Mass Effect 3/WMG: Difference between revisions

** 'You get a punch in the face! *PAWNCH* And ''you'' get a punch in the face! *PAWNCH* And ''YOU'' get a punch in the face!' - Incidentally, if this WMG ever happened like that, it would end up on the [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] page at least three times, as well as the [[Crowning Moment of Funny]] page at least twice. Somehow, it would also end up on the [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]] page, due to a very confused (or disturbed) troper.

*** One of the women Shepard punches realizes what a jerk she's been to her family (who's in the audience), says she's sorry, and they all have a teary-eyed apology session on live, galactic TV.

== There will be a [[Knights of the Old Republic|"meatbag"]] reference in ''ME3''. ==

* Probably by Legion, something along the lines of "Why would a form of media that was [[Take That Us|clearly made by organics]] use such a derogatory term for them?"

** No...have Legion glitch out. Then we'd get this.

{{quote| [[Hilarious Outtakes|"I don't need anything else. I have big balls. In less than five minutes we will reach Vader's Death Star. George Bush will be released into the atmosphere, ensuring complete global masturbation. Oh fuck it! We'll do it live!"]]}}

* '''This Is What Will Never Happen Again... Us''': Start [[Old Save Bonus|or maintain]] a relationship with Kaidan

* '''Now We're All Sons Of Bitches''': Set off a nuke.

* '''Ain't We Just?''': Save a planet [[Big Damn Heroes|just in the nick of time.]]

* '''The Hero of a Thousand Words''': Across all games played, finish a Paragon career (full blue bars).

== You won't need to destroy the Reapers entirely. ==

Consider: The Citadel relay is capable of transmitting over distances far beyond those of a normal relay. The existance of biotics also shows that diffuse nodes of element zero, like, say, the mass relay network, can be used in concert to create an extremely powerful overall effect. The sum total of the relay network could be used to "Supercharge" the Citadel relay, allowing intergalactic travel. All the races of the galaxy have to do is destroy ENOUGH Reapers to make it more efficient for them to simply migrate into a different galaxy and begin the cycle of extinction there, rather than fight out a costly war.

* You deal with all the Reapers.

****** And why would it matter that Joker treats ManShep and FemShep the same? Bioware have already said there will be same sex relationships in [[ME 3]] for all we know Joker may be bisexual.

* When asked, [[Bio Ware]] responded, "you have to play it to see it." So, maybe?

* This troper thought it would be impossible for the same reason Wrex and Grunt aren't romanceable: someone's going to need hospitalization afterward.

** Joker would need hospitalization if he was in a romance with fem!Shepard even without brittle bone disease.

** A vorcha, to further subvert the [[Planet of Hats]] trope.

*** Specifically as the [[Team Pet]]

*** Perhaps an Alliance political officer to keep Shepard in check?

** One of Many and Safiya from Mask of the Betrayer will show up. They will see Jack & Legion, realize that they are the distaff counterparts of each other. 'Splosion.

== Saren will be the hidden party member of ''Mass Effect 3'' and it will be possible for Shepard to redeem him ==

* Despite being killed at the end of the first game, Cerberus was able to bring back Shepard from the dead after the Commander's death. Perhaps the Reapers do the same for Saren, and he may initially be an antagonist. At some point in the game, however, the option will be either to execute him again or to make Saren a party member; he'll be the 'hidden' character, much like Legion was. Depending on how Saren died in the first game, his membership in the party could be handled in a couple different ways. For example, if he died in a straight-up firefight with Shepard, he'll still be the evil, sadistic murdering psychopath he was as ME1's [[The Dragon|Dragon]], but will join up with Shepard for revenge against the Reapers once he discovers that they never intended to spare any organic life like he originally thought. If, however, Shepard was able to convince Saren that he had become indoctrinated and caused him to commit suicide, Saren will instead become [[The Atoner]] and attempt to redeem himself after a lifetime of committing unspeakable acts of evil by helping to protect all the life in the galaxy by defeating the Reapers. The other way is that he will start off still as evil as he was in the first game no matter how you dealt with him, but the option will exist for a Paragon Shepard to redeem Saren over the course of the game. There is precedent for the first game's [[Big Bad]] becoming a redeemable party member; see [[Scary Black Man|Sarevok]] in Throne of Bhaal, which was also a [[Bio Ware]] game. And it also seems like Mass Effect isn't quite done with Saren considering he is name-dropped quite a bit in the sequel, and that they went to the trouble to make use of his image for the Kasumi DLC. And if there are party members in Mass Effect 3 we've already met in the first two games, well, that could very easily include Saren.

*** They could always weaken him in certain ways. Maybe have him lose his biotics as a side effect of his revival.

*** Removing his biotics would sort of turn him into another Garrus, though, wouldn't it, a turian with tech abilities and is a sniper (I believe in the prequel novel, there is a scene that establishes Saren is a sniper, but I'm prepared to be wrong about that)? Wait, that's it! They'll do it like they did {{spoiler|Loghain}} in ''[[Dragon Age]]''. You CAN recruit Saren, but if you do, a party-member who's been with you since the beginning, and may even be your lover, will not be able to forgive that, or you, and leave forever. But of course, since Saren does everything Garrus did, party balance isn't affected {{spoiler|just like how Loghain takes over from Alistair}}. This of course assumes Garrus lived at the end of ''Mass Effect 2''. If not, then you can recruit Saren with minor fuss.

== Legion is Saren ==

* Nope. Legion is simply Legion.

[[The Angry Joe Show (Web Video)|Angry Joe]] spells it out pretty clearly [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E&feature=g-u-u&context=G22d6f7fFUAAAAAAAAAA here]. The reasoning basically boils down to the massive number of inconsistencies with the setting and plot holes that show up at the last moment, and the sudden massive change in Sheperd's personality. My guess would be that it's the same guy who wrote Deception. Also the fact that Bioware had previously assured fans that they ''would not'' have this ''exact'' ending.

* What inconsistencies and plot holes, exactly? Personally I saw no such thing in the ending. Though it's pretty explicit that it has been cut down from a much more extensive ending, either because Bioware wanted to preserve mystery behind certain events, or because the ending was leaked and it had to be tweaked at the last minute. The only serious problem is the lack of variety concerning the decisions you made throughout the series

*** The beam doesn't hit Shepard head on. S/he just gets blasted by the shockwave. The chatter isn't aware of anyone getting in the beam, but the people on the other side of radio are hardly omniscient. Shepard was unconscious for a long time, so many things could have happened in the meantime. Joker isn't outrunning the energy of the Crucible, but the collapse of the Relay Network; he implicitly made a jump right as the system was collapsing, and it's not going smoothly. Presumably the Normandy picked Shepard's people up during his/her unconsciousness to prepare for attack or retreat when Shepard calls for it. Yes, it leaves many things for implication instead of spelling them out, but there are no major inconsistencies that can't be explained by Shepard's unknown period of unconsciousness.

**** So Joker had enough time to go and pick up the squad members who were right beside Shepard running for the beam, then deserted the battle at Earth and used the relay just as the crucible destroyed it. It's not like Joker and the squad are ardently loyal to Shepard, right?

== [[Bio Ware]] skimmed through this page when creating the ending. ==

Looking back on some of these WMG's before the game came out, I noticed an awful lot of similarities between some theories about the ending {{spoiler|(the Relay Network being destroyed, the Citadel being a Reaper itself, the story about "The Shepard", etc.)}} and the actual ending. Either it's a massive coincidence, or [[Bio Ware]] [[One of Us|hires an inordinate number of tropers as its employees]], or they looked at our ideas and picked some of them.

* You done goofed!