [[No More Heroes 2]]. He's fittingly the owner of a gym and gives Travis [[Training From Hell]] while also flirting with him.
* Ryan Yamazaki in [[No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle]]. He's fittingly the owner of a gym and gives Travis [[Training From Hell]] while also flirting with him.




== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* He-Man, the titular hero of ''[[He Man and The Masters of The Universe (Animation)|He Man and The Masters of The Universe]]'', has often been interpreted as such, as his character design seemed based around revealing as much skin as was legal in a G-rated cartoon, and in his civilian garb he wore a pink shirt. Many camera shots also seem intended to have shown his flesh, but his onscreen behavior sometimes did, and sometimes did not, corroborate the fan theory.
* He-Man, the titular hero of ''[[He-Man and the Masters of the Universe|He Man and The Masters of The Universe]]'', has often been interpreted as such, as his character design seemed based around revealing as much skin as was legal in a G-rated cartoon, and in his civilian garb he wore a pink shirt. Many camera shots also seem intended to have shown his flesh, but his onscreen behavior sometimes did, and sometimes did not, corroborate the fan theory.
** Ironically, in the 2002 ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' cartoon had [[Cam Clarke]] doing the voice of He-Man and Prince Adam, and he actually is gay.
** Ironically, in the 2002 ''He-Man and the Masters of the Universe'' cartoon had [[Cam Clarke]] doing the voice of He-Man and Prince Adam, and he actually is gay.
** Talking about it, Argentine [[Web Original]] parody maker [[El Bananero]] once took this concept about [[He Man and The Masters of The Universe (Animation)|He Man and The Masters of The Universe]] and just [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbddbrYZzlw ran away with it.] Depending on your views, it may be either [[Dude, Not Funny|offensive]] or [[So Bad It's Good|utterly stupid]] and [[Rule of Funny|hilarious]].
** Talking about it, Argentine [[Web Original]] parody maker [[El Bananero]] once took this concept about [[He-Man and the Masters of the Universe|He Man and The Masters of The Universe]] and just [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbddbrYZzlw ran away with it.] Depending on your views, it may be either [[Dude, Not Funny|offensive]] or [[So Bad It's Good|utterly stupid]] and [[Rule of Funny|hilarious]].
* The second ''[[Johnny Bravo]]'' pilot ends with the titular character getting stranded on an entire island of them. Needless to say, after trying to score with an entire tribe of [[Hot Amazon]] women, this was most certainly NOT what he was hoping for.
* The second ''[[Johnny Bravo]]'' pilot ends with the titular character getting stranded on an entire island of them. Needless to say, after trying to score with an entire tribe of [[Hot Amazon]] women, this was most certainly NOT what he was hoping for.
* ''[[The Simpsons]]'': "Homer's Phobia"' featured a number of this type at a steel mill. Homer had thought that seeing American Joe's hard at work would "cure" Bart of his (believed) homosexuality. It didn't. [[Work Hard, Play Hard|"We work hard - we]] ''[[Work Hard, Play Hard|play]]'' [[Work Hard, Play Hard|hard!"]]
* ''[[The Simpsons]]'': "Homer's Phobia"' featured a number of this type at a steel mill. Homer had thought that seeing American Joe's hard at work would "cure" Bart of his (believed) homosexuality. It didn't. [[Work Hard, Play Hard|"We work hard - we]] ''[[Work Hard, Play Hard|play]]'' [[Work Hard, Play Hard|hard!"]]