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** Even ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' gets in on the joke, where he regularly knocks some [[Badass|badassery]] into such pilots as ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Shinji Ikari]]''.
** Even ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' gets in on the joke, where he regularly knocks some [[Badass|badassery]] into such pilots as ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Shinji Ikari]]''.
** Similarly, Dozle Zabi only says "Once the Big Zam is mass produced..." ''once''. And its one of the most memorable lines in the series. Same applies to Ramba Ral's "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!!!"
** Similarly, Dozle Zabi only says "Once the Big Zam is mass produced..." ''once''. And its one of the most memorable lines in the series. Same applies to Ramba Ral's "This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!!!"
** [[After War Gundam X|Olba Frost]] has a great deal of hatedom due to ''one'' episode where he became furious at the heroes for hurting his brother. Never mind his big brother got injured [[Taking the Bullet|taking an attack for him]]. Never mind [[Dark and Troubled Past|they've gone through so much hell]] that they only have each other for emotional support. Never mind for the ''rest of the series'' he's a perfectly calm and composed person. Never mind [["Well Done, Son" Guy|he wants to redeem himself in the eyes of his brother]] and stand on his own two feet. Nope, he's a sniveling male [[Yandere]], through and through. Even Olba's own [[Nozomu Sasaki|voice actor]] dislikes the guy because of all this.
** [[After War Gundam X|Olba Frost]] has a great deal of hatedom due to ''one'' episode where he became furious at the heroes for hurting his brother. Never mind his big brother got injured [[Taking the Bullet|taking an attack for him]]. Never mind [[Dark and Troubled Past|they've gone through so much hell]] that they only have each other for emotional support. Never mind for the ''rest of the series'' he's a perfectly calm and composed person. Never mind [["Well Done, Son" Guy|he wants to redeem himself in the eyes of his brother]] and stand on his own two feet. Nope, he's a sniveling male [[Yandere (disambiguation)]], through and through. Even Olba's own [[Nozomu Sasaki|voice actor]] dislikes the guy because of all this.
*** Which is a shame, as there are other, far more legitimate reasons to dislike him and Shagia.
*** Which is a shame, as there are other, far more legitimate reasons to dislike him and Shagia.
** If you listen to the internet, [[Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny|Lunamaria Hawke]] couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if she was standing inside it because she missed a shot on a civilian shuttle moving on a relatively predictable course. On the one hand, episode 7 establishes her as a lousy shot in person when she couldn't get a bullseye at the shooting range. On the other, her ZAKU's [[Weapon of Choice]] is a long-range beam cannon...
** If you listen to the internet, [[Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny|Lunamaria Hawke]] couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if she was standing inside it because she missed a shot on a civilian shuttle moving on a relatively predictable course. On the one hand, episode 7 establishes her as a lousy shot in person when she couldn't get a bullseye at the shooting range. On the other, her ZAKU's [[Weapon of Choice]] is a long-range beam cannon...
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*** This is also in part because in the first part of the series, Kira pulled some tricks with the Strike Gundam that even detractors will call clever. After he gets the Freedom, this pretty much disappears in favor of the aforementioned "beat viewers over the head with the fact that Freedom has lots of guns".
*** This is also in part because in the first part of the series, Kira pulled some tricks with the Strike Gundam that even detractors will call clever. After he gets the Freedom, this pretty much disappears in favor of the aforementioned "beat viewers over the head with the fact that Freedom has lots of guns".
** [[Mobile Suit Gundam 00|Nena Trinity]] crossed the [[Moral Event Horizon]] of the wedding shooting. Then afterwards, things got rather worse for her and she's forced to lay low, be less psychotic, helping Wang Liu Mei and when she mistreats her, Nena starts with leaking information that Liu Mei withheld to the Celestial Being, saving many lives, and when Liu Mei got even worse, Nena snapped again and killed her. While she's definitely a nutcase and generally not caring about other people's life, she's able to do both good and evil, and [[Fridge Horror|she's got a really tragic existance too]] which, while not absolving her of ANY crime, does mean she is perfectly able to be pitied. Of course, fans only remembered that one wedding incident and think that's all Nena ever did, thereby she's [[Complete Monster|an unforgivable evil little bitch]].
** [[Mobile Suit Gundam 00|Nena Trinity]] crossed the [[Moral Event Horizon]] of the wedding shooting. Then afterwards, things got rather worse for her and she's forced to lay low, be less psychotic, helping Wang Liu Mei and when she mistreats her, Nena starts with leaking information that Liu Mei withheld to the Celestial Being, saving many lives, and when Liu Mei got even worse, Nena snapped again and killed her. While she's definitely a nutcase and generally not caring about other people's life, she's able to do both good and evil, and [[Fridge Horror|she's got a really tragic existance too]] which, while not absolving her of ANY crime, does mean she is perfectly able to be pitied. Of course, fans only remembered that one wedding incident and think that's all Nena ever did, thereby she's [[Complete Monster|an unforgivable evil little bitch]].
*** Probably a ''worse'' case than Nena is Flay Allster from ''[[Gundam Seed]]'', whom Nena [[Expy|physically resembles even]]. Like Nena, Flay was a crazy, evil bitch who did terrible things, but like Nena, she also ended up doing good things as the show went on. ''Unlike'' Nena, Flay actually redeemed herself [[Heel Face Turn|the whole way]], and worked very hard to make amends before [[Redemption Equals Death|she is killed by the]] [[Big Bad]]. Fandom's reaction to all this? [[The Scrappy|"Who cares what Flay did to redeem herself; all her ealier bitchery makes it null and void!"]]
*** Probably a ''worse'' case than Nena is Flay Allster from ''[[Gundam Seed]]'', whom Nena [[Expy|physically resembles even]]. Like Nena, Flay was a crazy, evil bitch who did terrible things, but like Nena, she also ended up doing good things as the show went on. ''Unlike'' Nena, Flay actually redeemed herself [[Heel Face Turn|the whole way]], and worked very hard to make amends before [[Redemption Equals Death|she is killed by the]] [[Big Bad]]. Fandom's reaction to all this? [[The Scrappy|"Who cares what Flay did to redeem herself; all her ealier bitchery makes it null and void!"]]
* Every member of the primary cast of ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing|Gundam Wing]]'' has at least one minor trait or famous moment that ended up being their standard fanfic portrayal. Sadly, this blatantly ignores the [[Character Development]] that sees the characters grow out of those attitudes, which in turn results in people [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|savaging the series for having shallow, one-dimensional characters]].
* Every member of the primary cast of ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam Wing|Gundam Wing]]'' has at least one minor trait or famous moment that ended up being their standard fanfic portrayal. Sadly, this blatantly ignores the [[Character Development]] that sees the characters grow out of those attitudes, which in turn results in people [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|savaging the series for having shallow, one-dimensional characters]].
** At the start of the series Heero is full of self-loathing and tries to [[The Atoner|atone]] by [[Death Seeker|putting his life on the line constantly]] - so much so that an off-hand line of dialog ("Life comes cheap, especially mine") has become a tertiary [[Catch Phrase]]. Combined with the above, he's also poratrayed as '''constantly''' trying to self-destruct his Gundam, when he only did that once in the TV series, {{spoiler|he was facing an ultimatum to either hand over his Gundam or have the colonies' inhabitants slaughtered, and chose to [[Take a Third Option]] through [[Heroic Sacrifice]].}}
** At the start of the series Heero is full of self-loathing and tries to [[The Atoner|atone]] by [[Death Seeker|putting his life on the line constantly]] - so much so that an off-hand line of dialog ("Life comes cheap, especially mine") has become a tertiary [[Catch Phrase]]. Combined with the above, he's also poratrayed as '''constantly''' trying to self-destruct his Gundam, when he only did that once in the TV series, {{spoiler|he was facing an ultimatum to either hand over his Gundam or have the colonies' inhabitants slaughtered, and chose to [[Take a Third Option]] through [[Heroic Sacrifice]].}}
*** He did try to kill himself two other times. First, on the beach when Relena found him in Episode 1. He fired an explosive charge in his pressure suit, but was only designed for [[Thrown Out the Airlock|in-space suicide by breaching the suit and evacuating its air]]. On the ground, it didn't even injure him. Second, in episode 3, when he at first didn't pull his parachute jumping out of the military hospital tower Duo broke him out of; he pulled it last-second, and only broke a leg.
*** He did try to kill himself two other times. First, on the beach when Relena found him in Episode 1. He fired an explosive charge in his pressure suit, but was only designed for [[Thrown Out the Airlock|in-space suicide by breaching the suit and evacuating its air]]. On the ground, it didn't even injure him. Second, in episode 3, when he at first didn't pull his parachute jumping out of the military hospital tower Duo broke him out of; he pulled it last-second, and only broke a leg.
** Relena only yelled Heero's name out loud ''thrice'' in the series (plus once more in the dub), yet people bash her as if she finished ''every'' episode with a [[Say My Name]] scream. She's also treated as a [[Yandere]] or a [[Stalker with a Crush]] despite the fact that she went to visit Heero all of once and remarked about it a few scenes later<ref>"I've come all the way here just to chase after a guy. Are you surprised, Father? But I couldn't help myself; I wanted to see him so badly. Can you understand how I feel, Father? Heero's the support I need to have around until I can get over my sadness over you. But he keeps running away from me..."</ref>. (She did track him down a second time, but that was because she was afraid he would try to kill himself and had something she thought would convince him otherwise.)
** Relena only yelled Heero's name out loud ''thrice'' in the series (plus once more in the dub), yet people bash her as if she finished ''every'' episode with a [[Say My Name]] scream. She's also treated as a [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] or a [[Stalker with a Crush]] despite the fact that she went to visit Heero all of once and remarked about it a few scenes later<ref>"I've come all the way here just to chase after a guy. Are you surprised, Father? But I couldn't help myself; I wanted to see him so badly. Can you understand how I feel, Father? Heero's the support I need to have around until I can get over my sadness over you. But he keeps running away from me..."</ref>. (She did track him down a second time, but that was because she was afraid he would try to kill himself and had something she thought would convince him otherwise.)
*** There are also people who claim that she's constantly being kidnapped and in need of rescue, rather like [[Bleach|Orihime]] later on. Relena was kidnapped all of once in the anime (''Endless Waltz''), but people also tend to label her imprisonment by Romefeller as a kidnapping, ignoring that it was [[Take Me Instead!|intentional]] and [[Reassignment Backfire|had a positive outcome]]. And late in the series, she's held hostage on the space fortress Libra, but that was a snap decision by the person responsible and done while ignoring the chain of command, rather than orders by White Fang's leader to detain her.
*** There are also people who claim that she's constantly being kidnapped and in need of rescue, rather like [[Bleach|Orihime]] later on. Relena was kidnapped all of once in the anime (''Endless Waltz''), but people also tend to label her imprisonment by Romefeller as a kidnapping, ignoring that it was [[Take Me Instead!|intentional]] and [[Reassignment Backfire|had a positive outcome]]. And late in the series, she's held hostage on the space fortress Libra, but that was a snap decision by the person responsible and done while ignoring the chain of command, rather than orders by White Fang's leader to detain her.
**** Relena might as well get an award for this, since even the first things she ever says get this. In the first episode she asks her father to "leave yourself a little bit of free time" on his business trips, causing some to call her an [[Attention Whore]] for demanding he ignore his work to spend time with her. This ignores the fact that they are very obviously a loving family and that Relena was invited on the trip specifically so that she and her father could have some time together, only for him to have to back out due to his obligations. Not to mention that four episodes later, they go on another trip together and she takes his being busy much better.
**** Relena might as well get an award for this, since even the first things she ever says get this. In the first episode she asks her father to "leave yourself a little bit of free time" on his business trips, causing some to call her an [[Attention Whore]] for demanding he ignore his work to spend time with her. This ignores the fact that they are very obviously a loving family and that Relena was invited on the trip specifically so that she and her father could have some time together, only for him to have to back out due to his obligations. Not to mention that four episodes later, they go on another trip together and she takes his being busy much better.
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*** Other cite the Lust arc as her biggest [[Never Live It Down]] moment, and for good reason too. It is one of the few times in any kind of story where you will find a healer begging their half dead patient to '''save them'''.
*** Other cite the Lust arc as her biggest [[Never Live It Down]] moment, and for good reason too. It is one of the few times in any kind of story where you will find a healer begging their half dead patient to '''save them'''.
** Also, the fandom joke in which Rukia is the poster girl for [[Impaled with Extreme Prejudice]]. Actually, ''Ichigo'' gets impaled more than she ever does, and once she's actually the one ''doing'' the impalement to someone else ( {{spoiler|Kaien}}).
** Also, the fandom joke in which Rukia is the poster girl for [[Impaled with Extreme Prejudice]]. Actually, ''Ichigo'' gets impaled more than she ever does, and once she's actually the one ''doing'' the impalement to someone else ( {{spoiler|Kaien}}).
* ''[[Naruto]]'':
* ''[[Naruto]]'':
** The early dub for the anime involved a large amount of "believe it"s to cover for Naruto's peculiar speech pattern(appending "dattebayo" to his sentences). While this was reduced later on as the anime gained American popularity, many believe he says "believe it" every five words.
** The early dub for the anime involved a large amount of "believe it"s to cover for Naruto's peculiar speech pattern(appending "dattebayo" to his sentences). While this was reduced later on as the anime gained American popularity, many believe he says "believe it" every five words.
** Sasuke Uchiha's haters who claim he was always an impossibly huge [[Jerkass]], instead of just aloof and somewhat rude - mostly in response to Naruto and Sakura ''genuinely irritating him'' (he [[Sanity Slippage|gets worse]] later, but this is about how he acted at the start). For example, many are quick to cite all the times that he's put down Naruto, but forget that Naruto is the same way towards him and much louder about it. People also tend to exaggerate how many times he's told Sakura she was annoying. He said it twice. Once when she actually was being annoying, and when he barely knew her, and the other time was him joking/being sarcastic {{spoiler|[[Face Heel Turn|when he was about to leave Konoha and goes to Orochimaru]]}}.
** Sasuke Uchiha's haters who claim he was always an impossibly huge [[Jerkass]], instead of just aloof and somewhat rude - mostly in response to Naruto and Sakura ''genuinely irritating him'' (he [[Sanity Slippage|gets worse]] later, but this is about how he acted at the start). For example, many are quick to cite all the times that he's put down Naruto, but forget that Naruto is the same way towards him and much louder about it. People also tend to exaggerate how many times he's told Sakura she was annoying. He said it twice. Once when she actually was being annoying, and when he barely knew her, and the other time was him joking/being sarcastic {{spoiler|[[Face Heel Turn|when he was about to leave Konoha and goes to Orochimaru]]}}.
** Sai asked Naruto a few times when they first met if Naruto had male genitalia, as an insult no less. But from the way to fans talk you'd think every other word out of Sai's mouth is penis, even as he runs around brandishing a measuring tape.
** Sai asked Naruto a few times when they first met if Naruto had male genitalia, as an insult no less. But from the way to fans talk you'd think every other word out of Sai's mouth is penis, even as he runs around brandishing a measuring tape.
** Neji was a total [[Jerkass]] to [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Hinata]] prior to his [[Character Development]]. Even after the development transpires and Neji starts very clearly treating Hinata with care, fandom still doesn't let go of his past misdeeds.
** Neji was a total [[Jerkass]] to [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Hinata]] prior to his [[Character Development]]. Even after the development transpires and Neji starts very clearly treating Hinata with care, fandom still doesn't let go of his past misdeeds.
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** Kakashi very often suffers from this. He invariably teaches Sasuke the Chidori and all of a sudden he plays favourites and all he wants is to train Sasuke, while hating Naruto, ignoring that teaching Sasuke this was for Sasuke's own good ''beyond'' mere strength as a ninja, and generally Kakashi plays favorites the ''least'' out of the various sensei (like Gai with Lee, Asuma with Shikamaru, or Kurenai with Hinata.)
** Kakashi very often suffers from this. He invariably teaches Sasuke the Chidori and all of a sudden he plays favourites and all he wants is to train Sasuke, while hating Naruto, ignoring that teaching Sasuke this was for Sasuke's own good ''beyond'' mere strength as a ninja, and generally Kakashi plays favorites the ''least'' out of the various sensei (like Gai with Lee, Asuma with Shikamaru, or Kurenai with Hinata.)
** No mention of the [[Accidental Kiss]] between Naruto and Sasuke back in episode 3? For shame.
** No mention of the [[Accidental Kiss]] between Naruto and Sasuke back in episode 3? For shame.
* From hearing the so-called "Fans" talk, you'd think all [[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'s Shinji Ikari ever does is sit around [[Wangst|wangsting]] endlessly, only ever ceasing to do so to [[Dude, She's Like, in a Coma|masturbate over comatose girls]]. Actually, he spends most of the series being a kind and helpful, [[Determined Defeatist|if not very confident]] young man who risks his life to save the world in battles against reality defying [[Eldritch Abominations]] despite the fact that he's understandably terrified of them. He is also quite efficient in battle, so much that Asuka is jealous of him. You gotta forgive him for ending up as a mental wreck after {{spoiler|his relationship with his father (which was never all that good to begin with) was utterly shattered, his best friend (Toji) was maimed, his mentor/father figure (Kaji) was murdered which caused his mother figure/guardian (Misato) to fall into depression, one of his love interests (Asuka) utterly rejected him and ended up being brutally [[Mind Rape]]-d soon after, shortly before his other love interest (Rei) pulled a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] to save him, all that while Shinji was forced to watch helplessly by circumstances he had no control over. Rei was then replaced by a clone that looked the same,[[Came Back Wrong|but did not exactly act the same.]] [[Hope Spot|Then, Shinji met a nice boy (Kaworu) that thought he was really awesome and wanted to be his friend]] - turns out he is actually the [[Monster of the Week]] and Shinji has to kill the only person who ever said "I like you" to his face.}} Did I mention that [[The Messiah|he still]] [[Badass|saves the world after this?]]
* From hearing the so-called "Fans" talk, you'd think all [[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'s Shinji Ikari ever does is sit around [[Wangst|wangsting]] endlessly, only ever ceasing to do so to [[Dude, She's Like, in a Coma|masturbate over comatose girls]]. Actually, he spends most of the series being a kind and helpful, [[Determined Defeatist|if not very confident]] young man who risks his life to save the world in battles against reality defying [[Eldritch Abominations]] despite the fact that he's understandably terrified of them. He is also quite efficient in battle, so much that Asuka is jealous of him. You gotta forgive him for ending up as a mental wreck after {{spoiler|his relationship with his father (which was never all that good to begin with) was utterly shattered, his best friend (Toji) was maimed, his mentor/father figure (Kaji) was murdered which caused his mother figure/guardian (Misato) to fall into depression, one of his love interests (Asuka) utterly rejected him and ended up being brutally [[Mind Rape]]-d soon after, shortly before his other love interest (Rei) pulled a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] to save him, all that while Shinji was forced to watch helplessly by circumstances he had no control over. Rei was then replaced by a clone that looked the same,[[Came Back Wrong|but did not exactly act the same.]] [[Hope Spot|Then, Shinji met a nice boy (Kaworu) that thought he was really awesome and wanted to be his friend]] - turns out he is actually the [[Monster of the Week]] and Shinji has to kill the only person who ever said "I like you" to his face.}} Did I mention that [[The Messiah|he still]] [[Badass|saves the world after this?]]
** Also, Rei. The first episode to properly focus on her clearly establishes her as a [[Sugar and Ice Personality]] who ''does'' have emotions, but apparently, four episodes of sitting around enigmatically are enough to brand yourself as ''[[Rei Ayanami Expy|the]]'' [[Emotionless Girl]].
** Also, Rei. The first episode to properly focus on her clearly establishes her as a [[Sugar and Ice Personality]] who ''does'' have emotions, but apparently, four episodes of sitting around enigmatically are enough to brand yourself as ''[[Rei Ayanami Expy|the]]'' [[Emotionless Girl]].
** Among ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' fans, Toji is known for being violent because of a fight with Shinji. Toji is normally a pacifist, and it relates to the same reason he picked a fight with Shinji: the reason he was pissed at him was how his sister was injured in an Eva battle.
** Among ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' fans, Toji is known for being violent because of a fight with Shinji. Toji is normally a pacifist, and it relates to the same reason he picked a fight with Shinji: the reason he was pissed at him was how his sister was injured in an Eva battle.
** Misato is often characterized as [[Drives Like Crazy|a crazy driver]] by fans due to a scene in the anime where she deliberately (and playfully) acted like one to give Shinji a scare.
** Misato is often characterized as [[Drives Like Crazy|a crazy driver]] by fans due to a scene in the anime where she deliberately (and playfully) acted like one to give Shinji a scare.
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*** Likewise Pokemon in the west has been unable to live down the reputation of things that happened during the "fad" years.
*** Likewise Pokemon in the west has been unable to live down the reputation of things that happened during the "fad" years.
** Ash, in one episode, complained about the idea of helping Team Rocket's Pokemon because "they're the bad guys". Fanon (particularly rabid Rocketshippers) has since latched onto the idea of him being a heartless [[Jerkass]] when it comes to Team Rocket, even going out of his way to hurt them or anyone else who would help them in any way.
** Ash, in one episode, complained about the idea of helping Team Rocket's Pokemon because "they're the bad guys". Fanon (particularly rabid Rocketshippers) has since latched onto the idea of him being a heartless [[Jerkass]] when it comes to Team Rocket, even going out of his way to hurt them or anyone else who would help them in any way.
** The fourth iteration of the ''Pokemon'' anime, ''Best Wishes'', seems destined to be remembered first and foremost for the airing of the climactic, [[Story Arc]]-concluding "Team Rocket vs. Team Plasma" two-parter being postponed for ''well over a year'' due to [[Too Soon|the 2011 Tohou earthquake and tsunami happening the week before it's originally intended airdate.]]
** The fourth iteration of the ''Pokemon'' anime, ''Best Wishes'', seems destined to be remembered first and foremost for the airing of the climactic, [[Story Arc]]-concluding "Team Rocket vs. Team Plasma" two-parter being postponed for ''well over a year'' due to [[Too Soon|the 2011 Tohou earthquake and tsunami happening the week before it's originally intended airdate.]]
* Thanks to the predominance of [[Fanon]] for ''[[Ranma ½]]'', many of the characters suffer Never Live It Down to some extent.
* Thanks to the predominance of [[Fanon]] for ''[[Ranma ½]]'', many of the characters suffer Never Live It Down to some extent.
** [[Tsundere|Akane Tendo]] used a mallet to hit her [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold]] fiancé twice in the anime, and only a few times in the manga... but lots of people also used mallets, including Ranma (more often than Akane,) Soun, Genma, and a few oneshot characters. In fanfiction, she's the only one who's ever known to use a mallet when things get violent, despite the fact she canonically prefers her fist (and a shinai, to a lesser extent, in the anime version).
** [[Tsundere|Akane Tendo]] used a mallet to hit her [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold]] fiancé twice in the anime, and only a few times in the manga... but lots of people also used mallets, including Ranma (more often than Akane,) Soun, Genma, and a few oneshot characters. In fanfiction, she's the only one who's ever known to use a mallet when things get violent, despite the fact she canonically prefers her fist (and a shinai, to a lesser extent, in the anime version).
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*** Also, according to fandom [[Murder the Hypotenuse|"Obstacles are for KILLING!"]]. There were only TWO times when she either ''seriously'' said so (in front Ranma and Akane, when she actually was under [[Mind Control]] and was ordered to kill Ranma) or thought so (Taro kidnapped Akane, Shampoo intended to kill her and lay the blame on Taro, although she never actually voiced the plan, and she fell victim to a cold water trap that the [[Genre Savvy]] Taro set to keep anyone to approach Akane). The others involved more the [[Honor Before Reason|"I'm an Amazon and you're my love rival, so it can't be helped!"]] gig than trying to murder Akane bloodily [[For the Evulz|just for shits and giggles]] or [[Complete Monster|to cruelly and venomously spite Ranma for not choosing her]].
*** Also, according to fandom [[Murder the Hypotenuse|"Obstacles are for KILLING!"]]. There were only TWO times when she either ''seriously'' said so (in front Ranma and Akane, when she actually was under [[Mind Control]] and was ordered to kill Ranma) or thought so (Taro kidnapped Akane, Shampoo intended to kill her and lay the blame on Taro, although she never actually voiced the plan, and she fell victim to a cold water trap that the [[Genre Savvy]] Taro set to keep anyone to approach Akane). The others involved more the [[Honor Before Reason|"I'm an Amazon and you're my love rival, so it can't be helped!"]] gig than trying to murder Akane bloodily [[For the Evulz|just for shits and giggles]] or [[Complete Monster|to cruelly and venomously spite Ranma for not choosing her]].
** Akane stopped calling Ranma "pervert" relatively early on in the manga, and when she used it again after many, many volumes of absence, the obvious [[Call Back]] [[Crowning Moment of Funny|made it very funny]]. To the fandom, it's pretty much her [[Catch Phrase]]. Though she does frequently accuse him of lecherous intentions, it's rare that she actually ''says'' "pervert".
** Akane stopped calling Ranma "pervert" relatively early on in the manga, and when she used it again after many, many volumes of absence, the obvious [[Call Back]] [[Crowning Moment of Funny|made it very funny]]. To the fandom, it's pretty much her [[Catch Phrase]]. Though she does frequently accuse him of lecherous intentions, it's rare that she actually ''says'' "pervert".
* In ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'', [[Shrinking Violet|Nodoka]] will forever be considered the series' foremost [[Covert Pervert]] after she came up with [http://www.mangafox.com/manga/mahou_sensei_negima/v18/c165/8.html a certain] [[Tenchi Solution|solution]] to the love triangle involving [[OT 3|herself, Negi, and Yue]]. Granted, she ''is'' a [[Covert Pervert]], but her fantasizing (which is only actually seen about 3 times in 250+ manga chapters) is greatly exaggerated by the fandom.
* In ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'', [[Shrinking Violet|Nodoka]] will forever be considered the series' foremost [[Covert Pervert]] after she came up with [http://www.mangafox.com/manga/mahou_sensei_negima/v18/c165/8.html a certain] [[Tenchi Solution|solution]] to the love triangle involving [[OT3|herself, Negi, and Yue]]. Granted, she ''is'' a [[Covert Pervert]], but her fantasizing (which is only actually seen about 3 times in 250+ manga chapters) is greatly exaggerated by the fandom.
** It's mostly remembered because it IS genuinely [[Mahou Sensei Negima/Funny|hilarious]] to see the most shy of the girls having such filthy fantasies. That and it ''is'' canon that she's got ''Evangeline'' beaten in the "Ero" charts.
** It's mostly remembered because it IS genuinely [[Mahou Sensei Negima/Funny|hilarious]] to see the most shy of the girls having such filthy fantasies. That and it ''is'' canon that she's got ''Evangeline'' beaten in the "Ero" charts.
** This got a callback in a recent chapter, when Haruna called her and Yue "the polygamous duo".
** This got a callback in a recent chapter, when Haruna called her and Yue "the polygamous duo".
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** For the same reasons, nobody will probably forget [[Robot Girl]] Chachamaru's "[[I Didn't Mean to Turn You On|winding]]" incident. It was even popular enough to get done [[Call Back|a second]] [[Running Gag|and third time]]. Pity how the OVA failed to translate this scene into audio-visual form.
** For the same reasons, nobody will probably forget [[Robot Girl]] Chachamaru's "[[I Didn't Mean to Turn You On|winding]]" incident. It was even popular enough to get done [[Call Back|a second]] [[Running Gag|and third time]]. Pity how the OVA failed to translate this scene into audio-visual form.
* ''[[Death Note]]''s Light Yagami spends the vast majority of his time portraying a near-flawless modest front over a cold, calculating and, above all, ''rational'' interior. However, he's usually remembered for his two [[Evil Laugh|Evil Laughs]], his [[Evil Gloating|near-sexual pleasure in victory]], and [[Mundane Made Awesome|his abiding love of potato chips]].
* ''[[Death Note]]''s Light Yagami spends the vast majority of his time portraying a near-flawless modest front over a cold, calculating and, above all, ''rational'' interior. However, he's usually remembered for his two [[Evil Laugh|Evil Laughs]], his [[Evil Gloating|near-sexual pleasure in victory]], and [[Mundane Made Awesome|his abiding love of potato chips]].
** Except that Light throws several tantrums in the course of the series, one as early as in the second episode. The last episode is the only time he does it with witnesses other than Ryuk present. But calling him calm or rational at any time is a stretch - that's yet another part of the mask he's constructed around himself.
** Except that Light throws several tantrums in the course of the series, one as early as in the second episode. The last episode is the only time he does it with witnesses other than Ryuk present. But calling him calm or rational at any time is a stretch - that's yet another part of the mask he's constructed around himself.
* For ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'', people who [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|complain about shows they don't watch]] have always made fun of Yu-Gi-Oh! characters for having strange hair. In the original show however, only Yugi had ''exceptionally'' strange hair. The only other people who came close (like Honda and Otogi) were really no different than any traditional cartoon caricatures. Of course the later series (not made by the original creator) ran with this, and led to another lead character with strange hair in 5Ds.
* For ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'', people who [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch|complain about shows they don't watch]] have always made fun of Yu-Gi-Oh! characters for having strange hair. In the original show however, only Yugi had ''exceptionally'' strange hair. The only other people who came close (like Honda and Otogi) were really no different than any traditional cartoon caricatures. Of course the later series (not made by the original creator) ran with this, and led to another lead character with strange hair in 5Ds.
** Anzu/Tea is often bashed for her speeches about friendship. However, the friendship between the four protagonists is the central theme of the show aside from Duel Monsters, which was a [[Plot Tumor]]; friendship was ''the'' main original point. There's also the fact that A--this is mostly a dub-only trait of hers, she's much less preachy in the Japanese version, and B--as it is the central theme of the show, the other four give speeches about [[The Power of Friendship]] just as much as she does, especially Yami Yugi.
** Anzu/Tea is often bashed for her speeches about friendship. However, the friendship between the four protagonists is the central theme of the show aside from Duel Monsters, which was a [[Plot Tumor]]; friendship was ''the'' main original point. There's also the fact that A--this is mostly a dub-only trait of hers, she's much less preachy in the Japanese version, and B--as it is the central theme of the show, the other four give speeches about [[The Power of Friendship]] just as much as she does, especially Yami Yugi.
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** [[Dragonball Z]] often poked fun at for it's [[Inaction Sequence|dragged out fight scenes]]... However, the only time it was ''really'' as bad as the jokes made them out to be were during the Namek Saga. Other times were not as bad.
** [[Dragonball Z]] often poked fun at for it's [[Inaction Sequence|dragged out fight scenes]]... However, the only time it was ''really'' as bad as the jokes made them out to be were during the Namek Saga. Other times were not as bad.
* There's one particular episode of ''[[Sailor Moon]] Stars'' where Setsuna/Sailor Pluto scares the living daylights out of the girls on about three occasions by popping up out of the blue. The girls are eating ice cream when she appears. She pops up holding a popsicle. This episode made her famous in fandom for the [[Stealth Hi Bye]].
* There's one particular episode of ''[[Sailor Moon]] Stars'' where Setsuna/Sailor Pluto scares the living daylights out of the girls on about three occasions by popping up out of the blue. The girls are eating ice cream when she appears. She pops up holding a popsicle. This episode made her famous in fandom for the [[Stealth Hi Bye]].
** Mamoru, in the anime, broke up with Usagi ''once'', during a storyline in which he was having cryptic nightmares that Usagi would die if he didn't stay away from her. They got back together when Usagi had a nightmare too and realized what was ''really'' going on. They basically vow to [[Screw Destiny]] and fight off whatever threat comes together. During the entire storyline, Mamoru was shown privately grieving their separation and several times deigning on the [[Screw Destiny]] route himself but stopping out of fear for what would happen to Usagi. The eventual source was proven to be a future form of himself trying to test the strength of their relationship because of the powerful threats they would face from the Black Moon. The way some people (''especially'' Seiya/Usagi fans) tell it, Mamoru despised Usagi throughout the entire series, constantly abused her or ignored her, and only got back together with her out of duty to the relationship they had in their past lives.
** Mamoru, in the anime, broke up with Usagi ''once'', during a storyline in which he was having cryptic nightmares that Usagi would die if he didn't stay away from her. They got back together when Usagi had a nightmare too and realized what was ''really'' going on. They basically vow to [[Screw Destiny]] and fight off whatever threat comes together. During the entire storyline, Mamoru was shown privately grieving their separation and several times deigning on the [[Screw Destiny]] route himself but stopping out of fear for what would happen to Usagi. The eventual source was proven to be a future form of himself trying to test the strength of their relationship because of the powerful threats they would face from the Black Moon. The way some people (''especially'' Seiya/Usagi fans) tell it, Mamoru despised Usagi throughout the entire series, constantly abused her or ignored her, and only got back together with her out of duty to the relationship they had in their past lives.
** To be fair, that's actually pretty close to how he acted for the majority of the first series. They went from despising each other, to having one episode where they become sort of friendly, then he gets brainwashed and once he's fixed they're a couple who love each other. Definitely out of character for the later season incarnation but there is at leats some basis for the character.
** To be fair, that's actually pretty close to how he acted for the majority of the first series. They went from despising each other, to having one episode where they become sort of friendly, then he gets brainwashed and once he's fixed they're a couple who love each other. Definitely out of character for the later season incarnation but there is at leats some basis for the character.
* While most ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Higurashi]]'' characters can, and have, gotten past their violent reputations and their respective arcs, Shion Sonozaki is still most well-known for her acts in Meakashi. It seems like most fans don't know, [[Flanderization|or care]], about the fact that her personality isn't like that.
* While most ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni|Higurashi]]'' characters can, and have, gotten past their violent reputations and their respective arcs, Shion Sonozaki is still most well-known for her acts in Meakashi. It seems like most fans don't know, [[Flanderization|or care]], about the fact that her personality isn't like that.
** Then again, Shion '''is''' quite [[Knight Templar Big Brother|overprotective]] towards her loved ones and at least once it was to [[Kick the Dog]] levels (like {{spoiler|almost killing Satoko out of jealousy ''when not under the hate plague effects''}}, and her actions in Meakashi '''were''' both horrifying and graphic, even for Higurashi, which [[Gorn|is saying something]].
** Then again, Shion '''is''' quite [[Knight Templar Big Brother|overprotective]] towards her loved ones and at least once it was to [[Kick the Dog]] levels (like {{spoiler|almost killing Satoko out of jealousy ''when not under the hate plague effects''}}, and her actions in Meakashi '''were''' both horrifying and graphic, even for Higurashi, which [[Gorn|is saying something]].
** There's also the case of Rena Ryuugu, who is perceived by many to be the series' trademark [[Ax Crazy]], [[Cute Psycho]], [[Girl with Psycho Weapon|cleaver-wielding]] girl. The truth is, she is only truly like this in the sixth arc; her psychotic behavior in the first arc was {{spoiler|merely a hallucination out of extreme paranoia by its main protagonist, under effects of the [[Hate Plague]]}}.
** There's also the case of Rena Ryuugu, who is perceived by many to be the series' trademark [[Ax Crazy]], [[Cute Psycho]], [[Girl with Psycho Weapon|cleaver-wielding]] girl. The truth is, she is only truly like this in the sixth arc; her psychotic behavior in the first arc was {{spoiler|merely a hallucination out of extreme paranoia by its main protagonist, under effects of the [[Hate Plague]]}}.
*** Rena's still better than Shion though. She's considered a friendly character just as much as a [[Cute Psycho]], if not more.
*** Rena's still better than Shion though. She's considered a friendly character just as much as a [[Cute Psycho]], if not more.
* ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' has a case that's odd in that it's based on an event that hasn't even been ''shown'' in canon. As the series' characters are [[Anthropomorphic Personification|Anthropomorphic Personifications]] of nations, their characterization in fanworks are often based to some extent on real-life historical events that their representative nations, which is pretty much inevitable as it's impossible for canon alone to delve completely into the nations' histories. However, the [[Fanon]] that arises from this can get rather... questionable at times, like in the case of America and Japan. One of the most well-known interactions between these two nations in real life is America's bombings of the cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan that ended [[World War II]], and many fans take this as proof that the characters must have an angsty, difficult, and even abusive relationship (especially if they view it as a tragic romance)... even though they're shown to have become ''best friends'' in numerous post-WWII strips with not a trace of bitterness to be seen. Not to mention that in real life, America actually treated Japan pretty decently after the atomic bombings, going through its occupation of Japan with a minimum of bitterness and hostility, a portrayal that would likely fit their APH characters better.
* ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' has a case that's odd in that it's based on an event that hasn't even been ''shown'' in canon. As the series' characters are [[Anthropomorphic Personification|Anthropomorphic Personifications]] of nations, their characterization in fanworks are often based to some extent on real-life historical events that their representative nations, which is pretty much inevitable as it's impossible for canon alone to delve completely into the nations' histories. However, the [[Fanon]] that arises from this can get rather... questionable at times, like in the case of America and Japan. One of the most well-known interactions between these two nations in real life is America's bombings of the cities Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan that ended [[World War II]], and many fans take this as proof that the characters must have an angsty, difficult, and even abusive relationship (especially if they view it as a tragic romance)... even though they're shown to have become ''best friends'' in numerous post-WWII strips with not a trace of bitterness to be seen. Not to mention that in real life, America actually treated Japan pretty decently after the atomic bombings, going through its occupation of Japan with a minimum of bitterness and hostility, a portrayal that would likely fit their APH characters better.
** Japan himself suffers from this. Yes, he stabbed his doting brother China [[In the Back]] for no clear reason. Yes, it was a shocking [[Kick the Dog]] moment, especially in a series that normally depicts historical events humorously, so it's understandable that it really stands out to many fans and makes them wonder about Japan's true character. And yes, many of [[Imperial Japan]]'s war crimes in real life were no laughing matter. But that doesn't mean that the character Japan ''has'' to be a sociopathic [[Complete Monster]] who ruthlessly manipulated, abused, and raped his East Asian siblings in cold blood during his imperial years, especially considering that he's shown to be on relatively civil terms with them in the post-WWII strips. And [[Must Make Amends|some bad acts can be undone]], you know...
** Japan himself suffers from this. Yes, he stabbed his doting brother China [[In the Back]] for no clear reason. Yes, it was a shocking [[Kick the Dog]] moment, especially in a series that normally depicts historical events humorously, so it's understandable that it really stands out to many fans and makes them wonder about Japan's true character. And yes, many of [[Imperial Japan]]'s war crimes in real life were no laughing matter. But that doesn't mean that the character Japan ''has'' to be a sociopathic [[Complete Monster]] who ruthlessly manipulated, abused, and raped his East Asian siblings in cold blood during his imperial years, especially considering that he's shown to be on relatively civil terms with them in the post-WWII strips. And [[Must Make Amends|some bad acts can be undone]], you know...
** [[Nice Guy|Spain]] also gets this too. [[Fanon]] likes to think he's a [[Yandere]] or a [[Cute and Psycho]] because of Spanish history and [[Hidekaz Himaruya]] said in his notes that he was originally going to be a two faced character like [[Psychopathic Manchild|Russia]] that was only kind toward [[Tsundere|Romano]]. Himaruya mostly discarded that idea many years ago, but decided to play upon it on the 2011 Fool's Bath where Spain ''seems'' to snap at France when he revealed who the culprit was {{spoiler|(which was indeed Spain, who sent the threatening letters to everyone and if they didn't come to this location at a certain time, he would reveal their most embarrassing picture of them).}} However when Spain appears to take his anger out on America and England, he switches back to his cheery self and explains that he just wanted to hang out with everyone and France twisted the words of what he really wanted. It was obvious that his [[Can't Hold His Liquor|anger was because he was drunk]], but the fans now declare that he is officially [[Yandere]] / [[Cute and Psycho]] despite it being [[Played for Laughs]].
** [[Nice Guy|Spain]] also gets this too. [[Fanon]] likes to think he's a [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] or a [[Cute and Psycho]] because of Spanish history and [[Hidekaz Himaruya]] said in his notes that he was originally going to be a two faced character like [[Psychopathic Manchild|Russia]] that was only kind toward [[Tsundere|Romano]]. Himaruya mostly discarded that idea many years ago, but decided to play upon it on the 2011 Fool's Bath where Spain ''seems'' to snap at France when he revealed who the culprit was {{spoiler|(which was indeed Spain, who sent the threatening letters to everyone and if they didn't come to this location at a certain time, he would reveal their most embarrassing picture of them).}} However when Spain appears to take his anger out on America and England, he switches back to his cheery self and explains that he just wanted to hang out with everyone and France twisted the words of what he really wanted. It was obvious that his [[Can't Hold His Liquor|anger was because he was drunk]], but the fans now declare that he is officially [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] / [[Cute and Psycho]] despite it being [[Played for Laughs]].
** A less extreme example would be Poland- he crossdressed all of three times in the entre webcomic, none of which were recent and one of which was deleted from the site due to [[Old Shame]], but fandom seems to love putting him in skirts near-constantly.
** A less extreme example would be Poland- he crossdressed all of three times in the entre webcomic, none of which were recent and one of which was deleted from the site due to [[Old Shame]], but fandom seems to love putting him in skirts near-constantly.
* In ''[[Ghost Hunt]]'', Naru is shown drinking tea maybe 3 or 4 times in 25 episodes, and other characters are often given tea as well when they come into the SPR office. The fandom, however, always portrays Naru as a tea addict. Find one fanfiction featuring Naru that does not mention tea multiple times, I dare you.
* In ''[[Ghost Hunt]]'', Naru is shown drinking tea maybe 3 or 4 times in 25 episodes, and other characters are often given tea as well when they come into the SPR office. The fandom, however, always portrays Naru as a tea addict. Find one fanfiction featuring Naru that does not mention tea multiple times, I dare you.
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** That happened in the original comic in the [[The Seventies]], and Count Brocken was still an scary villain... [[What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic|when he regained his head]]
** That happened in the original comic in the [[The Seventies]], and Count Brocken was still an scary villain... [[What Do You Mean Its Not Symbolic|when he regained his head]]
** [[Memetic Mutation|BrockenBall! Everyone wins, except the ball! Which is Brocken!]]
** [[Memetic Mutation|BrockenBall! Everyone wins, except the ball! Which is Brocken!]]
* Due to the fact that [[Shugo Chara|Ikuto]] is very flirtatious with Amu, some fans think he is a playboy. He isn't, because Utau once even said that Amu was the only girl he ever loved.
* Due to the fact that [[Shugo Chara|Ikuto]] is very flirtatious with Amu, some fans think he is a playboy. He isn't, because Utau once even said that Amu was the only girl he ever loved.
* When [[Mohiro Kitoh]] said he would make a manga about [[Mood Whiplash|a girl riding a mountain bike]], people blew the premise out of proportions, making jokes of how the bike will destroy the earth and such. Why? Because of his [[Narutaru|previous]] [[Bokurano|works]].
* When [[Mohiro Kitoh]] said he would make a manga about [[Mood Whiplash|a girl riding a mountain bike]], people blew the premise out of proportions, making jokes of how the bike will destroy the earth and such. Why? Because of his [[Narutaru|previous]] [[Bokurano|works]].
* In the [[Durarara]] novel, a new character is introduced named Aoba Kuronuma. There is no official artwork of him, however he has shown up a lot in fan art? How? Because he's most remembered by being stabbed with a pen by none other than {{spoiler|Mikado}} and is always drawn with a bandage on his hand. Even though he has yet to appear in the anime, jokes about what happened continues via drawings and Fanfiction.
* In the [[Durarara]] novel, a new character is introduced named Aoba Kuronuma. There is no official artwork of him, however he has shown up a lot in fan art? How? Because he's most remembered by being stabbed with a pen by none other than {{spoiler|Mikado}} and is always drawn with a bandage on his hand. Even though he has yet to appear in the anime, jokes about what happened continues via drawings and Fanfiction.
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* Lenalee from ''[[D.Gray-man|D Gray Man]]'' suffers from this. No matter how many Akuma she defeats, it seems she'll always be best known for that one time when {{spoiler|she was [[Brought Down to Normal]] and became unable to fight for a while. Even after she got her powers back and [[Curb Stomp Battle|curb-stomped]] a Level 4 Akuma, fans didn't stop portraying her as a whiny [[Damsel in Distress]].}} What makes it even worse is that {{spoiler|Allen}} went through the exact same thing, but [[Double Standard|nobody bashes him for it]].
* Lenalee from ''[[D.Gray-man|D Gray Man]]'' suffers from this. No matter how many Akuma she defeats, it seems she'll always be best known for that one time when {{spoiler|she was [[Brought Down to Normal]] and became unable to fight for a while. Even after she got her powers back and [[Curb Stomp Battle|curb-stomped]] a Level 4 Akuma, fans didn't stop portraying her as a whiny [[Damsel in Distress]].}} What makes it even worse is that {{spoiler|Allen}} went through the exact same thing, but [[Double Standard|nobody bashes him for it]].
* In ''[[Sekaiichi Hatsukoi (Manga)|Sekaiichi Hatsukoi]]'', Hatori gets a LOT of flak for what he did to his love interest (and childhood friend) Chiaki. Basically, he was stressed out from having an unrequited love for twenty years, his childhood friend was dense and his rival was rubbing it in his face that he would get Chiaki first. So what does he do that's so horrendous that that's all what people remember him for? {{spoiler|He brutally rapes Chiaki despite him begging him to stop and [[Break the Cutie|being physically, mentally psychologically broken]] during that moment.}} And then he gets [[Karma Houdini]] when the two hook up later. Needless to say, mention the [[Internet Backdraft|pairing online and the results won't be pretty.]]
* In ''[[Sekaiichi Hatsukoi (Manga)|Sekaiichi Hatsukoi]]'', Hatori gets a LOT of flak for what he did to his love interest (and childhood friend) Chiaki. Basically, he was stressed out from having an unrequited love for twenty years, his childhood friend was dense and his rival was rubbing it in his face that he would get Chiaki first. So what does he do that's so horrendous that that's all what people remember him for? {{spoiler|He brutally rapes Chiaki despite him begging him to stop and [[Break the Cutie|being physically, mentally psychologically broken]] during that moment.}} And then he gets [[Karma Houdini]] when the two hook up later. Needless to say, mention the [[Internet Backdraft|pairing online and the results won't be pretty.]]
** What makes this most noticeable from other yaoi series is that Sekai Ichi Hatsukoi actively tries to avoid the [[Victim Falls For Rapist]] trope (making this series very realistic) and so far, the three other pairings have successfully avoided it. This is the only pairing that does not avoid it and to make it worse, this doesn't fall under the [[Victim Falls For Rapist]] trope, it falls under [[Rape as Drama]] and [[Stockholm Syndrome]]. Add to the fact that Chiaki doesn't handle the situation realistically {{spoiler|telling Hatori not to leave him instead of distancing himself like a normal person would and also not pitying Hatori during the rape scene}} also does not help Hatori ''or'' Chiaki's case.
** What makes this most noticeable from other yaoi series is that Sekai Ichi Hatsukoi actively tries to avoid the [[Victim Falls For Rapist]] trope (making this series very realistic) and so far, the three other pairings have successfully avoided it. This is the only pairing that does not avoid it and to make it worse, this doesn't fall under the [[Victim Falls For Rapist]] trope, it falls under [[Rape as Drama]] and [[Stockholm Syndrome]]. Add to the fact that Chiaki doesn't handle the situation realistically {{spoiler|telling Hatori not to leave him instead of distancing himself like a normal person would and also not pitying Hatori during the rape scene}} also does not help Hatori ''or'' Chiaki's case.
** Chiaki himself has a [[Never Live It Down]] moment from the above but also because of his [[Oblivious to Love|inability to understand love.]] Apparently, there is a limit to how stupid you can be when it comes to romance. It's been established that Chiaki while not the sharpest tool in the shed is rather observant of certain things (like knowing Hatori's [[Berserk Button]] (since Hatori is a hard person to read) but [[Too Dumb to Live|pushing it anyway]] as well as knowing what his female audience wants and doesn't want when it comes to his manga along with wanting what's best for his friends and the people around him, he will always be labeled as the stupidest, most insensitive character in the series thanks to his oblivious nature and this attitude is what leads to {{spoiler|his best friend Yanase's [[Heroic BSOD|breakdown]]}}.
** Chiaki himself has a [[Never Live It Down]] moment from the above but also because of his [[Oblivious to Love|inability to understand love.]] Apparently, there is a limit to how stupid you can be when it comes to romance. It's been established that Chiaki while not the sharpest tool in the shed is rather observant of certain things (like knowing Hatori's [[Berserk Button]] (since Hatori is a hard person to read) but [[Too Dumb to Live|pushing it anyway]] as well as knowing what his female audience wants and doesn't want when it comes to his manga along with wanting what's best for his friends and the people around him, he will always be labeled as the stupidest, most insensitive character in the series thanks to his oblivious nature and this attitude is what leads to {{spoiler|his best friend Yanase's [[Heroic BSOD|breakdown]]}}.
*** Episode 10, 15 and 16 doesn't help his cause. Episode 10, Yanase confesses to Chiaki when he's drunk. Chiaki responds by leaving him at the hot springs to run to Hatori. Episode 15, he acts like it's Yanase's fault that the previous incident happened and hits multiple [[Berserk Button|Berserk Buttons]] in the episode. He denies that Yanase confessed to him in his head and then tells Yanase that he should hook up with one of the female assistants, effectively setting him off. End of the episode has Chiaki get Yanase's hopes up by implying that he'll think about having a relationship with him. Episode 16...Chiaki flips out at Hatori because he saw him with his ex girlfriend and goes to Yanase's place knowing full well that his best friend is in love with him and setting his expectations high. {{spoiler|Then the rejection scene comes that leads to Yanase breaking down crying asking why he chose Hatori over him, and Chiaki can't come up with a response. Finally, Chiaki tells him that he'll see him at work tomorrow implying that he just ignored the confession a third time.}}
*** Episode 10, 15 and 16 doesn't help his cause. Episode 10, Yanase confesses to Chiaki when he's drunk. Chiaki responds by leaving him at the hot springs to run to Hatori. Episode 15, he acts like it's Yanase's fault that the previous incident happened and hits multiple [[Berserk Button|Berserk Buttons]] in the episode. He denies that Yanase confessed to him in his head and then tells Yanase that he should hook up with one of the female assistants, effectively setting him off. End of the episode has Chiaki get Yanase's hopes up by implying that he'll think about having a relationship with him. Episode 16...Chiaki flips out at Hatori because he saw him with his ex girlfriend and goes to Yanase's place knowing full well that his best friend is in love with him and setting his expectations high. {{spoiler|Then the rejection scene comes that leads to Yanase breaking down crying asking why he chose Hatori over him, and Chiaki can't come up with a response. Finally, Chiaki tells him that he'll see him at work tomorrow implying that he just ignored the confession a third time.}}
* Did you know that Mami from ''[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'' actually does ''more'' things in the series than using [[Finishing Move|the Tiro Finale]] and {{spoiler|getting her head eaten?}} Because from the way the fans talk about her, you'd think that was ''all she ever did''. Even the official merchandise is getting in on it - a lot of it includes {{spoiler|the Witch who killed her}} in some way.
* Did you know that Mami from ''[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'' actually does ''more'' things in the series than using [[Finishing Move|the Tiro Finale]] and {{spoiler|getting her head eaten?}} Because from the way the fans talk about her, you'd think that was ''all she ever did''. Even the official merchandise is getting in on it - a lot of it includes {{spoiler|the Witch who killed her}} in some way.
** Not true. She also {{spoiler|tries to kill all her friends in one timeline}}. Most people who saw that tend to remember it [[Break the Cutie|for one reason]] or [[Diabolus Ex Machina|another]].
** Not true. She also {{spoiler|tries to kill all her friends in one timeline}}. Most people who saw that tend to remember it [[Break the Cutie|for one reason]] or [[Diabolus Ex Machina|another]].