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'''Vimes:''' {{spoiler|No. How dare you? How dare you! At this time! In this place! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died doing it, and you can't give them anything.}} }} |
'''Vimes:''' {{spoiler|No. How dare you? How dare you! At this time! In this place! They did the job they didn't have to do, and they died doing it, and you can't give them anything.}} }} |
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** Be aware that, to this point Vettinari has always been able to "bribe" Sam at the end of each book for being able to do his job, making Vimes feel a bit as a dog being thrown a bone. But not this time. Not even Vettinari can bribe history. |
** Be aware that, to this point Vettinari has always been able to "bribe" Sam at the end of each book for being able to do his job, making Vimes feel a bit as a dog being thrown a bone. But not this time. Not even Vettinari can bribe history. |
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* I find young Sam's existence in that book in general to be very sad. Matching the idealistic young man with the hardened cynic of ''[[Discworld/Guards Guards|Guards Guards]]'' is just... depressing, especially imagining exactly what he went through the become like that. |
* I find young Sam's existence in that book in general to be very sad. Matching the idealistic young man with the hardened cynic of ''[[Discworld/Guards! Guards!|Guards Guards]]'' is just... depressing, especially imagining exactly what he went through the become like that. |
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** To say nothing of what we learned about [[Abusive Parents|Nobby]]. Yes, we'd already known Sconner yelled at him, but ''brrrr''... |
** To say nothing of what we learned about [[Abusive Parents|Nobby]]. Yes, we'd already known Sconner yelled at him, but ''brrrr''... |
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*** What got this troper was the realization that Sam has been caring for Nobby his whole life. Nobby's been under his wing since the beginning. Is it any wonder that when the Night Watch was just three it was Colon and Nobby, who refused to leave Sam Vimes and move on? I always said that spoke volumes about THEIR character as well as his. |
*** What got this troper was the realization that Sam has been caring for Nobby his whole life. Nobby's been under his wing since the beginning. Is it any wonder that when the Night Watch was just three it was Colon and Nobby, who refused to leave Sam Vimes and move on? I always said that spoke volumes about THEIR character as well as his. |
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** Oh gods yes, that entire sequence in the torture chambers. The descriptions are so vague and murky you can only begin to imagine the horrors down there. There's two scenes in particular that always get me—first, when Vimes finds his younger self in tears, because Sam found a woman who had had ''something'' horrible happen to her that we never find out, thankfully. Then, later on, when "Keel" stops Sam from killing one of the torturers and gives him a speech that pretty much defines who Vimes is and why he fights the monsters inside... well, it has to be read, but it always makes my vision go blurry... |
** Oh gods yes, that entire sequence in the torture chambers. The descriptions are so vague and murky you can only begin to imagine the horrors down there. There's two scenes in particular that always get me—first, when Vimes finds his younger self in tears, because Sam found a woman who had had ''something'' horrible happen to her that we never find out, thankfully. Then, later on, when "Keel" stops Sam from killing one of the torturers and gives him a speech that pretty much defines who Vimes is and why he fights the monsters inside... well, it has to be read, but it always makes my vision go blurry... |
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*** Not to mention, the sight of that woman is something that has apparently stayed with Vimes. He considers going into that room, but quickly decides that once in his life was once too many to see that. |
*** Not to mention, the sight of that woman is something that has apparently stayed with Vimes. He considers going into that room, but quickly decides that once in his life was once too many to see that. |
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* Vimes's "What if we actually won?" dilemma, his consequent [[Heroic BSOD]] and his recovery. Doubled as a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]. |
* Vimes's "What if we actually won?" dilemma, his consequent [[Heroic BSOD]] and his recovery. Doubled as a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]. |
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{{quote|"He wanted to go home. He wanted it so much that he trembled at the thought. But if the price of that was selling good men to the night, if the price was filling those graves, if the price was not fighting with every trick he knew....Then it was too high. "}} |
{{quote|"He wanted to go home. He wanted it so much that he trembled at the thought. But if the price of that was selling good men to the night, if the price was filling those graves, if the price was not fighting with every trick he knew....Then it was too high. "}} |
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