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In more straightforward [[Science Fiction]] and [[Fantasy]] stories, they are usually villains [[Omnicidal Maniac|who are always plotting destruction]], and can get really [[Large Ham|over the top]] in their behavior. This character is the polar opposite of [[The Anti Nihilist]], who also thinks life has no inherent meaning yet reaches inverse conclusions about morality and the value of life.
In more straightforward [[Science Fiction]] and [[Fantasy]] stories, they are usually villains [[Omnicidal Maniac|who are always plotting destruction]], and can get really [[Large Ham|over the top]] in their behavior. This character is the polar opposite of [[The Anti Nihilist]], who also thinks life has no inherent meaning yet reaches inverse conclusions about morality and the value of life.


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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
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* ''[[Gundam]]''
* ''[[Gundam]]''
** Rau Le Creuset, the chief antagonist in ''[[Gundam Seed]]''. It sends him into [[Omnicidal Maniac]] territory.
** Rau Le Creuset, the chief antagonist in ''[[Gundam Seed]]''. It sends him into [[Omnicidal Maniac]] territory.
** In ''[[Gundam Seed Destiny]]'', [[Big Bad|Chairman]] [[Dark Messiah|Durandal]] and [[The Dragon|Rey]] [[Manipulative Bastard|Za Burrell]] are interesting variants of this. They're both convinced the world is cold, terrible place, but are terrified of ending up like Rau. Instead, they become a pair of [[Well Intentioned Extremist|Well Intentioned Extremists]], out to inject meaning into the world [[Utopia Justifies the Means|no matter what the cost]].
** In ''[[Gundam Seed Destiny]]'', [[Big Bad|Chairman]] [[Dark Messiah|Durandal]] and [[The Dragon|Rey]] [[Manipulative Bastard|Za Burrell]] are interesting variants of this. They're both convinced the world is cold, terrible place, but are terrified of ending up like Rau. Instead, they become a pair of [[Well-Intentioned Extremist|Well Intentioned Extremists]], out to inject meaning into the world [[Utopia Justifies the Means|no matter what the cost]].
* Neji Hyuuga from ''[[Naruto]]'' is a good example: he constantly talks about how pointless everyone is any how [[You Can't Fight Fate|anyone who tries to fight his own fate is doomed to fail]]. Even more notable, he says this while ''[[Screw Destiny|trying to fight his own fate]]'', as Naruto points out. This trait disappeared following his [[Heel Face Turn]]. Apparently, Naruto [[Defeat Means Friendship|beat it out of him]].
* Neji Hyuuga from ''[[Naruto]]'' is a good example: he constantly talks about how pointless everyone is any how [[You Can't Fight Fate|anyone who tries to fight his own fate is doomed to fail]]. Even more notable, he says this while ''[[Screw Destiny|trying to fight his own fate]]'', as Naruto points out. This trait disappeared following his [[Heel Face Turn]]. Apparently, Naruto [[Defeat Means Friendship|beat it out of him]].
** Pain, leader of Akatsuki also possessed traits of [[Nietzsche Wannabe]], believing that the only way to enforce peace on the world is to make everyone suffer horribly as he did.
** Pain, leader of Akatsuki also possessed traits of [[Nietzsche Wannabe]], believing that the only way to enforce peace on the world is to make everyone suffer horribly as he did.
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== [[Fanfic]] ==
== [[Fanfic]] ==
* Not an actual example, but [[Eyrie Productions Unlimited]] saw the anime ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' as this trope, causing them to create ''[[Neon Exodus Evangelion]]'' as a backlash. [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|That is all]].
* Not an actual example, but [[Eyrie Productions Unlimited]] saw the anime ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' as this trope, causing them to create ''[[Neon Exodus Evangelion]]'' as a backlash. [[Rule of Cautious Editing Judgement|That is all]].
* ''[[Immortality Syndrome]]'' turns its sufferers into this in the [[Powerpuff Girls]] [[Dark Fic]] of the same name and its sequels. It's [[Who Wants to Live Forever]] cranked [[Up to Eleven]], caused by [[Came Back Wrong|coming back wrong]] and remembering how you died -- [[The Nothing After Death|and what came after]].
* ''[[Immortality Syndrome]]'' turns its sufferers into this in the [[Powerpuff Girls]] [[Dark Fic]] of the same name and its sequels. It's [[Who Wants to Live Forever?]] cranked [[Up to Eleven]], caused by [[Came Back Wrong|coming back wrong]] and remembering how you died -- [[The Nothing After Death|and what came after]].
* Played with in the ''[[War of the Worlds]]'' fanfic ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6598678/1/When_The_Stars_Turn_To_Ashes When The Stars Turn To Ashes]'' The character Byron Parris talks like this character type (and the high-minded protagonist dislikes him for it) but is also something of a [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]].
* Played with in the ''[[War of the Worlds]]'' fanfic ''[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6598678/1/When_The_Stars_Turn_To_Ashes When The Stars Turn To Ashes]'' The character Byron Parris talks like this character type (and the high-minded protagonist dislikes him for it) but is also something of a [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]].
* Tod Barringer in the '' The Hunger Games'' fanfic ''[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/AnUnsungSong An Unsung Song: The Tale of the 405th Hunger Games]''.
* Tod Barringer in the '' The Hunger Games'' fanfic ''[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/AnUnsungSong An Unsung Song: The Tale of the 405th Hunger Games]''.
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* Played for laughs in ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'' with the three evil German nihilists, and their amusing [[Catch Phrase]] "We believe in nothing!" often applied free of any particular context. They're very enthusiastic about their nihilism, and love to bring it up. {{spoiler|Their nihilism, however, doesn't stop them from whining about how "It's not fair!" when it turns out their attempt to extort money out of the heroes by pretending they've kidnapped a woman when she hasn't even been kidnapped has been rumbled.}} Walter retorts {{spoiler|Fair! WHO'S THE FUCKING NIHILIST HERE!}}
* Played for laughs in ''[[The Big Lebowski]]'' with the three evil German nihilists, and their amusing [[Catch Phrase]] "We believe in nothing!" often applied free of any particular context. They're very enthusiastic about their nihilism, and love to bring it up. {{spoiler|Their nihilism, however, doesn't stop them from whining about how "It's not fair!" when it turns out their attempt to extort money out of the heroes by pretending they've kidnapped a woman when she hasn't even been kidnapped has been rumbled.}} Walter retorts {{spoiler|Fair! WHO'S THE FUCKING NIHILIST HERE!}}
{{quote| Say what you will about the tenets of [[Nazi Germany|National Socialism]], but at least it's an ''ethos''.}}
{{quote| Say what you will about the tenets of [[Nazi Germany|National Socialism]], but at least it's an ''ethos''.}}
* Zé do Caixão, or "Coffin Joe" as he is called in the English subtitles, [[Anti Hero]] ''(HERO?)'' of a series of Brazilian horror movies.
* Zé do Caixão, or "Coffin Joe" as he is called in the English subtitles, [[Anti-Hero]] ''(HERO?)'' of a series of Brazilian horror movies.
* In his ''[[Hamlet]]'' speech at the end of ''[[Withnail and I]]'', it's debatable whether Withnail is talking about his sexuality or confirming an absolute nihilism.
* In his ''[[Hamlet]]'' speech at the end of ''[[Withnail and I]]'', it's debatable whether Withnail is talking about his sexuality or confirming an absolute nihilism.
* The [[Big Bad]] from ''[[Sunshine]]'' (2007) uses this as an excuse to kill the astronauts going to recharge the dying sun.
* The [[Big Bad]] from ''[[Sunshine]]'' (2007) uses this as an excuse to kill the astronauts going to recharge the dying sun.
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* The father and son encounter a starving one in ''[[The Road]]''. The son takes offense at the man's comments and gives him food, apparently as a way to prove the guy wrong.
* The father and son encounter a starving one in ''[[The Road]]''. The son takes offense at the man's comments and gives him food, apparently as a way to prove the guy wrong.
* Bazarov in ''Fathers and Sons'' is one.
* Bazarov in ''Fathers and Sons'' is one.
* The Inner Party from ''[[Nineteen Eighty Four]]'' is an entire social caste of Nietzsche Wannabes, and they happen to rule everything. Ingsoc is pretty much the Nietzsche Wannabe of political systems, being built to completely corrupt [[The Power of Love]] (Ingsoc's actual ideology is also known as the "Obliteration of the Self", which from the name can be easily seen as Nihilism incarnate). The Inner Party is completely amoral (nothing was illegal, since there are no longer any laws) but if they notice a single sign of individuality and love, called "thoughtcrime", they capture the thoughtcriminals but instead of killing them, they torture them and make them literally live their worst nightmares, but all of this is not to interrogate them, but to traumatize them and drop them into [[Despair Event Horizon]]. They leave the majority in immutable poverty, the superpowers in perpetual war and the entire world in [[Despair Event Horizon]]. You cannot reason with them or express love on them, ever. Why? Simply because their only motivation is "pure power".
* The Inner Party from ''[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]'' is an entire social caste of Nietzsche Wannabes, and they happen to rule everything. Ingsoc is pretty much the Nietzsche Wannabe of political systems, being built to completely corrupt [[The Power of Love]] (Ingsoc's actual ideology is also known as the "Obliteration of the Self", which from the name can be easily seen as Nihilism incarnate). The Inner Party is completely amoral (nothing was illegal, since there are no longer any laws) but if they notice a single sign of individuality and love, called "thoughtcrime", they capture the thoughtcriminals but instead of killing them, they torture them and make them literally live their worst nightmares, but all of this is not to interrogate them, but to traumatize them and drop them into [[Despair Event Horizon]]. They leave the majority in immutable poverty, the superpowers in perpetual war and the entire world in [[Despair Event Horizon]]. You cannot reason with them or express love on them, ever. Why? Simply because their only motivation is "pure power".
{{quote| '''O'Brien''': "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever."}}
{{quote| '''O'Brien''': "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever."}}


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* ''[[Heroes (TV)|Heroes]]'':
* ''[[Heroes (TV)|Heroes]]'':
** Arthur Petrelli believes himself to be a [[Ubermensch]] better than normal people and free from moral constraints. Just to hammer this point home, in series three he is seen reading Nietzsche shortly before telling his son Peter that he is "Better". Ironically subtler villains Linderman and Adam Monroe did a better job of representing this trope than Arthur ever did.
** Arthur Petrelli believes himself to be a [[Ubermensch]] better than normal people and free from moral constraints. Just to hammer this point home, in series three he is seen reading Nietzsche shortly before telling his son Peter that he is "Better". Ironically subtler villains Linderman and Adam Monroe did a better job of representing this trope than Arthur ever did.
** Adam in particular. He believes he is better, that humankind is worthless and life is pointless. However he also adds a dash of [[Dark Messiah]] as he seeks to change the pointlessness of life but forcing mankind to experience a terrible cataclysm and taking the survivors as his followers to build a better world. So he's a fusion of this trope and [[Knight Templar]]/[[Well Intentioned Extremist]]
** Adam in particular. He believes he is better, that humankind is worthless and life is pointless. However he also adds a dash of [[Dark Messiah]] as he seeks to change the pointlessness of life but forcing mankind to experience a terrible cataclysm and taking the survivors as his followers to build a better world. So he's a fusion of this trope and [[Knight Templar]]/[[Well-Intentioned Extremist]]
* Dr. Gregory House of ''[[House]]'' acts this way, and it is implied that the only reason he saves lives is because he likes solving mysteries, [[Dr. Jerk|not because he cares if the patient lives or dies]]. He suspects everybody of hiding something or lying to him.
* Dr. Gregory House of ''[[House]]'' acts this way, and it is implied that the only reason he saves lives is because he likes solving mysteries, [[Dr. Jerk|not because he cares if the patient lives or dies]]. He suspects everybody of hiding something or lying to him.
** What makes him a "wannabe" is that we're never truly sure what his motivations are. Usually he is in it for the challenge, but we're sometimes led to believe that he cares. House tries to subvert this by revealing how selfish he is, but it's pretty ambiguous.
** What makes him a "wannabe" is that we're never truly sure what his motivations are. Usually he is in it for the challenge, but we're sometimes led to believe that he cares. House tries to subvert this by revealing how selfish he is, but it's pretty ambiguous.
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* Stephen Sondheim's ''[[Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (Theatre)|Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street]]'' gives a [[Villain Song|rousing number]], "Epiphany," devoted to the worthlessness of the human race and how we all deserve to die. From which point on he cuts a bloody swath in accordance with those precepts. Accompanied by dramatic chorus about moralizers and hypocrites.
* Stephen Sondheim's ''[[Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (Theatre)|Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street]]'' gives a [[Villain Song|rousing number]], "Epiphany," devoted to the worthlessness of the human race and how we all deserve to die. From which point on he cuts a bloody swath in accordance with those precepts. Accompanied by dramatic chorus about moralizers and hypocrites.
* ''[[Othello]]'': The operatic version turned Iago, a villain who normally did it [[For the Evulz]], into one of these with his [[Villain Song]] "Credo in un Dio crudel."
* ''[[Othello]]'': The operatic version turned Iago, a villain who normally did it [[For the Evulz]], into one of these with his [[Villain Song]] "Credo in un Dio crudel."
* The operatic version of ''[[Woyzeck]]'' has [[Morally Ambiguous Doctorate|The Doctor]], who gives us this little gem.
* The operatic version of ''[[Woyzeck]]'' has [[Morally-Ambiguous Doctorate|The Doctor]], who gives us this little gem.
{{quote| "Haven't I told you that the urethral sphincter is subordinate to the will?"}}
{{quote| "Haven't I told you that the urethral sphincter is subordinate to the will?"}}


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** Also [[Healing Factor|tends to self-mutilate]] when he's bored.
** Also [[Healing Factor|tends to self-mutilate]] when he's bored.
** More to the point, he talks a lot about how wonderful death is.
** More to the point, he talks a lot about how wonderful death is.
** Only because he [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|totally cracked]] when he realized he would [[Who Wants to Live Forever|live on]] after Nigredo and Rubedo die. ''I'm practicing so that when they die, I won't cry'', anyone?
** Only because he [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|totally cracked]] when he realized he would [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|live on]] after Nigredo and Rubedo die. ''I'm practicing so that when they die, I won't cry'', anyone?
* Kefka from ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]'' [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|evolved]] from a [[Monster Clown]] with nihilistic tendencies into a fully fledged [[Nietzsche Wannabe]] upon {{spoiler|[[One Winged Angel|becoming the most powerful physical being on the planet]] halfway through the game}}.
* Kefka from ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]'' [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|evolved]] from a [[Monster Clown]] with nihilistic tendencies into a fully fledged [[Nietzsche Wannabe]] upon {{spoiler|[[One-Winged Angel|becoming the most powerful physical being on the planet]] halfway through the game}}.
{{quote| ''Why do people rebuild things they know are going to be destroyed? Why do people cling to life when they know they can't live forever? Think how meaningless each of your lives is!''}}
{{quote| ''Why do people rebuild things they know are going to be destroyed? Why do people cling to life when they know they can't live forever? Think how meaningless each of your lives is!''}}
* Seymour from ''[[Final Fantasy X]]'', unloved and alone since his mother's death, wants to harness Sin and annihilate all life on Spira to put an end to pointless suffering. Two years later Shuyin from ''Final Fantasy X-2'', eternally enraged and bitter at the world that let his one true love die, wants to harness Vegnagun and annihilate all life on Spira to end the existence of a world that he now sees as a pointless mockery. Clearly a lot of baddies on Spira didn't get enough hugs.
* Seymour from ''[[Final Fantasy X]]'', unloved and alone since his mother's death, wants to harness Sin and annihilate all life on Spira to put an end to pointless suffering. Two years later Shuyin from ''Final Fantasy X-2'', eternally enraged and bitter at the world that let his one true love die, wants to harness Vegnagun and annihilate all life on Spira to end the existence of a world that he now sees as a pointless mockery. Clearly a lot of baddies on Spira didn't get enough hugs.
** Although in the world of Spira, the difference between the living & the dead isn't readily apparent (more than one character in the games is actually an Unsent...), & the dead hold onto their memories & ability to interact with the world. So killing everyone to end all suffering makes a certain amount of sense, in that context, as it would be far from oblivion (at least until being dead make you crazy you turn into a Fiend).
** Although in the world of Spira, the difference between the living & the dead isn't readily apparent (more than one character in the games is actually an Unsent...), & the dead hold onto their memories & ability to interact with the world. So killing everyone to end all suffering makes a certain amount of sense, in that context, as it would be far from oblivion (at least until being dead make you crazy you turn into a Fiend).
* The backstory of Dark Matter, a (thankfully [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu|defeatable]]) [[Eldritch Abomination]] that serves as the perennial antagonist of the ''[[Kirby]]'' games, makes it clear that its actions are meant to turn the universe into a place where no one can be happy, so that everyone can share in its sorrow and loneliness. Guess it's kind of hard to make friends when you're a sentient force of pure [[Black Magic]].
* The backstory of Dark Matter, a (thankfully [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|defeatable]]) [[Eldritch Abomination]] that serves as the perennial antagonist of the ''[[Kirby]]'' games, makes it clear that its actions are meant to turn the universe into a place where no one can be happy, so that everyone can share in its sorrow and loneliness. Guess it's kind of hard to make friends when you're a sentient force of pure [[Black Magic]].
** Ironically, Kirby's best friend technically is one as well.
** Ironically, Kirby's best friend technically is one as well.
* Adam, leader of the Delphi cult in ''[[Trauma Center]]'', who spread the GUILT plague to give humans the "blessing" of death they "deserve." He may or may not have included himself.
* Adam, leader of the Delphi cult in ''[[Trauma Center]]'', who spread the GUILT plague to give humans the "blessing" of death they "deserve." He may or may not have included himself.
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* {{spoiler|Sephiran}}, from the ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' games Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, manipulated events in both games in order to prove to his patron goddess that the two races of Tellius were unable to live in peace, and thus should be destroyed. {{spoiler|Sephiran}} had {{spoiler|attempted to bring the two races to live in harmony for over several centuries, since a previous war between the two was the reason the goddess nearly destroyed the world in a flood}}. But a {{spoiler|nearly genocidal massacre of the Heron branch of the Laguz race and the resulting reprisals decades previous to the game's start}} convinced him that the situation was unsalvageable, and that he should wake up his goddess so she could pass judgment.
* {{spoiler|Sephiran}}, from the ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' games Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, manipulated events in both games in order to prove to his patron goddess that the two races of Tellius were unable to live in peace, and thus should be destroyed. {{spoiler|Sephiran}} had {{spoiler|attempted to bring the two races to live in harmony for over several centuries, since a previous war between the two was the reason the goddess nearly destroyed the world in a flood}}. But a {{spoiler|nearly genocidal massacre of the Heron branch of the Laguz race and the resulting reprisals decades previous to the game's start}} convinced him that the situation was unsalvageable, and that he should wake up his goddess so she could pass judgment.
** {{spoiler|Sephiran may be a partial subversion, as battle conversations with him imply that he regrets his actions somewhat, and that he ''wants'' to die (at the time, he's guarding the entrance to Ashera). If you satisfy certain conditions after beating the game once, Sephiran will actually renounce his old views and join your party for the final battle.}}
** {{spoiler|Sephiran may be a partial subversion, as battle conversations with him imply that he regrets his actions somewhat, and that he ''wants'' to die (at the time, he's guarding the entrance to Ashera). If you satisfy certain conditions after beating the game once, Sephiran will actually renounce his old views and join your party for the final battle.}}
** From the 6th game, there's the [[Big Bad]] Zephiel, who started out as a [[Well Done Son Guy]], trying to appease his father and is generally a nice boy. But his father is such a [[Jerkass]] that attempted his life so many times, Zephiel finally snapped, killed his father, starts to conclude that humans are evil, since they also bring out the emotions that made his father jealous to him. Thus, he began a campaign of conquering Elibe, and when he does, he planned to surrender the land and the human race to the Dragon race. Of course he failed in the end.
** From the 6th game, there's the [[Big Bad]] Zephiel, who started out as a [["Well Done, Son" Guy]], trying to appease his father and is generally a nice boy. But his father is such a [[Jerkass]] that attempted his life so many times, Zephiel finally snapped, killed his father, starts to conclude that humans are evil, since they also bring out the emotions that made his father jealous to him. Thus, he began a campaign of conquering Elibe, and when he does, he planned to surrender the land and the human race to the Dragon race. Of course he failed in the end.
* All of the human villains of ''[[Persona 3]]'' fit into this trope. {{spoiler|One -does- admit to being in it for the power he'll supposedly be given over the world if he brings about the Fall, but ultimately, because the Fall is [[Apocalypse How|the Fall]]...}}
* All of the human villains of ''[[Persona 3]]'' fit into this trope. {{spoiler|One -does- admit to being in it for the power he'll supposedly be given over the world if he brings about the Fall, but ultimately, because the Fall is [[Apocalypse How|the Fall]]...}}
** In ''[[Persona 4]]'', we have {{spoiler|Shadow Teddie}}, who, being a manifestation of repressed nihilistic feelings and hidden existential dread, fits quite well. His most powerful (well, it would be if it wasn't telegraphed) attack is called Nihil Hand.
** In ''[[Persona 4]]'', we have {{spoiler|Shadow Teddie}}, who, being a manifestation of repressed nihilistic feelings and hidden existential dread, fits quite well. His most powerful (well, it would be if it wasn't telegraphed) attack is called Nihil Hand.
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* Mephiles the Dark from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 qualifies, especially in the Showdown with Mephiles cutscene, where he, in a manner similar to Agent Smith in The Matrix Revolutions, questions why Shadow even attempts to oppose him and defend humanity when he will inevitably be persecuted.
* Mephiles the Dark from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 qualifies, especially in the Showdown with Mephiles cutscene, where he, in a manner similar to Agent Smith in The Matrix Revolutions, questions why Shadow even attempts to oppose him and defend humanity when he will inevitably be persecuted.
{{quote| '''Mephiles:''' Why bother fighting at all? Why defend those who will only persecute you later?}}
{{quote| '''Mephiles:''' Why bother fighting at all? Why defend those who will only persecute you later?}}
* ''[[Mega Man Zero (Video Game)|Mega Man Zero]]'': Dr. Weil, shortly after explaining his particularly horrific [[And I Must Scream|origin for his]] [[Who Wants to Live Forever|immortality]] to Zero, undergoes an immense rant about how justice and freedom are worthless ideals, and then as his opening quote even dismisses ideals themselves as being meaningless or a lie.
* ''[[Mega Man Zero (Video Game)|Mega Man Zero]]'': Dr. Weil, shortly after explaining his particularly horrific [[And I Must Scream|origin for his]] [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|immortality]] to Zero, undergoes an immense rant about how justice and freedom are worthless ideals, and then as his opening quote even dismisses ideals themselves as being meaningless or a lie.
{{quote| '''Dr. Weil:''' Justice!? Freedom!? Worthless ideals! [[Fantastic Racism|You Reploids are just machines]], but you started a war a long time ago in the name of freedom! And humans! Look what they did to me! Driving me away while spouting the word "justice!" Zero, would you insist on saving them!? Controlling the Reploids is nothing! The destruction of all mankind is only fleeting! Not quite alive... Not quite dead... Forever, by my side! I'll make you suffer a fate far greater than anything ever experienced before![...]Risou Dato... ZAREGETTO DA!!! (Ideals and stuff... IS UTTER NONSENSE!!!/Ideals?! WHAT A LIE!!!)}}
{{quote| '''Dr. Weil:''' Justice!? Freedom!? Worthless ideals! [[Fantastic Racism|You Reploids are just machines]], but you started a war a long time ago in the name of freedom! And humans! Look what they did to me! Driving me away while spouting the word "justice!" Zero, would you insist on saving them!? Controlling the Reploids is nothing! The destruction of all mankind is only fleeting! Not quite alive... Not quite dead... Forever, by my side! I'll make you suffer a fate far greater than anything ever experienced before![...]Risou Dato... ZAREGETTO DA!!! (Ideals and stuff... IS UTTER NONSENSE!!!/Ideals?! WHAT A LIE!!!)}}


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** It is worth noting that he isn't evil -- in more recent strips he negotiates with Deegan and tries to make a peace offering. He still tries to kill people. The fact that one is a psychopath and the other is a crime lord about to get away with it are points in his favor though... more of a [[Knight Templar]] now.
** It is worth noting that he isn't evil -- in more recent strips he negotiates with Deegan and tries to make a peace offering. He still tries to kill people. The fact that one is a psychopath and the other is a crime lord about to get away with it are points in his favor though... more of a [[Knight Templar]] now.
* Jack from ''[[Antihero for Hire]]'', as shown [http://www.antiheroforhire.com/d/20041108.html here].
* Jack from ''[[Antihero for Hire]]'', as shown [http://www.antiheroforhire.com/d/20041108.html here].
* In ''[[Eight Bit Theater (Webcomic)|Eight Bit Theater]]'', Lich von Vampire believes that all life exists to die. The cultists and Black Mage also seem to have a nihilistic philosophy. Possibly played for laughs, seeing as his point of argument was people building their homes where glaciers "would come screaming through" ''hundreds of thousands'' of years later.
* In ''[[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|Eight Bit Theater]]'', Lich von Vampire believes that all life exists to die. The cultists and Black Mage also seem to have a nihilistic philosophy. Possibly played for laughs, seeing as his point of argument was people building their homes where glaciers "would come screaming through" ''hundreds of thousands'' of years later.
* In ''[[The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob]],'' [http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20080722.html Galatea started out this way.] She's one of the apparently rare cases where [[Whoopi Epiphany Speech|the hero successfully convinced her she was wrong,]] and [[Talking the Monster To Death|she lightened up a little.]]
* In ''[[The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob]],'' [http://bobadventures.comicgenesis.com/d/20080722.html Galatea started out this way.] She's one of the apparently rare cases where [[Whoopi Epiphany Speech|the hero successfully convinced her she was wrong,]] and [[Talking the Monster To Death|she lightened up a little.]]
* ''The Bunny System'' [http://wordpress.thebunnysystem.com/2004/06/18/nietzsche/ approach]:
* ''The Bunny System'' [http://wordpress.thebunnysystem.com/2004/06/18/nietzsche/ approach]:
{{quote| So, ever read any Nietzsche? }}
{{quote| So, ever read any Nietzsche? }}
* In ''[[Suppression]]'' Samantha Wight delivers a speech to this effect when she first appears, but on that same note believes their efforts to be so pointless that she lets them pass afterward. {{spoiler|Which they would have done if Bael's [[Berserk Button]] hadn't been pressed a few too many times.}}
* In ''[[Suppression]]'' Samantha Wight delivers a speech to this effect when she first appears, but on that same note believes their efforts to be so pointless that she lets them pass afterward. {{spoiler|Which they would have done if Bael's [[Berserk Button]] hadn't been pressed a few too many times.}}
* ''[[Homestuck]]'': {{spoiler|Jadesprite}}, after her [[Unwanted Resurection]], starts taking this view. Jade ends up [[Get a Hold of Yourself Man|calling her out on this.]]
* ''[[Homestuck]]'': {{spoiler|Jadesprite}}, after her [[Unwanted Resurection]], starts taking this view. Jade ends up [[Get a Hold of Yourself, Man!|calling her out on this.]]