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See also [[Grandfather Paradox]].

== [[Anime]] / [[Manga]] ==

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== [[Comic Books]] ==

* Played with, but averted, with the [[Marvel Comics]] villains Kang the Conqueror and [[Doctor Doom]]. Kang, the [[Ur Example]] of the [[Conqueror From the Future]], was for some time believed to be a future version of Doom, and the two worked together (and double-crossed each other) on many occasions, culminating in the ''Secret Wars'' maxiseries, in which Doom had Kang disintegrated by [[Do Anything Robot|Ultron]] (he got better with the help of a [[Reality Warper]]). Later, however, it was revealed that Kang wasn't really Doom's future incarnation. He was actually either Mister Fantastic's father or distant cousin or some such thing ([[Tangled Family Tree|it's confusing]]).

* Played with, but averted, with the [[Marvel Comics]] villains Kang the Conqueror and [[Doctor Doom]]. Kang, the [[Ur Example]] of the [[Conqueror From the Future]], was for some time believed to be a future version of Doom, and the two worked together (and double-crossed each other) on many occasions, culminating in the ''Secret Wars'' maxiseries, in which Doom had Kang disintegrated by [[Do-Anything Robot|Ultron]] (he got better with the help of a [[Reality Warper]]). Later, however, it was revealed that Kang wasn't really Doom's future incarnation. He was actually either Mister Fantastic's father or distant cousin or some such thing ([[Tangled Family Tree|it's confusing]]).

** What complicates it is that Reed Richards' father and Kang are ''both'' named Nathaniel Richards, but are completely separate people. We think.

** Kang is a bit of a mess. There is another character, more or less a good guy, who's a future version of Kang, and there turns out to be a rather large group of Kangs, from different points of their own time line or from parralel realities, that cooperate and occasionally congregate for various purposes, then there's a larger group of Kang-analogs that are clearly Kang but have different faces, different genders, different species...

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* ''[[The Man Who Folded Himself]]'', {{spoiler|where every named character is the same person.}}

** Except, of course, for the lawyer, Mr. Briggs (or something).

* In a book called "The Mirror", a young woman switches bodies/eras with her grandmother, and then lives her life. (in other words, she is the one who has the great romance with the grandfather, who is thought by the family to be psychic, who gives birth to her mother...). [[Timey Wimey Ball|At the beginning /end of the book]], she dies as her grandmother, while her grandmother then lives the rest of her life.

* In a book called "The Mirror", a young woman switches bodies/eras with her grandmother, and then lives her life. (in other words, she is the one who has the great romance with the grandfather, who is thought by the family to be psychic, who gives birth to her mother...). [[Timey-Wimey Ball|At the beginning /end of the book]], she dies as her grandmother, while her grandmother then lives the rest of her life.

* Spider Robinson's "Have You Heard The One..." features a visit to [[Callahans Crosstime Saloon (Literature)|Callahans Crosstime Saloon]] by a time-traveling salesman, whose plans are foiled by {{spoiler|Philip Jose Farmer's daughter Josie, who mentions that she "thinks she's going to grow up to be Mom."}}

* The first edition of ''[[Harry Potter]] and the Chamber of Secrets'' has Dumbledore stating that Voldemort is the "last living ancestor" of Salazar Slytherin. Among those who realized what that ''actually'' means (in context, it's easy to miss), there was some wild speculation, especially since {{spoiler|the sequel introduces time travel, although that would be a ''llloooot'' of tedious hourglass-turning}}. Of course, it was simply a mix up with "descendant". Some people use "ancestor" in a sense that includes "descendant", but it's best not to for clarity's sake.

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== [[Video Games]] ==

* ''[[Achron]]'': The alien Grekim are able to pull this off in gameplay (see [http://www.achrongame.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2903&hilit=Grekim+grandfather&start=20 here] for directions how). It has [[Awesome but Impractical|little practical use]] though, so it doesn't happen often.

* ''[[Digimon Tamers Brave Tamer (Video Game)|Digimon Tamers Brave Tamer]]'' establishes that a combination of this and [[Timey Wimey Ball]] to [[Mind Screw]] levels resulted in the birth of {{spoiler|1=Millenniumon: far in his future as ZeedMillenniumon he released Apocalymon, whose presence came to cause the existence of [[Digimon Adventure (Anime)|the Dark Masters]]. One of the Dark Masters was Mugendramon, who after his appparent death merged with a Chimairamon to form Millenniumon, who would go on to do horrible things, become ZeedMillenniumon, et cetera.}}

* ''[[Digimon Tamers Brave Tamer (Video Game)|Digimon Tamers Brave Tamer]]'' establishes that a combination of this and [[Timey-Wimey Ball]] to [[Mind Screw]] levels resulted in the birth of {{spoiler|1=Millenniumon: far in his future as ZeedMillenniumon he released Apocalymon, whose presence came to cause the existence of [[Digimon Adventure (Anime)|the Dark Masters]]. One of the Dark Masters was Mugendramon, who after his appparent death merged with a Chimairamon to form Millenniumon, who would go on to do horrible things, become ZeedMillenniumon, et cetera.}}

** Add to that that Chimairamon was created by {{spoiler|Ken}} as a direct result of him [[More Than Mind Control|having been hit by Milleniummon's {{spoiler|dark spores}} ]] years earlier. The irony being that {{spoiler|Ken}} ended up setting the events in motion that screwed up Ryo's life by [[Taking the Bullet]] for him.

* ''[[Oracle of Tao]]'' has a version of this that doesn't involve time travel, but rather a [[God in Human Form]] situation, where God impregnates her mother, even though God turns out to be her true form. [[Homosexual Reproduction|There are]] [[My Own Grampa|so many]] [[Parental Incest|things wrong]] [[Tangled Family Tree|with this]].

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== [[Western Animation]] ==

* A well-known example is the ''[[Futurama (Animation)|Futurama]]'' episode, "Roswell That Ends Well", where Fry unwittingly becomes his own grandfather. Surprisingly, this actually became a major plot point in some later episodes.

** To clarify, Fry meets his grandfather, Enos, in 1947 Roswell and becomes so afraid of getting him killed (and thus not existing) that he winds up causing him to die. Later, Fry (still perplexed that he is alive) comforts the woman he believes to be his grandmother. She drunkenly propositions him, and Fry deduces that since he's alive, she must not really be his grandma. Boy was he wrong [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|giving us the terms "nasty-in-the-past-y" and "past-nastification".]]

** To clarify, Fry meets his grandfather, Enos, in 1947 Roswell and becomes so afraid of getting him killed (and thus not existing) that he winds up causing him to die. Later, Fry (still perplexed that he is alive) comforts the woman he believes to be his grandmother. She drunkenly propositions him, and Fry deduces that since he's alive, she must not really be his grandma. Boy was he wrong [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|giving us the terms "nasty-in-the-past-y" and "past-nastification".]]

** By the way, this trope is why Fry's the only one capable of saving the universe and also explains why Fry ''not'' going into the future in "Anthology of Interest" causes the universe to self-destruct. By not getting frozen, he couldn't end up becoming his own grandfather, [[Fridge Brilliance|and thus caused a major paradox.]]

* In an episode of ''[[Xiaolin Showdown (Animation)|Xiaolin Showdown]]'', Dojo warns Omi that by using the Sands of Time, "You can end up becoming your own grandpa."

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