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The serious work that you lavish all of your efforts on and have the highest expectations for will ''not'' receive nearly as much acclaim or success as the one you just toss out to pay the bills.
The serious work that you lavish all of your efforts on and have the highest expectations for will ''not'' receive nearly as much acclaim or success as the one you just toss out to pay the bills.


What happens when a writer or artist deliberately tries to create their ''[[Magnum Opus]]''? They slave over it for years, pouring 110% of their heart and soul and energy and sanity into it, and confidently expect it to be [[This Is Going to Be Huge|huge]], monumental, [[Genre Busting]], and assure them eternal fame and honor... and what is the response? "Meh, it's [[So Okay Its Average]]."
What happens when a writer or artist deliberately tries to create their ''[[Magnum Opus]]''? They slave over it for years, pouring 110% of their heart and soul and energy and sanity into it, and confidently expect it to be [[This Is Going to Be Huge|huge]], monumental, [[Genre Busting]], and assure them eternal fame and honor... and what is the response? "Meh, it's [[So Okay It's Average]]."


But what happens when the same artist just writes or creates something for fun or [[Money Dear Boy|profit]] with no big plans, hopes, or expectations for its success? Heck, they know it's not that good but figure it will at least pay the bills this month. They're so busy working on that inevitably earth-shattering ''magnum opus'', they don't even give this other silly little project much thought. Whoever commissioned it is sure to be disappointed, but it's no big deal; the public won't even notice its existence enough to laugh at its pointlessness anyway.
But what happens when the same artist just writes or creates something for fun or [[Money, Dear Boy|profit]] with no big plans, hopes, or expectations for its success? Heck, they know it's not that good but figure it will at least pay the bills this month. They're so busy working on that inevitably earth-shattering ''magnum opus'', they don't even give this other silly little project much thought. Whoever commissioned it is sure to be disappointed, but it's no big deal; the public won't even notice its existence enough to laugh at its pointlessness anyway.


Cue Situational [[Irony]]! That book, movie, or painting that the creator couldn't care less about becomes an instant sensation. They're hailed as a genius, worshipped for blessing the world with this wonderful new classic, immortalized in parodies and [[Homage|homages]], and earn an eternal place in history for their brilliance and creativity. That masterpiece they had such high hopes for will quickly fade into obscurity, but they will be remembered and celebrated for this little hackwork forever.
Cue Situational [[Irony]]! That book, movie, or painting that the creator couldn't care less about becomes an instant sensation. They're hailed as a genius, worshipped for blessing the world with this wonderful new classic, immortalized in parodies and [[Homage|homages]], and earn an eternal place in history for their brilliance and creativity. That masterpiece they had such high hopes for will quickly fade into obscurity, but they will be remembered and celebrated for this little hackwork forever.
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When the effect is somewhat delayed, see [[Vindicated By History]].
When the effect is somewhat delayed, see [[Vindicated By History]].


[[Sub Trope]] of the [[Centipedes Dilemma]] and [[Sister Trope]] to [[Creator Backlash]] (often a good source thereof, too). [[Sub Trope]] of [[Murphy's Law]]. Compare [[Self Deprecation]], [[Sweet and Sour Grapes]], [[Springtime for Hitler]], and [[It Will Never Catch On]]. Also see [[Consolation Award]] for when the work that ''is'' considered the best by public is not the most awarded.
[[Sub Trope]] of the [[Centipede's Dilemma]] and [[Sister Trope]] to [[Creator Backlash]] (often a good source thereof, too). [[Sub Trope]] of [[Murphy's Law]]. Compare [[Self-Deprecation]], [[Sweet and Sour Grapes]], [[Springtime for Hitler]], and [[It Will Never Catch On]]. Also see [[Consolation Award]] for when the work that ''is'' considered the best by public is not the most awarded.
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== Comicbooks ==
== Comicbooks ==
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== Fan Fiction ==
== Fan Fiction ==
* The brain breakingly epic ''[[Tamers Forever Series (Fanfic)|Tamers Forever Series]]'' was originally intended to be a mere side project while the author overcame his writers block.
* The brain breakingly epic ''[[Tamers Forever Series (Fanfic)|Tamers Forever Series]]'' was originally intended to be a mere side project while the author overcame his writers block.
* [[Cupcakes]] is an extremely [[Gorn|gory]] [[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] fanfic that was written on a whim because the author wanted to see if it would actually get any attention. The result: a fanfic so infamous that reading it is more or less a pre-requisite for understanding many of the in-jokes and references in the Friendship Is Magic fandom. It's spawned an incredible number of spinoff fics, and most recently, one of the show's animators made a rather gruesome [[Ascended Meme|music video]] based on the fic. The chances are very high that Lauren Faust, creator of the show, knows what Cupcakes is. Most [[Periphery Demographic|bronies]] might not even know that the author actually wrote more 'normal', more serious works that don't exactly get a ton of attention compared to Cupcakes.
* [[Cupcakes]] is an extremely [[Gorn|gory]] [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]] fanfic that was written on a whim because the author wanted to see if it would actually get any attention. The result: a fanfic so infamous that reading it is more or less a pre-requisite for understanding many of the in-jokes and references in the Friendship Is Magic fandom. It's spawned an incredible number of spinoff fics, and most recently, one of the show's animators made a rather gruesome [[Ascended Meme|music video]] based on the fic. The chances are very high that Lauren Faust, creator of the show, knows what Cupcakes is. Most [[Periphery Demographic|bronies]] might not even know that the author actually wrote more 'normal', more serious works that don't exactly get a ton of attention compared to Cupcakes.
* [[MLP the Games We Play]], a 379 page drama, while far from being an unnoticed piece of work, was promptly out-viewed by the author's later fic - a one shot of the philosophical ramblings of Pinkie Pie watching paint dry, something the author wasted little time pointing out in a blog post.
* [[MLP the Games We Play]], a 379 page drama, while far from being an unnoticed piece of work, was promptly out-viewed by the author's later fic - a one shot of the philosophical ramblings of Pinkie Pie watching paint dry, something the author wasted little time pointing out in a blog post.
* The dark fic [[Pokémon Master]] by Ace Sanchez became ''sort'' of this.
* The dark fic [[Pokémon Master]] by Ace Sanchez became ''sort'' of this.
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== Films -- Live-Action ==
== Films -- Live-Action ==
* [[Orson Welles]] believed that his greatest completed film was either ''Chimes At Midnight'' or ''The Trial'', not ''[[Citizen Kane (Film)|Citizen Kane]]''.
* [[Orson Welles]] believed that his greatest completed film was either ''Chimes At Midnight'' or ''The Trial'', not ''[[Citizen Kane (Film)|Citizen Kane]]''.
* This is something of a recurring narrative in the [[New Hollywood]] era of the 1970s, with numerous directors agreeing to do studio pictures in order to get the funding for the more personal pictures that they wanted to make. The studio pictures, which were usually made under [[Executive Meddling|some level of studio observation (however minor)]], would go on to be widely acclaimed as great films, whereas the more [[Auteur License|personal pictures]] -- usually made under an atmosphere of [[Protection From Editors]] and [[Small Name Big Ego|the director's ego]] having spiraled [[Prima Donna Director|completely out of control]] -- would bomb disastrously.
* This is something of a recurring narrative in the [[New Hollywood]] era of the 1970s, with numerous directors agreeing to do studio pictures in order to get the funding for the more personal pictures that they wanted to make. The studio pictures, which were usually made under [[Executive Meddling|some level of studio observation (however minor)]], would go on to be widely acclaimed as great films, whereas the more [[Auteur License|personal pictures]] -- usually made under an atmosphere of [[Protection From Editors]] and [[Small Name, Big Ego|the director's ego]] having spiraled [[Prima Donna Director|completely out of control]] -- would bomb disastrously.
** A textbook example: the [[The Western|Western]] ''[[Heavens Gate (Film)|Heavens Gate]]'' was the passion project of Michael Cimino, director of the acclaimed [[The Vietnam War|Vietnam War]] movie ''[[The Deer Hunter]]''. It's considered one of the [[Box Office Bomb|biggest bombs]] in film history, not only [[Creator Killer|ending Cimino's career]] but also the [[New Hollywood]] era.
** A textbook example: the [[The Western|Western]] ''[[Heavens Gate (Film)|Heavens Gate]]'' was the passion project of Michael Cimino, director of the acclaimed [[The Vietnam War|Vietnam War]] movie ''[[The Deer Hunter]]''. It's considered one of the [[Box Office Bomb|biggest bombs]] in film history, not only [[Creator Killer|ending Cimino's career]] but also the [[New Hollywood]] era.
* Most of the [[Monty Python]] crew ([[John Cleese (Creator)|John Cleese]] in particular) consider ''[[Life of Brian]]'' to be their greatest work, in part because it has a central theme and tells a complete story, while their other works are more less a series of sketches. While ''[[Life of Brian]]'' is still very popular with Python fans, many of whom consider it to be the superior film, but ''[[Monty Python and The Holy Grail]]'' has penetrated pop culture to a far greater degree.
* Most of the [[Monty Python]] crew ([[John Cleese (Creator)|John Cleese]] in particular) consider ''[[Life of Brian]]'' to be their greatest work, in part because it has a central theme and tells a complete story, while their other works are more less a series of sketches. While ''[[Life of Brian]]'' is still very popular with Python fans, many of whom consider it to be the superior film, but ''[[Monty Python and The Holy Grail]]'' has penetrated pop culture to a far greater degree.
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* [[Dennis Hopper]]'s attempt to follow ''[[Easy Rider]]'' with an ambitious project he was conceiving for a while, ''The Last Movie'', [[Follow Up Failure|bombed so hard]] that it prevented Hopper from directing again for nearly a decade.
* [[Dennis Hopper]]'s attempt to follow ''[[Easy Rider]]'' with an ambitious project he was conceiving for a while, ''The Last Movie'', [[Follow Up Failure|bombed so hard]] that it prevented Hopper from directing again for nearly a decade.
* Leo McCarey directed two movies of 1937: the light comedy ''[[The Awful Truth (Film)|The Awful Truth]]'' and the cynical drama ''Make Way for Tomorrow''. When he received the Best Director award for ''[[The Awful Truth (Film)|The Awful Truth]]'', he said that he'd been awarded for the wrong movie.
* Leo McCarey directed two movies of 1937: the light comedy ''[[The Awful Truth (Film)|The Awful Truth]]'' and the cynical drama ''Make Way for Tomorrow''. When he received the Best Director award for ''[[The Awful Truth (Film)|The Awful Truth]]'', he said that he'd been awarded for the wrong movie.
* Out of all the actors to play [[Batman]], [[Batman Forever (Film)|Val Kilmer]] has never been very well received. Many loved [[Batman (Film)|Michael Keaton]] and hated [[Batman and Robin (Film)|George Clooney]] but were really just indifferent to Kilmer, finding him [[So Okay Its Average|dull]]. However Batman creator Bob Kane felt that he played the character best (Granted Kane died before [[Dark Knight Trilogy|Christian Bale]] donned the cowl).
* Out of all the actors to play [[Batman]], [[Batman Forever (Film)|Val Kilmer]] has never been very well received. Many loved [[Batman (Film)|Michael Keaton]] and hated [[Batman and Robin (Film)|George Clooney]] but were really just indifferent to Kilmer, finding him [[So Okay It's Average|dull]]. However Batman creator Bob Kane felt that he played the character best (Granted Kane died before [[Dark Knight Trilogy|Christian Bale]] donned the cowl).
* [[David Cronenberg]]'s (arguably) two most popular films, ''[[The Fly]]'' and ''[[A History of Violence]]'', were actually born out of [[Troubled Production]] on two films - he went into the director's chair on the former after he was fired from production on ''[[Total Recall]]'', and in the commentary, says he was "interested in it somewhat" (he didn't write the original script, just some patchwork), and admitted that he didn't like the original 1958 film. The latter film is one which he did [[Money Dear Boy|primarily for the paycheck]] after having to defer his salary on the now-forgotten ''Spider''. Unlike many of the creators here, he has come to appreciate these projects, and talks in interviews about doing a potential companion piece to ''The Fly''.
* [[David Cronenberg]]'s (arguably) two most popular films, ''[[The Fly]]'' and ''[[A History of Violence]]'', were actually born out of [[Troubled Production]] on two films - he went into the director's chair on the former after he was fired from production on ''[[Total Recall]]'', and in the commentary, says he was "interested in it somewhat" (he didn't write the original script, just some patchwork), and admitted that he didn't like the original 1958 film. The latter film is one which he did [[Money, Dear Boy|primarily for the paycheck]] after having to defer his salary on the now-forgotten ''Spider''. Unlike many of the creators here, he has come to appreciate these projects, and talks in interviews about doing a potential companion piece to ''The Fly''.
* [[Roberto Benigni]] has stated in several interviews that he wanted to do his version of ''[[Pinocchio]]'' since he was a child. It was only after the success of ''[[Life Is Beautiful]]'' that he was given the freedom to pursue this project, which was poorly received outside of Italy.
* [[Roberto Benigni]] has stated in several interviews that he wanted to do his version of ''[[Pinocchio]]'' since he was a child. It was only after the success of ''[[Life Is Beautiful]]'' that he was given the freedom to pursue this project, which was poorly received outside of Italy.
* ''[[Sucker Punch]]'' was a pet project of [[Zack Snyder]] that got negative reviews and barely recouped its budget at the box office.
* ''[[Sucker Punch]]'' was a pet project of [[Zack Snyder]] that got negative reviews and barely recouped its budget at the box office.
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* J.R.R. Tolkien wrote ''[[The Lord of the Rings (Literature)|The Lord of the Rings]]'' merely in accordance with popular demand for a sequel to ''[[The Hobbit (Literature)|The Hobbit]]'' - his true labor of love was ''[[The Silmarillion (Literature)|The Silmarillion]]'', which he spent essentially his entire adult life writing and which he was still polishing and rewriting when he died. Partially averted in that, despite using it as a backstory for his published novels, he never really intended ''The Silmarillion'' to be published - writing it was just a leisure activity for him.
* J.R.R. Tolkien wrote ''[[The Lord of the Rings (Literature)|The Lord of the Rings]]'' merely in accordance with popular demand for a sequel to ''[[The Hobbit (Literature)|The Hobbit]]'' - his true labor of love was ''[[The Silmarillion (Literature)|The Silmarillion]]'', which he spent essentially his entire adult life writing and which he was still polishing and rewriting when he died. Partially averted in that, despite using it as a backstory for his published novels, he never really intended ''The Silmarillion'' to be published - writing it was just a leisure activity for him.
* Cecil Day-Lewis ([[Daniel Day Lewis|Daniel]]'s father) was Poet Laureate in the UK and wrote a lot of serious poetry and verse drama, but he also wrote detective novels to pay the bills. Particularly in the 50s and 60s he was far better known for the detective books (written under the name Nicholas Blake), some of which were adapted for film and TV. His poetry was never the equal of contemporaries like Auden or Larkin, and is now largely forgotten, but his detective novels are still regarded as classics by some.
* Cecil Day-Lewis ([[Daniel Day Lewis|Daniel]]'s father) was Poet Laureate in the UK and wrote a lot of serious poetry and verse drama, but he also wrote detective novels to pay the bills. Particularly in the 50s and 60s he was far better known for the detective books (written under the name Nicholas Blake), some of which were adapted for film and TV. His poetry was never the equal of contemporaries like Auden or Larkin, and is now largely forgotten, but his detective novels are still regarded as classics by some.
* Philip Larkin, meanwhile, wanted to be a novelist rather than a poet. His two novels are read only by a few academics, but his poetry remains popular, acclaimed, and even quoted (even if his most-quoted poem is mainly so because of its [[Cluster F Bomb]]).
* Philip Larkin, meanwhile, wanted to be a novelist rather than a poet. His two novels are read only by a few academics, but his poetry remains popular, acclaimed, and even quoted (even if his most-quoted poem is mainly so because of its [[Cluster F-Bomb]]).
* [[Charles Perrault (Creator)|Charles Perrault]] published writings and essays about art that have mostly been forgotten centuries later. But the work he is still most famous for, his fairy tales, are still popular today. Ironically enough Perrault felt ashamed about these childish stories and published them under his son's name.
* [[Charles Perrault (Creator)|Charles Perrault]] published writings and essays about art that have mostly been forgotten centuries later. But the work he is still most famous for, his fairy tales, are still popular today. Ironically enough Perrault felt ashamed about these childish stories and published them under his son's name.
* Same holds for [[The Brothers Grimm (Creator)|The Brothers Grimm]], who considered ''[[Irony|their dictionary]]'' as their greatest achievment. Said dictionary is even in use today by language scientists, but everybody else remembers them for their [[Fairy Tales]].
* Same holds for [[The Brothers Grimm (Creator)|The Brothers Grimm]], who considered ''[[Irony|their dictionary]]'' as their greatest achievment. Said dictionary is even in use today by language scientists, but everybody else remembers them for their [[Fairy Tales]].
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* Pyotr Pavlovich Yershov wrote dozens of poems, plenty of stories, and considered them to be much better than some fairy-tale poem he wrote in simpleton language when he was young. Except today, the poems and stories are all but forgotten, while ''The Little Humpbacked Horse'' earned him a statue for ''composing a folk tale''.
* Pyotr Pavlovich Yershov wrote dozens of poems, plenty of stories, and considered them to be much better than some fairy-tale poem he wrote in simpleton language when he was young. Except today, the poems and stories are all but forgotten, while ''The Little Humpbacked Horse'' earned him a statue for ''composing a folk tale''.
* John Buchan is most remembered for codifying the Spy Genre with ''[[The Thirty Nine Steps]]'', but the novel he considered his best was the historical romance/fantasy novel, ''[[Witch Wood]]''.
* John Buchan is most remembered for codifying the Spy Genre with ''[[The Thirty Nine Steps]]'', but the novel he considered his best was the historical romance/fantasy novel, ''[[Witch Wood]]''.
* At [[The Cavalier Years]] in Spain, money was found in [[Theater]], and glory was found in [[Poetry]]. Miguel de Cervantes wrote a comedy book that didn’t get noticed by the critics. Nonetheless, it was successful enough for the editor kept asking for a [[Continuation]] because [[Money Dear Boy]]. But Cervantes had [[Attention Deficit Creator Disorder]] and wanted to write a lot of projects that would bring him glory, like “Los trabajos de Persiles y Segismunda”. [[Comedy Ghetto|No one took the comedy book seriously, not even Cervantes.]] Maybe that continuation would have never seen the light of day if not for a [[Fan Fiction]] writer that wrote himself the second part, doing the worst insult you can do to an author: A [[Fix Fic]], because Cervantes wrote some characters deserving of a better writer. Cervantes [[Even Better Sequel|decided to write the best second part he could]], and so we have now [[Don Quixote]].
* At [[The Cavalier Years]] in Spain, money was found in [[Theater]], and glory was found in [[Poetry]]. Miguel de Cervantes wrote a comedy book that didn’t get noticed by the critics. Nonetheless, it was successful enough for the editor kept asking for a [[Continuation]] because [[Money, Dear Boy]]. But Cervantes had [[Attention Deficit Creator Disorder]] and wanted to write a lot of projects that would bring him glory, like “Los trabajos de Persiles y Segismunda”. [[Comedy Ghetto|No one took the comedy book seriously, not even Cervantes.]] Maybe that continuation would have never seen the light of day if not for a [[Fan Fiction]] writer that wrote himself the second part, doing the worst insult you can do to an author: A [[Fix Fic]], because Cervantes wrote some characters deserving of a better writer. Cervantes [[Even Better Sequel|decided to write the best second part he could]], and so we have now [[Don Quixote]].
* Doctor [[Arthur Conan Doyle (Creator)|Arthur Conan Doyle]] created a detective character based on an old medical professor whose techniques and insight had always impressed him in order to pay the bills while he worked on the historical epics he loved so much and which he was sure would make his name and reputation as a writer and artist. Unfortunately for Conan Doyle, the detective character was [[Sherlock Holmes]], who became one of the most iconic characters of all time, while Doyle's historical dramas, which he much preferred, are largely forgotten. Doyle [[Creator Backlash|was not happy about this]] -- he even tried killing Holmes off at one point, but fan backlash forced him to do an about-face.
* Doctor [[Arthur Conan Doyle (Creator)|Arthur Conan Doyle]] created a detective character based on an old medical professor whose techniques and insight had always impressed him in order to pay the bills while he worked on the historical epics he loved so much and which he was sure would make his name and reputation as a writer and artist. Unfortunately for Conan Doyle, the detective character was [[Sherlock Holmes]], who became one of the most iconic characters of all time, while Doyle's historical dramas, which he much preferred, are largely forgotten. Doyle [[Creator Backlash|was not happy about this]] -- he even tried killing Holmes off at one point, but fan backlash forced him to do an about-face.


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* Camille Saint-Saëns did not allow ''The Carnival of the Animals'' to be published in his lifetime because he feared it would overshadow his other work (which he considered superior). It didn't work: just try and remember any other pieces by him.
* Camille Saint-Saëns did not allow ''The Carnival of the Animals'' to be published in his lifetime because he feared it would overshadow his other work (which he considered superior). It didn't work: just try and remember any other pieces by him.
* The Turtles wanted to move on from their hits to create ''[[The Beatles|Sgt. Pepper]]/[[The Kinks|Village Green Preservation Society]]'' type works, but the record company insisted on more hit singles in the vein of Happy Together. Their response was Elenore, a lightweight pastiche of their earlier works intended as a [[Take That]], which inevitably went on to become a hit. Their later albums, including one produced by [[The Kinks|Ray Davies]], tend to be overlooked.
* The Turtles wanted to move on from their hits to create ''[[The Beatles|Sgt. Pepper]]/[[The Kinks|Village Green Preservation Society]]'' type works, but the record company insisted on more hit singles in the vein of Happy Together. Their response was Elenore, a lightweight pastiche of their earlier works intended as a [[Take That]], which inevitably went on to become a hit. Their later albums, including one produced by [[The Kinks|Ray Davies]], tend to be overlooked.
* While ''[[Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (Music)|Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' would become renowned as one of the best and most important rock albums ever, the members of [[The Beatles]] themselves were divided on the issue; certainly, [[George Harrison]] and [[John Lennon]], while not exactly disliking it, later admitted they couldn't see what all the fuss was about. Lennon himself preferred ''[[The White Album]]''.
* While ''[[Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Music)|Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band]]'' would become renowned as one of the best and most important rock albums ever, the members of [[The Beatles]] themselves were divided on the issue; certainly, [[George Harrison]] and [[John Lennon]], while not exactly disliking it, later admitted they couldn't see what all the fuss was about. Lennon himself preferred ''[[The White Album]]''.
* During the production of their third album ''Silver Side Up'', Canadian rock band [[Nickelback]] (who were previously known for their alternative-rock sound) crafted another album of hard-hitting songs that they believed would finally bring them mainstream success. However, they also cranked out a song in twenty minutes on a lark to fill out the album's running time. That song, "How You Remind Me", became the group's biggest hit, and came to define their musical output since then. It's also been used by critics to show how the band was a musical punchline in the rock world.
* During the production of their third album ''Silver Side Up'', Canadian rock band [[Nickelback]] (who were previously known for their alternative-rock sound) crafted another album of hard-hitting songs that they believed would finally bring them mainstream success. However, they also cranked out a song in twenty minutes on a lark to fill out the album's running time. That song, "How You Remind Me", became the group's biggest hit, and came to define their musical output since then. It's also been used by critics to show how the band was a musical punchline in the rock world.
* When [[The Who]] were in the process of recording ''[[Tommy]]'', Pete Townshend slapped together a [[Power Pop]] ballad with no real relation to the story in order to get the attention of New York Times music critic Nik Cohn, who was known to be a fan of certain arcade novelties. That song was "Pinball Wizard", which easily became the most recognizable song off the album.
* When [[The Who]] were in the process of recording ''[[Tommy]]'', Pete Townshend slapped together a [[Power Pop]] ballad with no real relation to the story in order to get the attention of New York Times music critic Nik Cohn, who was known to be a fan of certain arcade novelties. That song was "Pinball Wizard", which easily became the most recognizable song off the album.
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* Matt Groening created ''[[The Simpsons]]'' hastily in the lobby of James L. Brooks' office, where he originally planned to pitch ''[[Life in Hell]]'' (at the time his most notable work, which had been running for around 10 years in newspapers) as a shorts series. He chose not to because he wanted to keep the rights to ''Life In Hell''. Now few people know ''Life In Hell'', and ''The Simpsons'' is considered his Magnum Opus.
* Matt Groening created ''[[The Simpsons]]'' hastily in the lobby of James L. Brooks' office, where he originally planned to pitch ''[[Life in Hell]]'' (at the time his most notable work, which had been running for around 10 years in newspapers) as a shorts series. He chose not to because he wanted to keep the rights to ''Life In Hell''. Now few people know ''Life In Hell'', and ''The Simpsons'' is considered his Magnum Opus.
** Groening once [http://animatedtv.about.com/od/mattgroening/tp/groeningtop10.htm made a list] of his favorite ''Simpsons'' episodes, and choose mostly examples from the first and eighth season, while many fans consider the third to seventh season to be the show's Golden Age. The first season is even generally disliked by many viewers because the show was [[Early Installment Weirdness|still searching for its form]] in those days. Many episodes from the first season are too slow, not particularly funny and even uncharacteristic.
** Groening once [http://animatedtv.about.com/od/mattgroening/tp/groeningtop10.htm made a list] of his favorite ''Simpsons'' episodes, and choose mostly examples from the first and eighth season, while many fans consider the third to seventh season to be the show's Golden Age. The first season is even generally disliked by many viewers because the show was [[Early Installment Weirdness|still searching for its form]] in those days. Many episodes from the first season are too slow, not particularly funny and even uncharacteristic.
* ''[[Family Guy]]'' has an [[In Universe]] example with Brian Griffin. His labor-of-love novel, ''Faster than the Speed of Love,'' becomes a massive bomb due to its being an incredibly trite [[Cliche Storm]] that unintentionally rips off the ''[[Iron Eagle (Film)|Iron Eagle]]'' series. After he trashes schlocky self-help books and says anyone could make one, Stewie [[Let's See You Do Better|challenges him to do so]], so he throws together ''Wish It, Want It, Do It,'' which becomes a smash hit.
* ''[[Family Guy]]'' has an [[In Universe]] example with Brian Griffin. His labor-of-love novel, ''Faster than the Speed of Love,'' becomes a massive bomb due to its being an incredibly trite [[Cliché Storm]] that unintentionally rips off the ''[[Iron Eagle (Film)|Iron Eagle]]'' series. After he trashes schlocky self-help books and says anyone could make one, Stewie [[Let's See You Do Better|challenges him to do so]], so he throws together ''Wish It, Want It, Do It,'' which becomes a smash hit.