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* The titular character of ''[[Ojamajo Doremi]]'' falls in love more often in one season than other people in their whole life. And she is 8 at the start of the first season.
* The titular character of ''[[Ojamajo Doremi]]'' falls in love more often in one season than other people in their whole life. And she is 8 at the start of the first season.
* Due to [[Fridge Logic]], Lelouch of ''[[Code Geass]]'' is a borderline example, being a 17-year-old capable of leading an army and dealing with politics without any (visible) prior experience. Yes, he's [[The Prince]] and a genius, yet the show [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief|asks the viewers to accept]] that he's capable of leading [[La Résistance]] against the well-trained army of [[The Empire]] with experienced military commanders ten (Cornelia, Schneizel) to twenty (Tohdoh) years older than him.
* Due to [[Fridge Logic]], Lelouch of ''[[Code Geass]]'' is a borderline example, being a 17-year-old capable of leading an army and dealing with politics without any (visible) prior experience. Yes, he's [[The Prince]] and a genius, yet the show [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief|asks the viewers to accept]] that he's capable of leading [[La Résistance]] against the well-trained army of [[The Empire]] with experienced military commanders ten (Cornelia, Schneizel) to twenty (Tohdoh) years older than him.
* ''[[Now and Then Here and There]]''. [[Child Soldiers|It's justified though.]]
* ''[[Now and Then, Here and There]]''. [[Child Soldiers|It's justified though.]]
* Heavily [[Averted]] in ''[[Pani Poni Dash!]]''. The whole point is that the main character is eleven years old, has a job as a high school teacher, and yet acts childishly as you'd expect someone her age to (such as shrieking at the top of her lungs or calling her students by distinguishing traits rather than their names).
* Heavily [[Averted]] in ''[[Pani Poni Dash!]]''. The whole point is that the main character is eleven years old, has a job as a high school teacher, and yet acts childishly as you'd expect someone her age to (such as shrieking at the top of her lungs or calling her students by distinguishing traits rather than their names).
* [[Popotan]] averts this with Mii, who is very [[Genki Girl|hyperactive]] and obsessed with [[Magical Girl]]s and puffy things. Played straight, though, with supporting character Daichi and his classmates. [[Ill Girl|Miyuki]] is arguable.
* [[Popotan]] averts this with Mii, who is very [[Genki Girl|hyperactive]] and obsessed with [[Magical Girl]]s and puffy things. Played straight, though, with supporting character Daichi and his classmates. [[Ill Girl|Miyuki]] is arguable.
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** And then there were the jobs they were entrusted with by adults, the most [[Egregious]] being the "Super Special" plots, where they would take charge of younger kids away from home, including while stranded in a snowstorm and on vacation in New York (which was a strange city to most of them!). All they had to do was offer to help and explain that they had started an after-school baby-sitting business, whereupon one of the parents they'd worked for would chime in with, "They're ''very'' responsible," and bingo, they were treated like honorary adults, no further questions asked. And since eleven was the magic gateway to the [[Competence Zone]], often they would be "taking care of" kids who were only a year or two younger, who might exhibit different kinds of brattiness or stubbornness but would always treat them as an authority figure to be strategically undermined instead of just saying, "Dude, ''you're my age''. Stop acting like a camp counselor. No, I don't want to see what's in your Kid Kit." Apparently you can be "handled" up through the age of ten, and after that you enter a higher plane of thinking and gain all kinds of insight into the minds of "kids."
** And then there were the jobs they were entrusted with by adults, the most [[Egregious]] being the "Super Special" plots, where they would take charge of younger kids away from home, including while stranded in a snowstorm and on vacation in New York (which was a strange city to most of them!). All they had to do was offer to help and explain that they had started an after-school baby-sitting business, whereupon one of the parents they'd worked for would chime in with, "They're ''very'' responsible," and bingo, they were treated like honorary adults, no further questions asked. And since eleven was the magic gateway to the [[Competence Zone]], often they would be "taking care of" kids who were only a year or two younger, who might exhibit different kinds of brattiness or stubbornness but would always treat them as an authority figure to be strategically undermined instead of just saying, "Dude, ''you're my age''. Stop acting like a camp counselor. No, I don't want to see what's in your Kid Kit." Apparently you can be "handled" up through the age of ten, and after that you enter a higher plane of thinking and gain all kinds of insight into the minds of "kids."
*** Mallory wears an "I <3 Kids" shirt at the age of eleven. If you saw that in real life, you'd assume it was a last-resort item belonging to her mother and they were behind on laundry at her house,
*** Mallory wears an "I <3 Kids" shirt at the age of eleven. If you saw that in real life, you'd assume it was a last-resort item belonging to her mother and they were behind on laundry at her house,
* ''[[Ender's Game]]''. The author does point this out in the foreword of some editions, in what amounts to, "So what?" Somewhat justified by the fact that the kids are supposed to be towering geniuses, and most of them are being pushed to their limits. ''[[Training From Hell|Especially]]'' Ender.
* ''[[Ender's Game]]''. The author does point this out in the foreword of some editions, in what amounts to, "So what?" Somewhat justified by the fact that the kids are supposed to be towering geniuses, and most of them are being pushed to their limits. ''[[Training from Hell|Especially]]'' Ender.
** Gifted kids love this book and empathize strongly with Ender. May be a case of [[Reality Is Unrealistic]].
** Gifted kids love this book and empathize strongly with Ender. May be a case of [[Reality Is Unrealistic]].
* Averted by the early works of [[Gordon Korman]]. He had his first book published when he was 14, and got into a groove of writing stories about kids that feel genuine in tone (if outlandish in narrative events). Although he's grown up by now, works like ''[[No More Dead Dogs]]'' still feel like they're written by a teenager who happens to be a professional writer.
* Averted by the early works of [[Gordon Korman]]. He had his first book published when he was 14, and got into a groove of writing stories about kids that feel genuine in tone (if outlandish in narrative events). Although he's grown up by now, works like ''[[No More Dead Dogs]]'' still feel like they're written by a teenager who happens to be a professional writer.
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* The ''[[South Park]]'' kids have gotten more and more adult as time has gone by, for definitions of "adult" that fit within ''[[South Park]]''.
* The ''[[South Park]]'' kids have gotten more and more adult as time has gone by, for definitions of "adult" that fit within ''[[South Park]]''.
* ''[[The Weekenders]]'', which had a bunch of preteens that acted like, and talked like 16-year olds.
* ''[[The Weekenders]]'', which had a bunch of preteens that acted like, and talked like 16-year olds.
* This was the whole point of ''[[Fillmore]]!'', which was basically ''[[Law and Order]]'' or ''[[NYPD Blue]]'' set in a middle-school hall monitor department, where all of the child cast and characters acted and treated situations like graffiti and candy eating with the same wordplay, attitude, and gravitas 30-year old beat cops would use in rape and drug cases. [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?]] is commonplace to say the least.
* This was the whole point of ''[[Fillmore!]]!'', which was basically ''[[Law and Order]]'' or ''[[NYPD Blue]]'' set in a middle-school hall monitor department, where all of the child cast and characters acted and treated situations like graffiti and candy eating with the same wordplay, attitude, and gravitas 30-year old beat cops would use in rape and drug cases. [[What Do You Mean It's Not Awesome?]] is commonplace to say the least.
* ''[[Doug]]'', a show that took place in middle school where all the kids looked and acted like high school students.
* ''[[Doug]]'', a show that took place in middle school where all the kids looked and acted like high school students.
* Used frequently on ''[[The Simpsons]]''. Was [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] and [[Justified Trope|justified]] in one episode where Marge worries that Bart and Lisa (who are 10 and 8 years old, respectively) are already acting like teenagers. Homer chalks it up to all the growth hormones in food.
* Used frequently on ''[[The Simpsons]]''. Was [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] and [[Justified Trope|justified]] in one episode where Marge worries that Bart and Lisa (who are 10 and 8 years old, respectively) are already acting like teenagers. Homer chalks it up to all the growth hormones in food.
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