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Imagine a game where about the only premise you get is that every player controls a nation. If they want, they can interact with others on a forum on the internet, ''about'' those nations.
Sounds strange? It's [[Better Than It Sounds]].
This is the premise of the
As you might guess, [[Broken Base|which part of ''Nationstates'' is]] [[Gambit Pileup|the real game]] [[Your Mileage May Vary|means something different for everyone]]. The Roleplaying aspect is commonly seen as a combination of 19th century [[The Empire|Imperial politics]], 20th century [[World War II|military strategy]] and cutting-edge 21st century military technology, along with some [[Schizo-Tech|older bits]].
Based off the story ''[[Jennifer Government]]'' by Max Barry. But not really. Here. have a [http://www.nationstates.net/ link.]
See also ''[[Cyber Nations]]'', a nation sim game with more focus on gameplay.
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{{tropelist}}
* [[Anarchy Is Chaos]]: Played straight. An anarchist nation is described as "in a state of perpetual fear, as a complete breakdown of social order has led to the rise of order through biker gangs." Averted by many roleplayers though.
* [[Author Appeal]]: The name of the nation, the type of government and its leadership (Monarch/President-for-Life/Sporting Superstar/Chief General/Jedi/Sith) is all named after the creator. It's their nation, after all.
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* [[Evil Versus Evil]]. Quite common.
* [[Follow the Leader]]: New nations will sometimes have a striking similarity to movies that have come out recently (and some old nations take from popular culture as well, without much alteration in many cases).
* [[Gambit Pileup]]: See the
* [[Government Agency of Fiction]]: More likely than you'd think.
* [[Government Procedural]]: Sometimes.
* [[Hello, Insert Name Here]]:
** You can pick your national animal and currency, which appears in the description like this (and may also appear in some of the daily issues you are given):
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*** For example, every time an issue involves animals they insert the name of the national animal, even if it wouldn't work with the given situation.
** The nation's capital city, leader, and national religion (if you want them) can be unlocked when your population reaches a high enough level (250 million, 750 million, and 1 billion respectively; it takes about 6 months to get to 1 billion).
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* [[I'm a Humanitarian]]: One of the issues gives you the option to legalize cannibalism in your nation.
* [[It Makes Sense in Context]]: Probably three-quarters of the forum-related stuff on this page, especially nation-specific examples, fall under this.
* [[Take a Third Option]]: Even when you feel an issue could only have two logical solutions, there's often another option that may or may not make sense. Example: allow public nudity, ban public nudity, or
* [[Non-Entity General]]: Originally played straight, now merely optional with the addition of nameable leaders.
* [[People's Republic of Tyranny]]: Always a choice.
* [[Privately-Owned Society]]: With the graphs, you can see your nation's economic division between private and public companies.
* [[Ripped from the Headlines]]: Quite a few of the issues; one referring to a particular Supreme Court case was written in less than a week. A lot of the time, when a real life tragedy occurs a whole bunch of copycat
* [[Running Gag]]: Until late 2010, "Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE" " and "Victory for gatesville!" were extremely common, and slightly annoying.
** Speaking of the WA, we might as well mention [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=christian_democrats Christian Democrats'] various and futile attempts to ban abortion via WA, and promptly getting laughed out by everyone else.
* [[Shout-Out]]: The "What's in a Name?" issue directly references ''[[The Prisoner]]'', with a suggestion that the nation's children be given numbers instead of names.
** "A Grave Problem" references ''[[Soylent Green]]'', by having an option to put corpses in fast-food burgers.
** "The Sky Is Falling": "A particularly bad spate of bombings, hijackings and [[Snakes
** The [[Monty Python's Flying Circus|"Nobody Expects The (your country name here) Inquisition!"]] issue regarding the possibility of a [[Exactly What It Says
** The "Please read: A personal appeal from [[
** The unit of measuring how Atheist a nation is is the "Dawkins".
** "Voter Apathy Rising But No One Cares": People are [[Exactly What It Says
* [[Silliness Switch]]: The Liberal and Conservative themes.
* [[Skeleton Government]]: No one wants to make up and explain all government ministries and offices.
* [[Super Soldier]]: Selecting the right answer for a certain issue will result in your soldiers becoming this. This is also common in Future Tech nations such as [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=bajireyn Bajireyn]
* [[Teens Are Monsters]]: If your nation is hard enough on youth crime or has big enough problems with it, that gets a special mention.
* [[Video Game Cruelty Potential|
* [[You Fail Economics Forever]]: A somewhat simplistic economic engine leads to oddities such as nations with the strongest possible economy ratings having 100% tax rates, no private sector, and no government funds spent on economic production. And that's before we get into the economic models some players propose their nations run on. [[Invoked Trope|Some nations even deliberately fail at economics]] to avert [[Mary Suetopia]]. Or become one.
* [[Zerg Rush]]
* [[Aesop Amnesia]]: Astholm, although he's gradually learning his lesson and his storefront now{{when}} is better than those, of, say 2010, or even 2011.
* [[
* [[Alternative Calendar]]: Many nations run on alternate starting dates, or even alternate systems of timekeeping entirely.
* [[Anyone Can Die]]: Varies from one nation to the next, but most of them have killed off their national leader at least once.
** Sadly, this is becoming far to common in the form of either sad plots or bad Role playing.
* [[April Fools]]:
** In 2010 Max Berry addressed the complaints of "bias" in the system by rotating the site between [http://conservative.nationstates.net/ "conservative"] and [http://liberal.nationstates.net/ "liberal"] versions throughout the day.
** In 2012 he supposedly gave all players 1 share in the "
* [[Arbitrary Maximum Range]]: Fleet combat relies on this.
* [[Author Appeal]]: Quite a few nations.
* [[Banana Republic]]: Various nations fully embrace the
* [[Berserk Button]]: Many characters have this.
* [[Black and Gray Morality]]: Most older nations become like this eventually out of sheer pragmatism.
* [[Bland-Name Product]]: Frequent.
* [[Blue and Orange Morality]]: Too many nations to list.
* [[Blue Blood]]: Personified by the nations of Imeriata and New Nicksyllvania
* [[Blob Monster]]: Sometimes straight out horrors, or [[Body Horror|cute little pets that are attached to their master's hips]]. Trash Slimes, for instance.
* [[Blood Sport]]: Specifically, one involving immigrants, if you choose the option in a certain issue.
* [[Brits With Battleships]]: [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ozymos Ozymos], the definition of the British Empah [[Recycled in Space|IN SPACE]].
* [[Our Dragons Are Different]]: [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=strykla Strykla] has his own race of bipedal
* [[Captain Ersatz]]: The automobile manufacturers appear to be this, with VLT a hybrid of Volkswagen, Fiat, Chrysler and Chevrolet in one.
** Beyazgunes appears to be based around FIAT and its products, although it does add Chinese-based cars every once in a while.
** Celsan (which has been [[Put
* [[Casual Interstellar Travel]]: Ask the FT roleplayers. [[Space Does Not Work That Way]] be damned.
** A lot of
* [[Church Militant]]: While less common than fascist or communist regimes, some nations do intertwine their military with a religious background.
** The nation of [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=tergnitz Tergnitz] is known for having a Church as the fourth branch of government.
* [[Con Lang]]: Some people actually designed the language for their nation instead of using an existing one or just implying a different one is used. [http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Category:Languages See here for a list of NS languages].
** The Ukkeld language, written by Astholm, is in development, a sort of mix of Old English, Old Norse and Turkic.
* [[Cool Boat]]: Many people design their own ships which leads too...
* [[Cool Ship]]: The FT
* [[Cool Plane]]: Played straight by damn near everyone in modern tech roleplays, most of whose Air Forces include the F-22, F-35, YF-23 or Sukhoi PAK FA.
** Some people go out of their ways to design new aircraft, in case real planes just aren't cool enough. Especially in Sci-Fi
** Sometimes subverted by communist and eastern bloc nations, who may well still have [[Mi G]]-21s and the like in their air forces.
* [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]]: Played straight and averted, sometimes within the same nation. Sometimes it seems that this is all some nations are. There are even certain regions to cater to these nations.
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* [[Deadpan Snarker]]: The mods.
** Some players are this two, in the telegram Gmodia and even Neomoskull, but that is rare.
* [[Death From Above]]: Some nations like to soften up their enemies with
** Take a lesson from FT nations, some like to Glass planets and others bombard it to nothingness.
* [[Deus Ex Nukina]]: Subverted: even threatening to use a nuke sparks massive flame wars.
* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: A common complaint by some people when confronted with [[Rule of Cool]] items in war roleplays.
** At least justified in FT, Chrilevolika said it best one time.
** Astholm ''was'' guilty of this a few times, but he got better as time progressed, at least with his storefront design.
* [[Disproportionate Retribution]]: The amount of
* [[Does This Remind You of Anything?]]: Ertzatz copies of nations both real and fictional abound.
* [[Dystopia]]: When there's a [[Police State]], it is probably this.
* [[Easy Logistics]]: A global map doesn't exist. Ships leave port and arrive at their destination a post later. Generally more experienced RPers try to factor in logistics in their equations.
** Semi justified in FT since there is FTL travel involved and it varies from a day to hours for some nations.
* [[Egopolis]]: Half of the RPers reach for this.
* [[Emotions vs. Stoicism]]
* [[Enemy Mine]]: Happens a lot. International politics can get very convoluted, much like in real life.
* [[Enforced Cold War]]: Lots in roleplay, mostly because there's no way to actually force someone to let you invade them. Regional wars sometimes escalate into this when enough regions get involved.
* [[Even Evil Has Standards]]: Certain evil nations tend to have qualms about things like [[A Slave to
* Everything's Better with Dinosaurs: Saursia and Whairtia, for different reasons however.
* [[False-Flag Operation]]: Not often, but people do it sometimes. Hard to pull off in a forum environment for obvious reasons, at least against the will of the target.
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* [[Fantastic Racism]]: [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=allied_governments Allied Governments].
** May be part of roleplays. Also referenced to in some of the issues.
*** Taken to an extreme on both sides with the rise of the [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic
* [[For the Evulz]]: The ''modus operandi'' of many poorly RPed evil nations.
* [[Full-Circle Revolution]]: Nations can and have gone from being a Monarchy, to a Socialist People's Republic, to a Fascist Dictatorship and then back to a Monarchy all within the same thread.
* [[Gene Hunt Interrogation Technique]]: The latest{{when}} trend there, and for some reason [[Fountain of Expies|expies]] of him appear recently.
* [[General Ripper]]: Everyone wants one.
* [[Gondor Calls for Aid]]: Occasionally.
* [[Good Republic, Evil Empire]]: Many dictatorships have no respect for human rights and dignity, most democracies do. At closer look they often might be [[Not So Different]].
* [[Gorgeous Period Dress]]: Some armies march into battle dressed resplendently. Overlaps somewhat with [[Bling of War]] and [[Highly-Conspicuous Uniform]], especially in Anglosphere nations.
* [[Gorn]]
** Ironically it is a national animal of a nation, it is apparently a rock animal.
* [[Government Conspiracy]]: Rarely.
* [[Government Information Adverts]]: News articles from seemingly 'independent' sources are usually just veiled and sometimes overt government propaganda.
* [[Grammar Nazi]]: Very common.
* [[Gratuitous German]]: Rampant among the German-based nations. One nation's motto is "Please stand clear of the doors" in German.
* [[Hand Wave]]: Every Future Tech nation out there seems to come from a [[Alternate Universe|different Earth]]. Some from a different planet altogether.
* [[House Pseudonym]]: Astholm, [[Depending
* [[I Don't Like the Sound of That Place]]: Numerous examples.
** Gholgoth and rape dungeons. That is all.
* [[I Have Many Names]]: [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=astholm Astholm], although these are just functional ones, designed to provide a lifelike context to the action in some cases where he won't use his (their? it's a [[House Pseudonym]]) main nation.
* [[I Know You Know I Know]]: Regional politics tend to turn into this alarmingly quickly, at least when war is involved.
* [[I'm a Humanitarian]]: Some nations really do invoke this trope.
* [[Intellectual Animal]]: Bears Armed roleplays as this.
** And [[Kangaroos Represent Australia|the Kangaroo Republic]].
** Any FT nation not from (The many, many fractal) Earth(s) technically applies, go even further and even Humans count.
* [[Informed Ability]]: Although almost everyone claims to have competent politicians and generals, many do not succeed in making this believable. Probably because they're not competent politicians and generals.
* [[Informed Flaw]]: If there is supposed to be a notable flaw, then there is pretty damn good chance that it will not get in the way when things get serious.
* [[Improbable Weapon User]]: The invasion/defense community. The game doesn't have an officially supported war system, and so a niche population of players hacked together a combat mechanic out of what amounts to bureaucratic white noise.
** [[Better Than It Sounds]] - the resulting political simulation is probably more realistic than most games deliberately created as such.
* [[Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique]]: There's an issue that allows you to let your military/law enforcement agencies torture people. It's also done in roleplay quite often, with variable quality.
* [[Katanas Are Just Better]]: Both subverted and played straight by many people.
* [[Knife Nut]]: FIX BAYONETS! (Just about everyone)
* [[Kudzu Plot]]: The histories of some nations would confuse even the writers of ''[[Lost]]''. On one of the off-site forums, they have nations whose histories are as professionally written as in Real Life.
** Some people actually have taken up huge originality, examples include [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=-byzentania- Byzentania] and [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=purpailia_draconica Purpailia Draconica] .
* [[La Résistance]]: Usually limpwristed, but there.
* [[Last Stand]]: Happens very
* [[Law of Conservation of Detail]]: Heavily played straight.
* [[Loads and Loads of Characters]]: If its not the number of players, then its within those nations who like to keep track of EVERYONE they've ever introduce, from Ambassadors to Parliamentarians.
* [[Macross Missile Massacre]]: Generally called just "Missilespam".
* [[Magic A Is Magic A]]: Mostly averted. There are many different magic-using nations out there, and [[Harry Potter|each]] [[Sword of Truth|one]] [[Magic:
** One could argue that [[Magic A Is Magic A]] does apply, but only within these regions.
* [[Martyrdom Culture]]: Too many examples to list. Just about everyone has their people more than willing to become a hero of the Empire/Republic/Confederation/Kingdom etc.
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** However involving said conspiracy does not guarantee RP success.
* [[Military Mashup Machine]]: You name it, it's been done. If it's been on a video game, it's been done at least twice.
* [[Mnogo Nukes]]: All Russian nations.
* [[More Dakka]]: Ubiquitous.
* [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast]]:
** Well, ''not quite''.
* [[Nice Hat]]: The ubiquitous pith helmet.
** And let's not forget Imeriata's
* [[Noob]]: You have no idea the level of hate players who have joined in the past 2 years get from those who have been playing for more than 3-4 years. Or from those who have been playing for more than 5-6 years. [[Overly Long Gag|Or those who have been playing since the game started.]]
* [[Not So Different]]: Ruthless genocide can be fun even if you are supposed to be [[The Federation]].
* [[No Swastikas]]: It's in the game rules.
* [[Nuke'Em]]: Carpet-nuking is a valid tactic at times. Though usually subverted, as the mere threat of a nuclear weapon is enough to cause a massive flame war.
** On the other hand, though, FT nations commonly deploy massive amounts of nukes and Antimatter weapon every battle.
* [[I Love Nuclear Power]]: Nuclear powered everything! Regular access to orbit by means of Project Orion! Nuclear tank rounds! Even [[Up to Eleven|81mm nuclear mortar rounds]] (with [[Shown Their Work|Shown Work (and exotic uranium isotopes)]]!
* [[Officer and
* [[One
* [[One World Order]]: What many players wish they could enforce.
* [[Our Presidents Are Different]]: If they exist at all and there are not 20 of them in one year.
* [[Paid Harem]]: It pops up from time to time, most commonly with a [[Sex Slave]] scenario.
* [[Patchwork Map]]: People will slap together a map with disregard for their climates. Or for national borders, in the case of nations that lay claim to the same real estate on Earths' continents. Amusingly, this has led to dozens of different versions of Earth for people who insist on having their preferred chunk of land.
** [[Wild Mass Guessing|Perhaps each country resides in their own]] [[Alternate Universe]]?
* [[Patriotic Fervor]]: Played ridiculously straight by most nations
** Said nations can definitely be described as a flavour one variant of [[Eagle Land]], where the US is replaced by nation ''x''.
* [[Peace Through Superior Firepower]]: Perpetually.
* [[Police State]]: '''Check.'''
* [[President Evil]]: It is more fun to [[Role Play]] a completely evil leader than a nice democratically elected president, thus many nations are ruled by mindbendingly evil dictators. Most nations fail at it, and just seem like a 12-year-old just finished playing ''Grand Theft Auto''.
** Considering the demographics of this game...
*** Well, F7 anyways. The average NSer is in the 18-30 demographic, I believe.
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* [[Product Placement]]: The game was created to advertise ''[[Jennifer Government]]''. There even exists an issue referring to the book, which among other things allow you to ban it in your nation.
** Conveniently enough, if you bought any of Max Barry's books, you can use the "Remove Ad" button to get rid of the ad banners.
* [[Psycho for Hire]]: Quite a few nations that are essentially big mercenary companies are like this.
* [[Putting
** [[Invoked Trope|Referenced most prominently]] by [http://www.nationstates.net/region=the_greater_german_reich The Greater German Reich], the largest Nazi-based region in NS.
* [[Petting Zoo People]]: Often a minority in several nations, occasionally a nation made up of these will appear but they usually get destroyed by an evil nation to [[Kick the Dog|show how evil they are]] or [[For the Evulz|because they can.]] Also, see [[Fantastic Racism]] above.
* [[Put
** It's due to:
*** [[Creator Provincialism]], [[Write What You Know]], [[Write Who You Know]], [[Artist Disillusionment]] - all of which caused the storefront to fail, but then again, with help on the forums, Celsan's role may be [[Commuting
** In-game, Van Luxemburg sold off Celsan Automotive LLC for ''precisely this reason''!
* [[Reality Is Unrealistic]]: More common than you'd think.
* [[Redshirt Army]]: Poor bastards who get steamrolled. Many communist nations have these.
* [[Retcon]]: More likely than you'd think. This happens quite a bit when someone gets bored with a roleplay and wanders off without bothering to finish it, or when someone doesn't like the way a role play is going. Given that players are allowed to ignore anything they don't like by the site rules, this can be a source of frustration for some, as there are no permanent consequences unless a player is willing to allow them.
** Astholm nearly retconned Celsan, but decided it wasn't worth interfering with what was canon.
* [[The Revolution Will Not Be Civilized]]: Most of them aren't.
* [[Roma]]: Traditionally the [[Butt Monkey
* [[Rouge Angles of Satin]]: Sadly, happens quite a bit. Though there are some really good writers on this site's forums, there are some ''very'' bad ones too. Rarely will a bad writer on NS improve, and most good RPers were already good from the get-go.
* [[Rule of Cool]]: Used so often it has acquired its own [[Catch Phrase]]: "But this is NS!"
* [[Rule of Funny]]: Used especially in sports roleplaying excessively.
* [[Satire, Parody, Pastiche]]
* [[Screw the Rules, I Make Them]]
* [[Sex Slave]]: A Berserk Button for many, given it's usually done in rather poor taste.
* [[Shout-Out]]: There are many, many nations that copy things from various fictional works. The Celsan Vextra being a [[Shout-Out]] to the Opel Vectra, albeit with the "X" factor of its name.
* [[Shown Their Work]]: A substantial number of players have put quite a lot of thought into their nations, and it shows. To a smaller extent, some people spend months and months designing tanks, ships, planes, and other items for their fictional militaries to use.
** [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=astholm Astholm] does this trope to an average level; his designs may be unoriginal, in styling terms, but at least he gets the car technology right, well, interiors and running gear, if not engines.
* [[Space Does Not Work That Way]]. 99% of [[Faster-Than-Light Travel|Faster Than Light drives]] rely on this.
** At least some FT nations use the String Theory as a reason on how it can work.
* [[Spin-Off]]: While a few have been created, the most popular version is a form of [[R Ping]] via the medium of text-messaging, aptly named SMS.
* [[Spy Fiction]]
* [[Start X to Stop X]]: A classic motive for regional coups. Sometimes [[The Extremist Was Right|it works]]. Other times....[[It Got Worse|Not so much]].
* [[Strange Bedfellows]]: A recurring theme of any
* [[Strawman Political]]: Overlaps with [[Easy Evangelism]]. And, of course, you can find them in nearly every thread on the message board.
* [[Straw Feminist]]: Several nations oppress their male population. [[Lady Land|Some don't even ''have'' a male population.]]
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* [[Stupid Sexy Flanders]]: With Spanish soccer player Fernando Torres in the Flanders role. Ask the sports roleplayers.
* [[Sukhomlinov Effect]]: Subverted. Some of the better militaries are extremely fashionable.
* [[Super Soldier]]: A popular trope that is rarely done well.
* [[Tank Goodness]]: Many players design their own tanks, practical or not. Some also like using tanks from their favourite games and movies. If it's been on paper or screen, it's probably shown up here at some point.
** [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=lyras Lyras] stands far above everyone else in this department.
* [[The Evils of Free Will]]: A common view of Dystopias.
* [[The Federation]]
* [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill]]: Carpet nukespam. ''On the tactical level.''
** And taken to new heights by the FT roleplaying population. Care for a weapon that can drive a sun into supernova? Hows about a wormhole weapons
* [[The Revolution Will Not Be Civilized]]: It is rare that any kind of political or economic turmoil, not matter how trivial it may seem, does ''not'' end up turning into some form of armed conflict.
* [[The Spartan Way]]
* [[The Virus]]: [http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=117931 We are the Rethast. Your species is now obsolete.]
* [[The War Room]]
* [[Those Wacky Nazis]]: All Nazi-based Nations and Regions. There are a lot, and most are incredibly stupid. Some have even been condemned by other nations. Most characters in character
* [[The Wiki Rule]]: The site has a dedicated Wiki for all member nations to expand on their nations called [http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Main_Page called NSWiki]. Some nations break away and create a Wiki solely for their nation.
* [[Utopia]]: Many non-evil nations are the vision of the player of a perfect government. Some of the ''evil'' nations are '''also''' their player's version of a perfect government, even if it horrifies other players. See [[Dystopia]].
* [[Unusual Euphemism]]: "Slani". Again, ask the sports roleplayers.
* [[Vestigial Empire]]: Can happen to regions if they aren't careful.
* [[Villain
* [[War Is Glorious]]: What everyone would like to believe. Thanks to state propaganda, many populations believe in this absolutely. Most bad RPers will often play this straight and make a nation full of chest-beating nationalists.
* [[War Is Hell]]: Corps sized formations wiped out in under 10 minutes by artillery bombardment, mass use of nerve gas, napalm and landmines, aerial bombardment that lasts for weeks. God help you if you survive and get captured.
* [[We Have Reserves]]: Who cares about casualties anyway. They're all just statistics. Many players pursue a zero sum course of action-- fight to the last man in the nation regardless of anything.
* [[Wooden Ships and Iron Men]]: Some nations still have a naval mentality dating back to this period.
* [[Writing Around Trademarks]]: As far as is known, the nation of Astholm is a possible version of this for European countries.
* [[Yanks With Tanks]]: A lot of the "American" nations. Subverted by a few people whose nations are almost nothing like their American historical origins.
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** The important thing to note is that this is all your fault. [[You Bastard|You bastard!]]
* [[Balance of Power]]: Varies between the WA Delegates in each region, depending on their influence and number of endorsements in their regions.
** Present WA superpowers (Type A) include [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=just_guy Just Guy] and [http://www.nationstates.net/nation=alsted Alsted], whereas Type E consists of regional delegates with less than 10 endorsements.
* [[Big International Clubs]]: Definitely one of these. Membership is voluntary, though.
* [[Bland-Name Product]]: Started out as THE [[United Nations]], [http://www.maxbarry.com/2008/04/02/news.html before the real UN threatened to sue.]
* [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]]: Invoked by proponents
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