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** Similarly, as far as they know (though it isn't just Chloe fans who think this) Zoe [[Ret-Gone|doesn't exist]]. And even if she does, she almost never gets the Bee miraculous or any miraculous for that matter.
** The statue scene from 'Puppeteer 2' is disliked for how creepy it is by detractors and fans alike because Marinette sniffs and is generally creepy. 'Determination' made this worse by revealing it's when Adrien fell in love with her.
** The whole episode of 'Derision' due to how demonized Kim is as well as the [[Ass Pull|horrible explanation]] for Marinette's stalkerish tendencies. Essentially it's because of a horrible prank by Kim that traumatized Marinette, however we never see her get PTSD from this event in earlier seasons plus she is able to act normal (well, more normal than herself when she's with Adrien) when she's with her other crushes (i.e Luka and Chat Noir).
** The "if you know each other's identities, you'll lose your miraculous" rule due to how much the show flip-flops on it as well as it's genuinely seen as an [[Ass Pull]] to slow Marinette and Adrien from knowing their identities.
* [[Fanon]]: Ladybug's akumatized form, she was initially called Miss Fortune, though it has changed to Princess Justice per her and her mother, Sabine, almost getting akumatized. Though both have been used together, Miss Fortune for Ladybug and Princess Justice for Marinette. There's does seen to be a canon (or at least third) name in the form of Shadybug, but as of now, it's mostly [[Fanon Discontinuity|ignored]].
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