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***** Yeah, and ''your'' argument is predicated on the idea that TIM would never tell you the truth. Read what I said again. It '''could''' be an elaborate deception on TIM's part, but it could '''also''' be the unvarnished truth. Either way, we (that is, you) don't know enough to say they're "assholes, period".

** Not to mention that a lot of real life criminal and terrorist organizations do good things to maintain face. Villainy doesn't preclude acts of kindness any more than doing so morally balances out that villainy. You can save the world all you want but you're still kidnapping kids and experimenting on them.

*** I call bull. TIM had to know. When you unlock EDI, she specifically tells you that The Illusive Man likes to maintain personal oversight of all cerberus projects and that no one cell is aware of what the other does. Miranda is telling the truth when she says she didn't know what was done to Jack. There is no way that with the amount of resources involved to create the super biotic that is Jack, that TIM didn't know about it. All the evidence that is left is set to not implicate the main organisation but condemns the rogue elements. No more than a dozen projects at a time. Any more than that, and it stretches his multitasking ability.

** Nope. They're evil no matter what you say or do.

 

== Miranda's father is a wannabe [[Robert A. Heinlein|Lazarus Long]]. ==

** Somewhat supported by the fact that her expressions when she discusses it look as though she's repressing a great deal of disgust. Plus, her father apparently dictated every part of her looks... as if he was creating the perfect wife. Too bad she couldn't tell this to Niket.

*** Possible, but we have no direct evidence of sulex bastard (it's not like nonconsensual incest is the ONLY be explainable by Mr. Lawson being your run-of-the-mill God Complex bastard (it's not like nonconsensual incest is the ONLY thing he would have done that would have warrented disgust from Miranda). That said, it is VERY disturbing.

== As a follow-up to the above theory, {{spoiler|Oriana is actually Miranda's ''daughter''.}} ==

* {{spoiler|Miranda tells us that Oriana is genetically identical to her, and that she was grown as a "replacement" for her. When we finally meet Oriana, she looks similar to Miranda, but isn't identical. There are also a few subtle differences you can hear about if you convince Miranda to introduce herself. At some point "Mr. Lawson" figured out that Miranda would never be what he designed her to be, so he decided to go ahead and create his dynasty without her permission. Oriana is a "traditional" test-tube baby and isn't genetically engineered by Miranda. As for how Miranda doesn't know this? Lies and misinformation spread by her father, or just flat-out conjecture on her part. It's likely that she came for Oriana ''after'' she escaped from her father - she says she was raised without any friends, yet there is Niket. She escaped her father and spent time on the streets where she met Niket, then learnt that her father had created another daughter, went back for Oriana and went to Cerberus.}}

** Jossed by the ''Lair of the Shadow Broker'' DLC. {{spoiler|Miranda's dossier includes correspondence from a doctor indicating a benign neoplasm that prevents her from conceiving. Since "adoption" is mentioned as mentioned as alternative, but not surrogacy, it's likely that the condition involves her ovaries preventing her from producing eggs. So no babies, test tube or otherwise.}}

 

== After ''[[Mass Effect 3]]'' is finished, Bioware will publish an [[Limited Special Collectors' Ultimate Edition|Anniversary Edition/Director's Cut]] of all the three games. ==

* ''[[Mass Effect (video game)|Mass Effect]]'' and ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'' graphically upgraded to the level of the last game, and all the content that had to be left out due to time or other constraints, such as the original plans for Therum as a fully fledged world on part with Feros and Noveria, restored. Wishful thinking rather than [[Wild Mass Guessing]] maybe, but if Bioware really reads this page, best to have the idea on display. And after all they did do something similar with ''[[Jade Empire]]''...

 

== ''[[Mass Effect]]'' is really a documentary sent back in time ==

* In the late 22nd century, the Reaper wars will push humanity to the brink of extinction. Using mass effect fields for temporal distortion, human survivors sent ''[[Mass Effect]]'' back to our time in order to inspire us to explore space, and also to warn us against the Reaper threat. Unfortunately, the games are not having the intended effect, as space funding is facing major cuts.

 

* ...And it will conform to as many "Hard-SF" conventions as it can without becoming one big [[Mind Screw]]. Yes, this is wish-fulfillment on my part. But seriously, how can they create such a rich codex with so many sections on ship-combat and tactics and ''not'' somehow put the player behind the controls at some point?

** For that matter, might as well give us control of Joker again for an [[Unexpected Gameplay Change]] and let us ''[[Squee|pilot the Normandy!]]''

* Yet the potential of the station in the {{spoiler|core}} was unknown to anyone else. Therefore, upon getting to the station, were torn apart by defense mechanisms.

* Shepard had "survived" an attack by the Collectors already, knowing what their potential is. As shown in the beginning of the game, the Normandy {{spoiler|meets the same fate as the ships that made it to the station in the Core}}.

* Actually, the SR2 was ''not'' strong enough withstand the Collector's attacks, at least not as it originally was. If the Collectors had launched another surprise attack in-game, the second Normandy would have ended up just like the first. It was only after EDI was unshackled as a co-pilot, the guns/armor/shields were upgraded, and the element of surprise was removed that the Normandy was able to defeat the Collector's ship without severe damage. With just one element missing, the ship could, at best, force the Collectors into a draw.