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* [[Che Guevara]], Marxist revolutionary. Criticisms of the guy himself aside, there is something hypocritical about using a communist leader's image to sell t-shirts to privileged middle-class kids. (That those privileged middle-class kids like to buy these in the first place seems to suggest that they either don't realize how hypocritical it is, don't care, or some combination of the two.) [[Your Approval Fills Me ~~With~~ Shame|Their approval would probably fill him with shame.]] An article from [[The Other Wiki]] on Che Guevara merchandise lists a variety of criticisms of it [[wikipedia:Che Guevara in popular culture#Criticism|here,]] from both pro-Che ''and'' anti-Che perspectives.

* [[Che Guevara]], Marxist revolutionary. Criticisms of the guy himself aside, there is something hypocritical about using a communist leader's image to sell t-shirts to privileged middle-class kids. (That those privileged middle-class kids like to buy these in the first place seems to suggest that they either don't realize how hypocritical it is, don't care, or some combination of the two.) [[Your Approval Fills Me with Shame|Their approval would probably fill him with shame.]] An article from [[The Other Wiki]] on Che Guevara merchandise lists a variety of criticisms of it [[wikipedia:Che Guevara in popular culture#Criticism|here,]] from both pro-Che ''and'' anti-Che perspectives.

** Missing the point a little less, there are committed anti-capitalists who nonetheless [[Did Not Do the Research]]; many Anarchists and Trotskyists idolize Che despite his having fought to establish a regime both parties decry (as "statist" and "Stalinist", respectively) -- not to mention that he famously had Anarchists and Trotskyists ''shot''.

** Numerous rock musicians have sported the aforementioned tee shirts, and it's common to see people wearing them at concerts. Guevara himself disdained rock music (regarding it as an "Imperialist" form of artistic expression) and banned it from Cuba under the threat of imprisonment. Or worse.

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*** And, recently has started recruiting clergymen. For just $20 USD anyone can be legally ordained as a minister in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

** There are many other parody religions such as the [[wikipedia:Church of the SubGenius|Church of the Subgenius]] and [[wikipedia:Discordianism|Discordianism]] as well.

** It's not that their major argument was "You can't prove a negative." though it was a small part of it. They were against the "Teach the controversy" idiocy. Then you wouldn't be teaching science and christian creationism, but also pastafarianism, scientology, hindu creationism, the [[The ~~Hitchhikers~~ Guide to ~~The~~ Galaxy|Great Green Arkleseizure]], ad nauseum, until nothing ever gets taught.

** It's not that their major argument was "You can't prove a negative." though it was a small part of it. They were against the "Teach the controversy" idiocy. Then you wouldn't be teaching science and christian creationism, but also pastafarianism, scientology, hindu creationism, the [[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|Great Green Arkleseizure]], ad nauseum, until nothing ever gets taught.

*** Discordianism <ref> fnord</ref> actually started as a silly but serious religion to parody other parodies of religion, and there are still "serious" Discordian followers out there. Anyone who says otherwise will rot in Thud.

** As a funny aside, when Bertrand Russell was indicted for a vast array of offences in absentia for specious reasons, he claims that the university he was denied a position should have the decency to teach the controversy. His essays on the subject were later documented in "Why I am not a Christian", part of which seems to form the inspiration for Brave New World.

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* Fred Hoyle, a cosmologist who favored a "steady state" theory of the universe, coined the term "Big Bang" to ridicule that idea. He wound up giving it a catchy, easy to remember name that is now learned by every child in English-speaking nations.

* Thomas Edison invested in development of the electric chair as an execution device to try and show everybody the dangers of alternating current (the current model used by his rival Westinghouse) and discourage its use. It was ''supposed'' to be "an awful spectacle" as a witness to its first use famously remarked, but a few years later it had became standard in much of the United States. Of course, [[Pay Evil Unto Evil|when the people you use it on are murderers and rapists...]]

* [[Deadpan Snarker]] / [[Accentuate the Negative]] is often treated as an attractive mentality. Some people cite "smart" snarky characters such as [[Daria]] and [[Malcolm in ~~The~~ Middle|Malcolm]] as proof that the trait is a sign of wit and intelligence. This ignores, of course, that snide and sarcastic behavior rarely comes across as amusing outside of the fantasy world of entertainment (or internet, where the [[GIFT]] is in effect). If you [[Accentuate the Negative]] in real life as much as most fictional snarkers, most people will want to stay the hell away from you because you will seem ''completely'' unable to enjoy ''anything''.

* [[Deadpan Snarker]] / [[Accentuate the Negative]] is often treated as an attractive mentality. Some people cite "smart" snarky characters such as [[Daria]] and [[Malcolm in the Middle|Malcolm]] as proof that the trait is a sign of wit and intelligence. This ignores, of course, that snide and sarcastic behavior rarely comes across as amusing outside of the fantasy world of entertainment (or internet, where the [[GIFT]] is in effect). If you [[Accentuate the Negative]] in real life as much as most fictional snarkers, most people will want to stay the hell away from you because you will seem ''completely'' unable to enjoy ''anything''.

** Depends when and where you're using it. Deadpan Snarkery can be very endearing to many people, as it shows that you have a sharp wit and good sense of humor. So it depends on the situation.

** It's best to go heavier on the deadpan and lighter on the snark; even so-so material can be funny if it can be delivered with a straight face, but too much acerbic snarkiness just makes one look like a smug asshole.

** Likewise, people try to replicate a couple characters who happen to be jerks such as ''[[House (TV)|House]]''. Never mind that in the case of ''[[House (TV)|House]]'', you would ''not'' want to work with him and you would not want to work for him, either. And in the case of internet critics like ''[[~~The Angry Video Game Nerd (Web Video)|~~The Angry Video Game Nerd]]'', ''[[~~The Nostalgia Critic (Web Video)|~~The Nostalgia Critic]]'' or ''[[~~The Nostalgia Chick (Web Video)|~~The Nostalgia Chick]]'', they are characters that are ''intended'' to be pathetic masochists.

** Likewise, people try to replicate a couple characters who happen to be jerks such as ''[[House (TV series)|House]]''. Never mind that in the case of ''[[House (TV series)|House]]'', you would ''not'' want to work with him and you would not want to work for him, either. And in the case of internet critics like ''[[The Angry Video Game Nerd]]'', ''[[The Nostalgia Critic]]'' or ''[[The Nostalgia Chick]]'', they are characters that are ''intended'' to be pathetic masochists.

*** Video game critics like [[Zero Punctuation|Yahtzee]] and the ones mentioned above usually slam video games of their flaws to the extreme because that is a part of their character. Somehow, many people take nearly everything that is said at face value and use the nearly cartoonish criticisms as the basis on why no one should play a certain game. Just take a look at many user created video game reviews and you're bound to find a handful of people that can't seem to say at least one positive thing about the game they are slamming.

** Similar to the deadpan snarkery, criticism and critiquing in general seems to have taken a direction at jerkassery. The rise of harsh critics that judge the skill of others like [[American Idol|Simon Cowell]] and [[~~Hells~~ Kitchen|Gordon Ramsey]] have given people the wrong idea on how to critique others. The shows with the harsh critics are used on people who think they are talented when they are actually horrible and are ripped apart by the harsh judges. The same critics can also be seen giving advice to people who have potential and can be pretty heartwarming at times. However, nearly everyone believes that slamming someone's work to pieces without saying anything positive or even offering advice on how to improve is the way to get people to improve when it would actually either get the person to ignore them or completely give up on what they were working on because they feel no one actually likes what they did.

** Similar to the deadpan snarkery, criticism and critiquing in general seems to have taken a direction at jerkassery. The rise of harsh critics that judge the skill of others like [[American Idol|Simon Cowell]] and [[Hell's Kitchen|Gordon Ramsey]] have given people the wrong idea on how to critique others. The shows with the harsh critics are used on people who think they are talented when they are actually horrible and are ripped apart by the harsh judges. The same critics can also be seen giving advice to people who have potential and can be pretty heartwarming at times. However, nearly everyone believes that slamming someone's work to pieces without saying anything positive or even offering advice on how to improve is the way to get people to improve when it would actually either get the person to ignore them or completely give up on what they were working on because they feel no one actually likes what they did.

* There are a lot of people who keep adding [[Justifying Edit]]s to the [[Rape Is Ok When It Is Female On Male]] page to explain why a particular incident isn't "really" rape or shouldn't count.

* [[Straw Man Has a Point]] is filled with examples where someone merely ''disagreed'' with the series protagonists, and the troper assumed that the writers are portraying the hero as 100% correct, all the time. For example, ''[[Doctor Who]]'''s Ninth Doctor did some morally dubious things, such as the climax of ''Dalek''. Yet when his successor, Ten, does similar things, even when they're specifically shown to have terrible consequences down the line, the people who disagreed with him are "obviously" supposed to be strawmen.

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* There is a branch of Social Darwinism based off ideas in Richard Dawkins' book ''The Selfish Gene''. When he found out about it he added a forward to later editions specifically refuting it.

** The original idea of natural selection [[Social Darwinist|had its fair share of misaimed fandom at it, too]]. In the past it was used as an excuse by racists to subjugate the people they were against.

* According to the author of [[~~Naruto Veangance Revelaitons (Fanfic)|~~Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]], [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] Edfred is supposed to be seen as a [[Jerkass]] who gets in Ronan's way, but many readers like him for being the only one to stand up to the [[Jerk Sue]] hero.

* According to the author of [[Naruto Veangance Revelaitons]], [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] Edfred is supposed to be seen as a [[Jerkass]] who gets in Ronan's way, but many readers like him for being the only one to stand up to the [[Jerk Sue]] hero.

* [[Friedrich Nietzsche|Nietzsche]] [[Nietzsche Wannabe|Wannabes.]]

* After Steve Irwin died, a couple of fanatics began brutally killing innocent stingrays to "avenge" his death. This is ''completely'' the opposite of what Irwin would have wanted. He would have said that the stingray that killed him was merely scared and was defending itself, and that we need to be '''protecting''' these animals, not killing them off.

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** It goes both ways: some people support various pro-Western dictators. Granted, it isn't so common today, but was much more so during the [[Cold War]].

** A lot of support for both pro-and-anti-American dictatorships comes with heavy doses of [[Enemy Mine]].

* Barry Goldwater, while often hailed today as a leader of modern conservatism, was actually quite liberal in many regards, especially on social issues. His ideology was less conservative and more libertarian, however many of his views seemed quite extreme back in the [[The Sixties|1960s]] when he was running for President of the United States. He said numerous things that seemed too out of the mainstream, and this ultimately ended in his landslide defeat to [[Lyndon Johnson]] in 1964. However, later in life when the [[Ronald Reagan]] conservatives and religious fundamentalists dominated the Republican Party and treated Goldwater as a hero to the right-wing, Goldwater stated that today's Republican Party is not the same as it was in the 60s and [[Your Approval Fills Me ~~With~~ Shame|he was ashamed to be part of such an extreme political party]].

* Barry Goldwater, while often hailed today as a leader of modern conservatism, was actually quite liberal in many regards, especially on social issues. His ideology was less conservative and more libertarian, however many of his views seemed quite extreme back in the [[The Sixties|1960s]] when he was running for President of the United States. He said numerous things that seemed too out of the mainstream, and this ultimately ended in his landslide defeat to [[Lyndon Johnson]] in 1964. However, later in life when the [[Ronald Reagan]] conservatives and religious fundamentalists dominated the Republican Party and treated Goldwater as a hero to the right-wing, Goldwater stated that today's Republican Party is not the same as it was in the 60s and [[Your Approval Fills Me with Shame|he was ashamed to be part of such an extreme political party]].

* Some people say something to the effect of "Yeah, [[Benito Mussolini]] did a lot of bad things, but he also made the trains run on time." (They actually didn't.)

* Yes, it's still rape if the victim gets off. Really, [[Humans Are Morons|it's sad this has to be here]].