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* {{spoiler|The other misfits visit his grave, Kelly hears his thoughts, they realise he'a alive and dig him up, he says something along the lines of 'what the fuck took you so long?".}} Not really a WMG since it's probably fairly obvious.

** Confirmed. It's not quite as simple as that though. {{spoiler|The masked biker dude, also awesome at parkour, told her to do it.}}

 

* It's the ability to mentally hop back into the body of his past self, which explains why his memories didn't change when he redid the night he got arrested, among other bits of [[Fridge Logic]].

** That would explain how his past self had the power of time travel even if his past self existed in a point of time BEFORE he got his powers. He was just downloading his mind in a past body and when he finished his adjustments reality rebooted with the changes he made.

 

 

* Simon can invoke his power voluntarily because it requires an emotional trigger, which he has become able to harness, unlike Curtis who can only rewind time when he feels personally responsible for it (he could stop Sam's arrest because he blamed himself for it, {{spoiler|but was unable to prevent Nathan's death because he didn't feel it was his fault)}}. Kelly and Alisha's powers cannot be switched off, {{spoiler|and Nathan's is a [[Defense Mechanism Superpower]].}}

** Partly Jossed, Curtis still lacks control but Kelly is much more skilful in series 2.

** Semi-confirmed? Sort of? The group {{spoiler|sold their powers, so any chance of them learning to control their powers is now gone. On the other hand, they got all new powers by the end of season 2. Interestingly, it seems that the only one out the five who can't control their new power is Simon.}}

 

* Remember how he talked about his misspent youth? How frustrated he seemed in his current job? Maybe the storm made him young and agile and so he quit his job and took to the streets as a masked vigilante. Plus, when he saved Nathan he purposely dropped him on the floor (payback for the stapler incident..?)

** Jossed as of 2x03. Not surprisingly.

 

* First off, he's always in the right place at the right time, which would require either knowing things before they happen and thus precognitive powers, or having already lived through them and coming "Back". In one scene he is seen with pictures of the group and massive LED clocks, which could be used to allow him to know when events will occur and/or what time he has jumped back to. Curtis is athletic, and him learning le parkour isn't a stretch. When nathan jumps to the future we see him standing on a roof "About to jump off it" (in his own words.) and wearing a suit that looks strikingly similar to super hoodie.

** Jossed, but not far off - {{spoiler|Super-Hoodie is Simon travelled back from the future.}}

 

* He's shown to be emotionally and maybe mentally unstable after all the bullying he's been through. Not to mention Sally's probably given him a few (more?) trust issues, which isn't a good sign considering his devotion to and trust in his not-quite-as-overtly-devoted True Companions seems to be the only thing keeping him together. Hell, that's not necessarily even a redeeming factor for him- his trying to protect them led to accidentally killing someone, and he seems to think the incident was 'justified' because he was protecting his friends. One way or another, it's not such a stretch to think he'll finally cross the [[Moral Event Horizon]] at some point and become truly evil.

** Possibly, although we now know he's {{spoiler|Super Hoodie, who's come back to make sure everything happens when it should.}}

*** Though he could actually be {{spoiler|manipulating things in the past}} to his own evil means...

** Sally's death isn't really represented as 'justified', even from Simon's perspective. The moment the situation became violent was when Sally smashed Simon's head into the mirror; before that point it's unclear whether his feelings for Sally are stronger than his feelings for the other Misfits and he seems on the verge of agreeing to turn them in. After she injures him and runs away with his phone, he realizes that she didn't have genuine feelings for him and decides to protect the others. He also doesn't set out to kill her, like you said, it was an accidental death. But it's never represented as justified because of the amount of guilt and regret that Simon clearly feels over what happened. The justified deaths in the series tend to be a group effort, like with Tony, and if Simon had felt that Sally's death was necessary he would have gone to them for help disposing of the body. Instead, he keeps her death and the body hidden from the others, and has a meltdown when they eventually find out about it a long time afterward. It's also clear that he still had strong feelings for her after her death, judging by the time he spent with her body and the symbolic 'moving on' scene where he deletes all the videos of her from his computer. The death is treated very differently from other deaths in the series BECAUSE Simon doesn't think it was justified.

 

* Two flavours of insanity-as-a-superpower, one of telepathy, and three of mind control makes me suspect that it's all just different applications of mental abilities. The counterexamples can be explained as follows:

* Simon can't turn invisible, but he can psychically convince people nearby that he's not there.

** Quite a lot of words to come to that conclusion. Also, Nathan seemed pretty conscious when he {{spoiler|was buried (without air, as said) and there was nobody to download into too}}, was there?

 

** Possibly one of the thousands of people who got empowered got weather powers, and the storm was just the expression of that. Would mean the [[Super Empowering Event]] wasn't instantaneous though, as the storm was already in progress when the Misfits got hit.

*** Could be instantaneous. The misfits' powers could've activated prior to the storm and not been noticed until after. None of them were noticed right away. This is true of every power encountered so far that has been explicitly blamed on the storm.

 

* Nathan can't stay dead, and presumably, can't age either (or will age, die and regen at his current age). He lives until a time in the future when time machines are invented, comes back and keeps the gang out of some of the more difficult-to-avoid scrapes.

** Jossed, but good guess. {{spoiler|SIMON}} from the future is Superhoodie.

 

* Would come in very handy for [[Le Parkour]] and trick biking, plus how else can they keep track of that [[Room Full of Crazy]] without, well, going crazy? Also makes the [[Improbable Aiming Skills]] with the paper plane more believable.

* Isn´t he more likely to have the ability to see into the future? He knows where and when he has to be so everything turnes out how he wants, has big clocks on the walls of his earlier mentioned crazy room and if you assume he sees different alternative futures, he can even figure out how to shoot a paper plane so it will fly over great distances exactly where he wants it to (here: Kelly´s eye). Probably he had one or more visions, saw some Big Unpleasant Thing in the future and made it his mission to prevent this from happening. (And the Misfits seem to play a part in it, but he also had a bunch of other photos on his nice walls.)

** {{spoiler|It ''was'' close though.}}

 

** Actually, in the second episode, Alisha is at the club touching girls and boys, showing that her power works on both sexes.

** The Superhoodie stuff could be explained by Lucy taking on the body of an existing le Parkour practitioner or altering her body to be like one. The skills may take some getting used to, but having the body of an exceptional athelete could've been a helpful shortcut.

 

* It's been shown before that {{spoiler|Ollie's power can be transferred to another person via heart transplant}}. Curtis will find himself in a situation where {{spoiler|he needs a heart transplant. Nikki will die and have her/Ollie's heart donated to Curtis}}. He may then rewind time and fix things so that the event where he gets teleportation doesn't happen... while still retaining teleportation.

** Jossed {{spoiler|with Nikki's death, but another teleportation organ donor or using Seth's ability is feasible.}}

 

** Alternatively, he could be a really good tactician who has the power to see into the future. So he knows about the group's powers, and therefore knows that/gambles that Curtis will go back in time to stop him being bashed to death, and does things like give them his car keys to let them rescue Kelly. In fact, maybe the reason that he's not sad about Ollie's death is that he knew it would happen and decided not to prevent it. This could even link to the next WMG, and Shaun could actually be the Big Bad, masquerading as a completely normal guy while gathering info on the misfits and secretly guiding them to do what he wants.

*** Jossed {{spoiler|with Shaun's death scene, where he expresses surprise at their powers.}}

 

 

* To expand the second possibility, rather than a Big Bad it could simply be that Curtis messes up when he goes back in time--causing the timeloop, or the combination of both Curtis and a Big Bad. {{spoiler|'There's also a possible chance that it's Alisha's death (together or instead of her love) that turns Simon into a Superhoodie.}}

 

 

* This is very similar to an above WMG (the one about Lucy being Superhoodie). I can't see {{spoiler|Alisha}} ever allowing {{spoiler|Simon}} to go back in time, knowing that he will {{spoiler|die in the past.}} Instead, I think that it is possible that there will be someone (maybe Lucy, maybe someone with the power to copy other people's powers, maybe a different shapeshifter) who volunteers to go back in time instead of {{spoiler|Simon}} for some reason. If their power is to copy someone else's , then it's reasonable to think someone has the 'power' of nullification. If their power is shapeshifting, remember how good an actress Lucy was? Maybe shapeshifters have a hard time keeping ahold of their sense of identity- so Superhoodie actually starts believing that he's {{spoiler|Simon}}, and acts accordingly (initiating a relationship with {{spoiler|Alisha}}, for instance...

OK, I admit it, I just don't want to believe that {{spoiler|Simon dies so tragically.}}

 

 

After figuring out {{spoiler|powers can be transfered through organ donation Simon gets a piece of Alisha. The two powers cancel each other out.}}

 

 

This is in response to the above; perhaps {{spoiler|Future Simon}} was able to gain Alisha's attraction power and thus cancel it out. He gains other powers through relationships that will be formed in later series.

 

This seems to be heavily implied by Super Hoodie showing different powers to {{spoiler|Simon}}. Radical shifts in personality will trigger new powers. Specifically this means that:

* {{spoiler|Future Simon developed immunity to Alisha's powers because he fell in love with her. He loved her so much he developed the powers to be with her.}}

* This is brilliant. Nathan's {{spoiler|newer power of seeing the dead}} is because his {{spoiler|immortality}} is causing him to think about death more and in a completely new light. In the same way that Curtis' power is driven by regret, {{spoiler|Simon}} feels a desperate need to repair the past and suddenly finds he can.

 

* Full of spoilers and wishful thinking. {{spoiler|isn't dead yet. Simon wanted Alisha to think he was. He had received a transplant from Nathan. Which means, he's going to show up again. Maybe. Please?}}

** Making his {{spoiler|sacrifice to save Alisha pointless, not to mention traumatising the poor girl by making her set fire to his body? Come the events of the recent episodes, it's pretty clear that present!Simon is already growing to be more like his future self. Can't we be happy with that?}}

*** {{spoiler|Simon got said he needed to "get some new powers". He picked up time travel, and immunity in the past; he might've picked up immortality as well. We have no confirmation that Seth's sold that one except Curtis' insistence in 1.03 that sex swapping was "the only one left"; he may have meant the only one in their price range (immortality is definitely A-list). With Seth now a friend who believes in his mission and has vowed not to sell powers any more, he might be happy to give it to Simon, who he can trust to use it responsibly. Then he can dig himself out of his (probably shallow and coffinless) grave after he regenerates.}}

 

* The guy who takes the powers from the Misfits {{spoiler|will be fought after draining the 'Jesus' character, after which Simon will steal the powers for himself by drugging him, thus reversing the draining power, becoming Super Hoodie.}}

 

* Before {{spoiler|he kills certain people}} there is always some sort of milk nearby, indicating this is how he was able to move around in air vents and into people's rooms.]]

 

* {{spoiler|Now that time is reversed, and she's perfectly alive, who's to think she won't come back to stick a thorn on the side of the kids?}}

 

* {{spoiler|He had footage of the 'Asbo Five' interviews, despite the fact that it no longer happened. As Alisha was wearing her community service jumpsuit, it can be reasonably assumed that if they do get 'outed', that exact interview will not be produced. Therefore Future!Simon is from a timeline wherein the Asbo Five thing ''did'' happen, but the outcome was different - Simon and Alisha and some or all of the other Misfits survived, possibly due to the fact that Simon and Alisha were not affected by the knowledge that Simon was Super!Hoodie. Simon and Alisha then became a couple, the timeline progressed, and eventually something happened which caused Simon to go back in time, creating the current timeline. It may ''appear'' to be a stable timeloop, but it isn't - his intervention has shifted the timeline enough that whatever would have happened to Alisha in the future has now been prevented.}}

** Consider Simon at some point has to become {{spoiler|Future!Simon, which means there was a Simon #1 who decided to go back in time to be with Alisha - no one said he had to be from the same timeline- what if, somehow Alisha got out of the situation somehow with the Video Game Guy or never got into the situation because there was no Superhoodie/Future!Simon to interfere in the first place (remember, he had been in the mix since Series 1) and they all continued on their timeline eventually falling in love, AND getting famous. Something goes wrong, maybe Mr. Grand Frommage, maybe something else, and Simon #1 decides to go back in time to change things bringing the footage. He changes things so much they get stuck in an endless time loop handing down the footage from one Simon to the next without actually experiencing the famous future, but get artifacts from the previous timeline because the Simons keep handing down the items to one another. }}

 

* {{spoiler|He's playing the role of Jesus, has multiple Misfit powers, and didn't pick up immortality so that he can resurrect himself and antagonize the group long term?}}

 

** Nathan: He'll likely use some sort of [[Good Thing You Can Heal]] power, but likely also something active. Pyrotechnics, telekinesis, water bending, baleful polymorphs....

 

* Pretty minor compared to most things people are theorizing on here, but I've seen 2.1 about three or four times now, and every time I notice that when Nathan says 'adopted kids are nutjobs!' Curtis gets a very offended look. He often has an expression to Nathan's comments, but usually they're more like mild disbelief at Nathan's audacity as opposed to being personally offended. Every time I've seen that scene I found it a bit strange that Curtis seemed ''so'' offended by Nathan's comment, especially knowing what a deliberate douchebag Nathan is and that he almost never means what he's saying. It just strikes me that Curtis might be adopted, himself.

** This is actually a pretty valid theory. In the first episode, when Alisha,Nathan and Curtis are all by the vending machine and talking about Curtis' drug bust,Nathan goes "You let the kids down,you let your parents dow----" Before he can finish his sentance Curtis flips out and tries to hit him.

* {{spoiler|Simon}} regretted never making a move on Alisha while he had the chance,so he came back from the future to secure something between them. Alisha was the only character prior to the whole Superhoodie incident had never had a single [[Pet the Dog]] moment with him before,so her feelings were heavily influenced because she knew who {{spoiler|Simon}} would eventually become.

 

* When Superhoodie returns {{spoiler|from the future}} he can't take anything with him, and has only a limited amount of time before he has to make his first appearance and rescue Nathan from the Virtue group. For this, he uses an orange hoodie and a ski mask which can easily be bought. His fancy armour can't be bought off the rack so he has to get this made by a sort of private contractor, which takes several days. This is why his appearances in the first two series differ.

 

* ...the reason will be for beating up Gary (the milk guy) in episode 6.

 

** That's pretty much the laws of time travel. Every time you go back and change something, those timelines you changed don't disappear. They become their own parallel universe.

 

* Relating to the above WMG, the dimension cannon in Doctor Who is shown to make people jump between parallel universes. In the episode [[Doctor Who NSS 4 E 11 Turn Left|Turn Left]] we see someone using the dimension cannon to appear in an alternate timeline to the show's canon, where the only difference is that Donna never met the Doctor. If Superhoodie's method of timetravel were similar - hopping between timelines but relying on luck to get you to the one you want - it would explain why he has the video of Alisha on his computer.

 

* This is what actually turns {{spoiler|Simon}} into {{spoiler|Superhoodie}}. He goes on a roaring rampage of revenge to avenge her death before going back in time to complete his mission...and then hopefully they ride blissfully off into the afterlife like Jamie and Lily did in Series 2.

 

 

== Curtis has Lucy's power ==

* In fact, the power broker could be doing this to everyone. For example, perhaps Alisha's power {{spoiler|actually allows her to [[Body Snatcher|take over over people's bodies]]}} and Kelly {{spoiler|can create futuristic rockets}}.

* It's possible that {{spoiler|Seth (the power broker) is able to divide powers into seperate ones. He could have just given Curtis some of Lucy's power, the part of it that allows her to switch genders. Kelly's power was probably super-intellect, but Seth split it up and gave her the part that focused on Rocket Science.}}

== The Misfit's {{spoiler|new powers}} are based on what they want to be (Curtis wants to be someone else, Kelly wants to be smarter, Simon wants to become his future-self, etc.), and their {{spoiler|old powers}} were based on what they were (Simon was never noticed, , Alisha was promiscuous, Curtis was always looking to the past, etc.) ==

 

* In the season 3 Online Short, Nathan was {{spoiler|arrested for using his powers to cheat}}. Who do we know will definitely pay that place a visit? Alisha and Simon, of course. This was set up so that if {{spoiler|Robert Sheehan ever decides to come back, the writers will have a perfectly valid way to reintroduce his character back into the show}}.

** The photo of Alisha and Simon in Las Vegas has been taken. The whole gang went to LV between the end of season 2 and the start of season 3. Nathan stayed longer to get money for his wedding to Marnie.

 

== Shaun is, or was, a transman before the show started. ==

 

* They both work on a similar basis, understanding things by looking at them (Kelly with machines, Sylar with brains). Although Sylar's was more biological in aspect, it is possible that Kelly's could evolve into a Sylar-esque ability, and she'll learn how to steal powers.

 

** Anal sex isn't a "gay thing". Plenty of straight people do it, and plenty of gay men don't.

 

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