Naruto/Headscratchers: Difference between revisions

**** But two years to improve just Taijutsu? Okay, first, Naruto has huge chakra reserves, so it should make sense that Jiraiya should have trained him in ninjutsu more. Second, Naruto has been shown to be a quick learner when given the right motivation and teacher. Why didn't he improve all three jutsu aspects, instead of a barely noticeable just-one?

**** He did go from a crappy barely graduated genin taijutsu level to being capable of fighting on somewhat equal grounds with Kakashi taijutsu level. It's pretty noticable. He's just [[Overshadowed By Awesome]] because Sasuke and Sakura improved so much.

** He did learn quite a lot, but the problem is that it was a misplaced training. Naruto learned something that was useful for him, but quickly became obsolete/too dangerous to use/something Naruto didn't want to use/whatever. Granted, what Naruto had learned was still too little, seeing as there were things he should've been taught then, but maybe Jiraiya decided that instead of teaching Naruto subtlety, it's better to give him a training that will reinforce his current, pure-power-based style of combat (which would be still a mistake, but understandable at least).

** I think the answer here is that Naruto is the equivalent of those people who made it through high school without being able to read. Simply put, the system set up at the Ninja Academy failed him. Compare any of Naruto's Part I fights to the fight with Kakashi at the beginning of Part II. In Part I, Naruto pretty much just stumbled through his fights on sheer talent (his incredible amounts of chakra) and luck. He clearly never mastered the basics of fighting as a ninja; in Part I, he's easily the least polished fighter of the main cast. During the timeskip, Jiraiya basically retaught Naruto the basics of ninjutsu and taijutsu, and it clearly shows in Part II: Naruto's movements and attacks have the same level of polish and skill as any other fighter in the series. What Jiraiya did was give Naruto a strong base to build off of, leading to his vast improvements in strength over the course of Part II. That strong base is something that every ninja is supposed to get from the Ninja Academy, but Naruto never got that, which is why he needed that extra one-on-one training with Jiraiya.

** He's probably going to use Naruto/Kyuubi to do it. Madara seems to be part of his team now, and he can control the fox. Cue Naruto going berserker on the village, and Sasuke doesn't have to lift a finger. But then Sakura comes out of nowhere and tries to pump him full of kunai, so he has to fend her off, then the rest of the Konoha Eleven show up and- ... Wait, this isn't the Wild Mass Guessing page.

*** He's stated he's just going after the elders.

**** The scene where he says he is going to crush Konoha was a flashback that happened before the Hachibi fight. On the way to that fight, he told his team they were using Akatsuki. He is obviously lying to one side. Who would you lie to, the people who risk their lives fighting on your side or the guy that helped kill your entire clan?

*** That doesn't prove anything. He could just as easily be using Akatsuki to kill all of the people in Konoha.

** No kidding, they just threw him into the acadamy as young as possible (he's referred to as "the kid" by some of the other Konoha 11 however he had already failed the final year twice (which doesn't stop him from not having ever have seen Rock Lee, Neji or Ten Ten before by the way).

*** Nowhere is it ever stated that the final exam can only be taken once per year, and it can apparently be taken early seeing as how Kakashi graduated when he was only 5. For all we know he kept trying to graduate early or all 3 attempts took place within a month.

** Kakashi was like 14 when Minato died, and between Obito and whatever happened to Rin, musta had one hell of a complex about how everyone he got close to died, and would be afraid.

** Jiraya was Walking the Earth as per the Old Toad's prophesy, and didn't want Naruto to grow up on the road. He probably never checked in due to doing recon on Akatsuki in his spare time, and not wanting to lead them to Naruto.

=== Kages ===

* Okay, I admit, I haven't read the actual chapter itself, but I read somewhere else on this site that Minato considered the village over his family, and thus, sealing Kyuubi into baby Naruto and condemning himself and Kushina to death. Fine. But I wondered why it bugged me so much, I mean, yeah, the thought's uncomfortable, but sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do, right? Then I realized, why the fuck did this man decide to ''have'' a family in the first place if he was so willing to give it up? Especially considering that he was the frickin' Yellow Flash and would have numerous enemies coming after his loved ones. He obviously wasn't ready or responsible enough to start a family.

* When I was reading Kushina's account of Minato telling her his plan, he seemed to be telling her that he could use her life to seal the Kyuubi in Naruto (and since she was dying anyway, it wasn't a moral issue) but that if he did that then Naruto would only grow up having a loving legendary father who could protect him and care for him but never meet his dead mother and so instead it was better to get them both killed so that Naruto grows up alone but can have one single conversation with both dead parents. I get that mothers are important and whatnot but it really doesn't seem like one conversation with Kushina was worth ''forever'' without Minato.

** Could just be BS Minato was telling Kushina to comfort her about himself needing to die to seal the Kyuubi. If the Kyuubi died it A. Would have upset the balance of power between biju, weakened Konoha B. The thing would have resurrected even if it died, meaning another disaster was likely, Madara could make another grab for it, and this way they were able to contain it again C. This is all he could do for Kushina as he didn't save her in the first place.

* The common plot device of making Naruto not just not liked, but actively and constantly abused by most of the village up to having people try to kill him and come close on a regular basis. This makes absolutely no sense for at least 3 reasons: 1. The Hokage personally cares for Naruto. He knows him and is probably something of a surrogate father. It makes no sense for him to allow this kind of crap to happen. 2. Naruto's status as Jinchuuriki makes abusing him very dangerous (just look at Gaara) not just for the attacker but for the village itself. He might go on a rampage and do serious damage, or turn against Konoha. Either way, even if nobody likes Naruto, it's a very bad strategic mistake. 3. The promise to the Fourth that Naruto would be seen as a hero. Add that for instance Jiraiya would be expected to be interested in his wellbeing. Occasionally there is a mention of Naruto being expelled from the orphanage and living in the streets. This would make the Hokage into a complete failure. He makes the law in the village, and Naruto ought to be one of his top priorities for the above reasons. Additionally, this doesn't make for a good parallel with Gaara, because when he was little, Gaara was well meaning but with big control problems. He had a tendency to easily and very gorily kill people without meaning to. Naruto never had that kind of problem. </rant>

** Minato wanting Naruto to be seen as a hero seems to be worth nothing. Unless that is the only thing stopping Hiruzen from cheerfully handing Naruto over to Danzo (which is highly unlikely), then what good came out of Minato's wish? His wish that he never actually was able to tell Hiruzen and so he must have just sort of assumed or known that Minato wanted his child to be a hero before the Kyuubi attacked. If anything, Minato's desire might be why everyone knows about the sealing in the first place. The civilians, at least, would have totally bought that the Yondaime killed the Kyuubi and they seem to be the ones with the biggest problem with Naruto.

** Because when people do not like a character, they are often not inclined to be sympathetic to them and so it's easier to just make them a complete monster. Similarly, if they are especially fond of a character then they might not want to face what that character has actually done. Plus, if they want, say, Itachi accepted back into Konoha or to end up in a relationship with a non-missing-nin then it's easier if they were framed.

*** Which is really aggravating, since [[Black and White Morality]] is rather boring and unrealistic, the middle audience that doesn't love or hate a character think that the grayer the character the better, since it makes them more human.