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* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: Zenkichi- A person only motivated by a [[Subordinate Excuse]] and following Medaka's justice, or a truly heroic character who simply gets stressed with the burden of helping people? Or Both?
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: Zenkichi- A person only motivated by a [[Subordinate Excuse]] and following Medaka's justice, or a truly heroic character who simply gets stressed with the burden of helping people? Or Both?
* [[Anti Sue]]: Class -13 and the rest of the -Abnormals; Combining [[Blessed With Suck]] with [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity]].
* [[Anti-Sue]]: Class -13 and the rest of the -Abnormals; Combining [[Blessed With Suck]] with [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity]].
* [[Arc Fatigue]]: The fighting-manga arc has been going on pretty much nonstop since the series came close to being canceled (see [[Genre Shift]] below). They stopped for a single chapter, if only for exposition to introduce the new set of villains, then jumped right back in.
* [[Arc Fatigue]]: The fighting-manga arc has been going on pretty much nonstop since the series came close to being canceled (see [[Genre Shift]] below). They stopped for a single chapter, if only for exposition to introduce the new set of villains, then jumped right back in.
* [[Ass Pull]]: ''Lots''. Especially with combat -- [[Tropes Are Not Bad|not that it was handled badly.]] That is, until {{spoiler|Naze Youka being Medaka's never-mentioned-before older sister Kujira.}} There are hints (her eyes being the same as {{spoiler|Medaka's and Maguro's }} being the main one) but only subtle ones, and it still feels like a huge stretch.
* [[Ass Pull]]: ''Lots''. Especially with combat -- [[Tropes Are Not Bad|not that it was handled badly.]] That is, until {{spoiler|Naze Youka being Medaka's never-mentioned-before older sister Kujira.}} There are hints (her eyes being the same as {{spoiler|Medaka's and Maguro's }} being the main one) but only subtle ones, and it still feels like a huge stretch.
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* [[Designated Protagonist Syndrome]]: Both Medaka, and to a lesser extent Zenkichi suffered from this
* [[Designated Protagonist Syndrome]]: Both Medaka, and to a lesser extent Zenkichi suffered from this
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Kumagawa
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Kumagawa
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Aka Aoki. She's been in three chapters, has barely moved from one spot, and didn't even fight. There is already a whole bunch of fanart of her on pixiv. Probably because she's a [[Hello Nurse|nurse]] though...
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Aka Aoki. She's been in three chapters, has barely moved from one spot, and didn't even fight. There is already a whole bunch of fanart of her on pixiv. Probably because she's a [[Hello, Nurse!|nurse]] though...
** Kumagawa himself. He starts out as the second [[Big Bad]], and pretty much Medaka's Arch Enemy and complete opposite. His dissonant serenity and overall humor arguably make his character more interesting than Medaka's. And having a {{spoiler|[[Heel Face Turn|status change]]}} doesn't deter his status in the slightest.
** Kumagawa himself. He starts out as the second [[Big Bad]], and pretty much Medaka's Arch Enemy and complete opposite. His dissonant serenity and overall humor arguably make his character more interesting than Medaka's. And having a {{spoiler|[[Heel Face Turn|status change]]}} doesn't deter his status in the slightest.
*** In the second [[Shounen Jump]] popularity poll contest, Kumagawa won with almost four thousand votes. The second place holder (Medaka) did not even reach one thousand votes. And for a while he was either played as [[The Dreaded]] or the [[Big Bad]].
*** In the second [[Shounen Jump]] popularity poll contest, Kumagawa won with almost four thousand votes. The second place holder (Medaka) did not even reach one thousand votes. And for a while he was either played as [[The Dreaded]] or the [[Big Bad]].
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** Subverted in that the entirety of the -13 class has similar, extremely bad "-Abnormalities", such as the ability to rot anything and everything they touch -- including buildings. A character even specifically states [[Contrived Coincidence|the -13 class is basically Medaka's perfect enemy]], since she can't even approach some of them without absorbing mental illness or [[Blessed With Suck]], which she would then take [[Up to Eleven]].
** Subverted in that the entirety of the -13 class has similar, extremely bad "-Abnormalities", such as the ability to rot anything and everything they touch -- including buildings. A character even specifically states [[Contrived Coincidence|the -13 class is basically Medaka's perfect enemy]], since she can't even approach some of them without absorbing mental illness or [[Blessed With Suck]], which she would then take [[Up to Eleven]].
** Taken [[Up to Eleven]] with Ajimu Najimi, who has several quadrillion superpowers. It's as absurd as it sounds, intentionally so.
** Taken [[Up to Eleven]] with Ajimu Najimi, who has several quadrillion superpowers. It's as absurd as it sounds, intentionally so.
* [[I Knew It]]: That Misogi would {{spoiler|would join the student council as Vice-President.}}
* [[I Knew It!]]: That Misogi would {{spoiler|would join the student council as Vice-President.}}
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: The true nature of the Minus class. To quote one Minus: "Do you know the taste of gas that your parent makes you swallow? How about the taste of licking a perverted teacher's shoe? The taste of sand that your classmates make you swallow? At least you know the taste of a newspaper that was the only food you could obtain? Of course you don't know, because you guys are the happy ones. But those kinds of tastes are just how it is for us, Class Minus 13's members. We have experienced the worst, that's why we can do the worst."
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: The true nature of the Minus class. To quote one Minus: "Do you know the taste of gas that your parent makes you swallow? How about the taste of licking a perverted teacher's shoe? The taste of sand that your classmates make you swallow? At least you know the taste of a newspaper that was the only food you could obtain? Of course you don't know, because you guys are the happy ones. But those kinds of tastes are just how it is for us, Class Minus 13's members. We have experienced the worst, that's why we can do the worst."
* [[Jumping the Shark]]/[[Growing the Beard]]: An amazing example due to [[Genre Shift]]. Pick one of any of these major arc-ending [[Shocking Swerve|Shocking Swerves]] / arc-climaxes:
* [[Jumping the Shark]]/[[Growing the Beard]]: An amazing example due to [[Genre Shift]]. Pick one of any of these major arc-ending [[Shocking Swerve|Shocking Swerves]] / arc-climaxes:
** The unveiling of a DBZ style [[Super-Powered Evil Side]] for Medaka -- Perses Mode, which happened when the manga first started dipping into fighting manga, and the semi-realistic tone was dropped.
** The unveiling of a DBZ style [[Super-Powered Evil Side]] for Medaka -- Perses Mode, which happened when the manga first started dipping into fighting manga, and the semi-realistic tone was dropped.
** The unveiling of the Flask Plan to artificially create [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]], the discovery of a ''15-story government weapons research lab under their school'' and the start of essentially [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil|a year long fight scene against progressively more eccentric and over the top characters.]]
** The unveiling of the Flask Plan to artificially create [[Mary Sue|Mary Sues]], the discovery of a ''15-story government weapons research lab under their school'' and the start of essentially [[Sorting Algorithm of Evil|a year long fight scene against progressively more eccentric and over the top characters.]]
** The arrival of the "-Abnormals" and "Class -13" -- Abnormals that aren't [[Mary Sue]] parodies - but rather, ''[[Anti Sue]]'' parodies. At this point, all attempts at a realistic tone were completely dropped, in lieu of people who can instantly heal any wound, disintegrate entire buildings, are so awesome the brain literally [[Invisibility|cannot]] [[Unperson|bear]] [[Ret Gone|to remember them]].
** The arrival of the "-Abnormals" and "Class -13" -- Abnormals that aren't [[Mary Sue]] parodies - but rather, ''[[Anti-Sue]]'' parodies. At this point, all attempts at a realistic tone were completely dropped, in lieu of people who can instantly heal any wound, disintegrate entire buildings, are so awesome the brain literally [[Invisibility|cannot]] [[Unperson|bear]] [[Ret-Gone|to remember them]].
* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: Hitoyoshi, arguably. He has Medaka, Shiranui, Kikaijima, Mukae, Ajimu, Naze, Akune, Kumagawa, Maguro, Munakata, and now Tsugiha.
* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: Hitoyoshi, arguably. He has Medaka, Shiranui, Kikaijima, Mukae, Ajimu, Naze, Akune, Kumagawa, Maguro, Munakata, and now Tsugiha.
** Kumagawa is also shaping up to be this, sharing pretty much all of the above characters, but replacing himself with Hitoyoshi, Maguro with Gagamaru, Munakata with Shibushi, and Tsugiha with Ima. And for some reason there was a picture of him and Shiranui with Hinokage...
** Kumagawa is also shaping up to be this, sharing pretty much all of the above characters, but replacing himself with Hitoyoshi, Maguro with Gagamaru, Munakata with Shibushi, and Tsugiha with Ima. And for some reason there was a picture of him and Shiranui with Hinokage...