Marvel vs. Capcom 3/YMMV: Difference between revisions

** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3k5WcicY_0 "Heroes vs Heralds"] mode, the mode the dev team was talking about that would change the way you play the game. Very similar in application to the Gems System from ''[[Street Fighter X Tekken]]'' (and, to a lesser extent, System Direction from ''[[Street Fighter III]]: Third Strike''), the mode grants various abilities via collectible cards (invisibility, immunity to projectiles, super armor for both point characters ''and'' Assists, stun from Assist attacks, cancelling specials with other specials, etc.). The highlight of these? ''[[Street Fighter III|Parrying.]]''<br /><br />It's also worth noting that the "Heroes vs Heralds" mode got a much warmer reception from fans than the Gems System from ''SFxT''. Why? ''It's a separate mode''. And it's free.

** There's also the outcry that ''X himself'' was disconfirmed, with many of his fans proclaiming that it was finally time for Capcom to give X his due.<br /><br />And [[It Got Worse]] when X was inserted... as an alternate costume for Zero. Cue rage from the fans who wanted X in as his own unique character, and a smaller portion who wanted his [[Mega Man Zero]] costume.

** There's also the exclusion of the original Mega Man, with the devs saying that they don't want to put him in the game due to the previous game's mediocre moveset as well as representing the series with the aforementioned Zero. Many people have accused the devs of laziness and hypocrisy, due to the fact they completely changed Jill's moveset, and wondering why the devs couldn't apply this same treatment to him. <ref>It should be noted that Jill's moveset is changed because they use RE5 Jill, not the RE1 one (the one in [[Mv C 2]]). Still, it's widely seen as a weak excuse.</ref>

** And, if you watch tournament replays, be ready to see Dante on it. And this after he's been [[Nerf|Nerfed]] in Ultimate, and hes still overused.

* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|Complaining About Characters You Don't Know]]: Some of Marvel's newer reveals have been drawing heat from the fans. Particularly telling are those who gripe about X-23 and She-Hulk being nothing more than [[Distaff Counterpart|female copies]] of their better-known counterparts--which shows that they didn't bother watching the two characters' debut trailers, which shows how '''completely different''' they are. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

** The Marvel and Capcom characters introduced side-by-side in every trailer have a theme and/or similarities:<br /><br />Ryu and Wolverine: Both of whom have cases of [[Wolverine Publicity]], appearing in many spinoff medias, and being the "icons" of both the ''[[Street Fighter]]'' and ''[[X-Men]]'' series, respectively. They can also be considered the unofficial "icon" for both Capcom, Marvel, and the whole ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom]]'' crossover series. Both also [[Spirited Competitor|love]] [[Blood Knight|fighting]], have their own honor code, and both are [[Determinator|very determined to achieve their goals.]]<br /><br />Morrigan and Iron Man: The former is a [[Horny Devils]], the latter is a [[Casanova]]. Overlaps with [[Crossover Ship]]. Both also uses jet booster to fly (although Morrigan can also use her wings, she just prefers turning them into jet boosters).<br /><br />Chris and Hulk: The former is trained to fight bioweapons, and the latter can be considered one of them. There is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xuXkVzBdJQ the Chris + Boulder RE5 video]. Chris punched [[Memetic Mutation|that boulder]] into the lava. Hulk's Gamma Crush uses a flaming boulder.<br /><br />Dante and Deadpool: Both are [[Crazy Awesome]] sword-wielding, gun-toting, wisecracking red-clad mercenaries with a [[Healing Factor]] whose names starts with D. [[Not So Different]] indeed. Their themes are also the only ones which are rock arrangements with vocals. Both also have two similar hypers: Million Dollars and Devil Must Die for Dante, and Happy-Happy Trigger and Cuttin' Time for Deadpool.<br /><br />Felicia and Captain America: Both love freedom, are [[Eagle Land|eaglelanders]] as well, (moreso with Cap) and they both happen to be the most pure-hearted of their respective series.<br /><br />Chun-Li and Doctor Doom: Both characters possesses deep love for their parents (her father for Chun-li, and his mother for Doom).<br /><br />Trish and Super-Skrull: Both were made to impersonate certain traits of people related to the protagonist of their series. Trish was made to look like Dante's mom and has a weapon of Sparda's, while Super-Skrull, of course, copies the powers of the [[Fantastic Four]].<br /><br />Amaterasu and Thor: Both are [[Physical God|Physical Gods]] and share an [[Elemental Powers]]: [[Shock and Awe|lightning]]. If you take into account actual [[Japanese Mythology]], Thor could be likened (somewhat) to Susanoo, Amaterasu's brother and the Shinto god of sea and storms.<br /><br />Viewtiful Joe and Dormammu: they both get more power from their respective realms (MovieLand and the Dark Dimension.) Both also [[Playing with Fire|play with fire.]]<br /><br />Tron Bonne and X-23: Both are [[Breakout Character|Breakout Characters]] from their respective series. Both are also [[Anti-Hero|Antiheroines]], and both has their "close relatives" appearing in this game (Teisel Bonne as a cameo and the Servbots for the former, and her "father" Wolverine for the latter).<br /><br />Wesker and Spider-Man: Both are <s>mutants</s> mutates (Wesker with T-Virus, Spider-Man with radioactive spider sting). Wesker's Phantom Dance super is also quite similar to Spider-Man's Maximum Spider super (it was even given the [[Fan Nickname]] "Maximum Wesker").<br /><br />Arthur and M.O.D.O.K.: [[More Than Meets the Eye|They are surprisingly dangerous compared to their more serious looking enemies]]. They also have a lot of projectile/laser moves.<br /><br />Spencer and Magneto: [[Humans Are Bastards|They have been victims of human bastardness]]. [[Those Wacky Nazis|And have had encounters with a certain Fuhrer.]]<br /><br />Zero and She-Hulk: Both act as law enforcers (Zero being a Maverick hunter and She-Hulk being a lawyer). Both are [[Breakout Character|Breakout Characters]] as well. Less noticeably, both have [[Gag Boobs|green tracts of land.]]<br /><br />C. Viper and Storm: Both use some [[Elemental Powers]], and they share one element: [[Shock and Awe|lightning]]. There's also a "natural vs. artificial" theme within them--Viper uses gadgets and Storm uses inherent powers. Both also are dark-skinned with [[Dark-Skinned Redhead|unique]] [[Dark-Skinned Blond|hair.]]<br /><br />Haggar and Phoenix: Both go on angry bad-guy-beating sprees when their loved ones get hurt--though Phoenix's are a lot more dangerous than Haggar's.<br /><br />[[Unlockable Content|Akuma and Taskmaster]]: Both are morally dubious proficient combat experts, though Taskmaster is more of a [[Combat Pragmatist]] who does it [[Only in It For the Money|for the money]] while Akuma fights with [[Blue and Orange Morality|a sense of some honor]] and [[Blood Knight|does it out of his love of battle]]. They also have some moves from other fighters; Akuma being a pure-yet-overpowered [[Shotoclone]] and Taskmaster having the moves of several Marvel characters.<br /><br />[[Unlockable Content|Hsien-Ko and Sentinel]]: Both are hunters of beings thought to be threats to humanity. Hsien-Ko hunts monsters and demons in order to find the one responsible for killing her mother, while Sentinel units are designed to hunt down mutants. They also both fight using hidden weapons. They also have a blue and purple color scheme. (Hsien-Ko has her default scheme and Sentinel has his/it's ''X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse'' scheme)<br /><br />[[Downloadable Content|Jill and Shuma-Gorath]]: Like Chris and Hulk above, Shuma is a [[Eldritch Abomination|monstrous creature]] and Jill's job is to defeat them. {{spoiler|Though this time, both of them are on the same side, or so we think}}.<br /><br />Firebrand and Ghost Rider: They both have their own demonic powers, and [[Pyrokinesis]] in particular. The former is mostly seen as a force of evil while the latter is the opposite.<br /><br />Strider Hiryu and Hawkeye: Both are acrobatic fighters with multiple weapons in supply and wear purple. The former is more silent and to-the-point while the latter is brash and cocky.<br /><br />Doctor Strange and Nemesis: (Arcane) Magic vs. (Mad) Science. Both also bind their opponents in their Level 3 hypers before destroying them.<br /><br />Vergil and Iron Fist: Classic [[Red Oni, Blue Oni]] comparison -- cold and calculating Vergil against the (literally!) fiery Iron Fist. Both are connected to supernatural powers through a legacy. Vergil uses an immortal weapon; Iron Fist ''is'' an immortal weapon. Both also have Asian-themed fighting styles (Vergil with his Iaido and Iron Fist with his Kung-Fu).<br /><br />Phoenix Wright and Nova: A shared focus on justice. As a contrast, while Nova has [[Combo-Platter Powers]], Phoenix Wright... [[Muggle|doesn't.]]<br /><br />Frank West and Rocket Raccoon: Both's appearances here are a little [[Fish Out of Water|out of place]] compared to most of the other characters, and are both known for using weapons... lots of weapons.

** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9OqbiRLaho opening movie] of ''Ultimate'' had all of these rivalries scrambled and re-done to include new characters.<br /><br />Ryu and Nova: Both have a strong sense of heroism and are good at firing energy blasts. Both also have a [[Kamehame Hadoken]] as one of their hypers.<br /><br />Wolverine and Vergil: Both are (or, in case of Wolverine, was) samurai who have a strong sense of honor. They tend to win fights by slicing their enemies and both have [[Healing Factor|healing factors]]. Wolverine has the Adamantium claws which is said as the unbreakable metal; Vergil's Yamato is able to cut anything, thus giving the theme of [[Unstoppable Force Meets Immovable Object]]. Also, Wolverine uses savage brawling while Vergil uses refined swordmanship. In gameplay terms, they both have a [[Super Mode]].<br /><br />Hulk and Haggar: Both are big hulking bruisers. There's also their respective quotes to each other in the game itself, emphasizing their rivalry.<br /><br />Dante and Ghost Rider: Both are demon-hunting badasses. While Dante is cocky and loves to crack jokes, Ghost Rider is cold, serious, and intimidating. This is also shown in Dante's vanilla ''MvC3'' ending.<br /><br />Morrigan and Dr. Strange: Strange deals with abominations from other dimensions; Morrigan is just one of them.<br /><br />Strider Hiryu and Spider-Man: In the artwork for the online re-release of ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 2|MvC2]]'', the two were portrayed as rivals. Both are also agile characters, and red and blue (Spidey's default color) results in purple (Hiryu's default color).<br /><br />Wesker and Phoenix: Both are "gods" -- Wesker just claims that he's one, while Phoenix has the Phoenix Force sealed inside her.<br /><br />Nemesis and X-23: Both wear black leather. The former is an experimental zombie mutant while the latter is an experimental clone mutant, and both are trained to hunt people.<br /><br />Phoenix Wright and Deadpool: Both use speech bubbles as attacks.<br /><br />Hawkeye and Captain American vs Firebrand and an army of Red Arremers<br /><br />Spencer and Iron Man: Both are tech-themed.<br /><br />She-Hulk and Jill: Both are brutally powerful females.<br /><br />Thor and Trish: Both wield lightning and have blonde hair.<br /><br />Amaterasu and Dormammu: Both manipulate reality, are gods, and wield fire.<br /><br />Iron Fist and Chun-Li: Both are well-studied martial artists. Chun-Li is often focused on kicks while Iron Fist is often focused on punches.<br /><br />Rocket Raccoon and Viewtiful Joe: Both are two of the smallest members of the cast and use [[BFG|BFGs]].<br /><br />Zero and M.O.D.O.K: Both are mechanical characters that utilize laser weaponry.<br /><br />Sentinel and Tron: Both are highly brutish in their style, are tech-themed, and have robot assistants.<br /><br />Crimson Viper and Frank West vs Super-Skrull: Both are humans with unorthodox fighting styles against an alien with an unorthodox collection of super-powers<br /><br />Hsien-Ko and Taskmaster: Both are weapon-freaks.<br /><br />Akuma and Storm: The power of Gaia versus the power of the Shin-Goku-Gatsu. Both are also dark-skinned.<br /><br />Chris and Felicia vs Shuma-Gorath: Chris and Felicia deal in a regular basis with supernatural threats, such as Shuma-Gorath.<br /><br />Arthur and Doctor Doom: Arthur mistakes Doom for a knight in the game.<br /><br />Magneto fighting Galactus alone: Both are/were the final bosses of their debut game.

** Iron Man and Morrigan gets paired with many characters, and between themselves.<br /><br />Morrigan has been shipped with [[Iron Man]] (by virtue of [[Iron Man]]'s winquote and the first intro movie of vanilla MvC3) Chris (by way of Chris's [[Take My Hand]] moment in the first intro movie and the final picture in the fourth intro movie) Deadpool (by way of a hilarious scene in the first intro movie) Dante (which ''predates'' this game by a margin of a few years) Shuma-Gorath, (she appears to be... fond of Shuma's tentacles) and Wolverine. (By way of his ending)<br /><br />Iron Man has been shipped with almost all of the women, especially Morrigan (by virtue of the already mentioned intro movies) C. Viper (by way of his pre-fight quote) and even Tron Bonne! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRyLDZ8VHmo A web animation] takes it to the logical extreme.

** Hulk/X-23 and Deadpool/Dante, claiming both pairs look dreamily into each other's eyes. [[May-December Romance|Despite the fact that X-23 is about 16 and Hulk is some vague but considerably older age.]]

** There's also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NgXDXcE2o another glitch], [[Fan Nickname|dubbed "Quicksilver"]], in honor of Dante's [[Time Stands Still]]-controlling Style in ''DMC3'', found by [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmKedCkJI3Y Rogueyoshi.]<br /><br />It involves Dante calling in a THC (Team Hyper Combo/Cross-over Combination) during a style cancel using Stinger (or Wild Stomp). This freezes the game until Dante returns to a neutral state, meaning that if a skilled Dante can loop his style cancels, the glitch remains in effect until he pretty much whittles away the health of the poor soul on the receiving end of this (if the opponent is blocking, they ''can'' eventually escape by using a Team Assist Counter). Like the Doom Hidden Missile glitch, [[Game Breaking Bug|doing this for too long eventually causes the game to crash.]]

** Likewise, Shuma-Gorath's Level 3 Hyper starts with a nasty closeup of his face [[More Teeth Than the Osmond Family|getting all bitey]], and then finishes by teleporting the opponent inside of Shuma-Gorath, who now looks like a colored balloon with an eye sticking out.<br /><br />In ''Ultimate'', with his [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlownGQ3yeo new costume], it's all made creepier with the [[Extra Eyes]].

** Oh guys, you have not seen the Level 3 hyper of Ghost Rider have you? <ref> ''[[Brown Note|It's his Penance Stare.]]'' [[Sarcasm Mode|Have]] [[Nightmare Face|a good]] [[Death Glare|night's]] [[Mind Rape|sleep.]]</ref>

** Akuma's Zankukyaku, the multihitting version of Ryu's Senpuukyaku that is vital to his [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rfci2YN38M infinite set-ups], later [[Nerf|nerfed]]. There's also his usual Shun Goku Satsu (or Raging Demon, if you prefer), and in this game, it comes ''even faster'' than in the ''[[Street Fighter]]'' games plus it's almost completely invincible allowing you to just plow through any attack the other fighter brings out with it.

** Fans were preparing to [http://www.mvc3bingo.com/ complain about the same game they've been waiting for a decade]. Complaints went from assist characters taking too much damage, missing "important" characters (despite most of the requests not being important to the Marvel universe since [[The Nineties]] or--in the case of Capcom characters--it not having any released game since [[The Nineties]]), the roster size being smaller than ''MvC2'' (despite half of that game's cast consisting of "clone" characters and those few really cared about), its combo-easiness compared to ''MvC2'' (despite there being several infinite combos), that the game takes little to no skill, to trivial stuff like Deadpool's lines, slight changes in movesets, and the game '''not''' being ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 2]]'' running on MT Framework.