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Further evidence comes from the chat Sheriff Bell has with his uncle about how his grandfather died -- his grandfather was shot on his own front porch by a gang. This mirrors how Llewelyn Moss was found dead at the motel.
Further evidence comes from the chat Sheriff Bell has with his uncle about how his grandfather died -- his grandfather was shot on his own front porch by a gang. This mirrors how Llewelyn Moss was found dead at the motel.


Sheriff Bell has a distant take on events throughout the film. He never once meets the protagonist or the antagonist. He is constantly several steps behind the action. All these serve to reinforce the notion that he's only viewing events, not actively participating in them.
Sheriff Bell has a distant take on events throughout the film. He never once meets the protagonist or the antagonist. He is constantly several steps behind the action. All these serve to reinforce the notion that he's only viewing events, not actively participating in them.
* That... makes a good bit of sense. Chigurh certainly is nightmare fuel.
* That... makes a good bit of sense. Chigurh certainly is nightmare fuel.
** Also, the entire film (and Sheriff Bell) has a weird dream-like detatchment to it... This theory is good.
** Also, the entire film (and Sheriff Bell) has a weird dream-like detatchment to it... This theory is good.
*** I really like this theory. The fact that Chigurh is a clear metaphor for the growing violence that Bell fears makes this perfect.
*** I really like this theory. The fact that Chigurh is a clear metaphor for the growing violence that Bell fears makes this perfect.
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** And he did knock [[Four Is Death|four]] times on Llewelyn's door...
** And he did knock [[Four Is Death|four]] times on Llewelyn's door...


== Ed Tom Bell is [[Warhammer 40000|one of the Lost Primarchs]] ==
== Ed Tom Bell is [[Warhammer 40,000|one of the Lost Primarchs]] ==
After the Ruinous Powers snatched the young Primarchs from the Emperor on Terra and scattered them across the Galaxy, one of the two that were never found again was Ed Tom. He had been launched back in time to twentieth-century Texas. There, he was found and adopted by a normal human, a la [[Superman]]. But the trauma of the journey stunted his growth, so he only became a man of normal stature rather than reaching the imposing size of a normal Primarch, and he aged as a normal man, as well.
After the Ruinous Powers snatched the young Primarchs from the Emperor on Terra and scattered them across the Galaxy, one of the two that were never found again was Ed Tom. He had been launched back in time to twentieth-century Texas. There, he was found and adopted by a normal human, a la [[Superman]]. But the trauma of the journey stunted his growth, so he only became a man of normal stature rather than reaching the imposing size of a normal Primarch, and he aged as a normal man, as well.


His first dream (which he doesn't remember well) is of trying to find his father to get some money, which Ed Tom thinks he lost. The second is of his father leaving him alone in the cold to go ahead and start a fire.
His first dream (which he doesn't remember well) is of trying to find his father to get some money, which Ed Tom thinks he lost. The second is of his father leaving him alone in the cold to go ahead and start a fire.


The "father" that Ed Tom sees in both dreams, the man he knows as his father, found and adopted the Ed Tom when he found him as a baby, alone and abandoned, in the Texas desert. The dreams are not really about this man, however. They are about Ed Tom's true father, the God-Emperor of mankind.
The "father" that Ed Tom sees in both dreams, the man he knows as his father, found and adopted the Ed Tom when he found him as a baby, alone and abandoned, in the Texas desert. The dreams are not really about this man, however. They are about Ed Tom's true father, the God-Emperor of mankind.


The first dream is fragmentary and partially forgotten because Ed Tom was spirited away as an infant, and so had no knowledge of who or what he was, but his latent Psyker abilities have painted him an incomplete picture of this. He knows he has a greater destiny than to be a sheriff in rural Texas. The "money" that his father is going to give him is his rightful destiny as one of the sons of the Emperor and leader of a legion of Space Marines, defending Mankind and building the Imperium. He has the fundamental feeling that he has lost this, which he has, by virtue of being cast back in time and stripped of most of his power.
The first dream is fragmentary and partially forgotten because Ed Tom was spirited away as an infant, and so had no knowledge of who or what he was, but his latent Psyker abilities have painted him an incomplete picture of this. He knows he has a greater destiny than to be a sheriff in rural Texas. The "money" that his father is going to give him is his rightful destiny as one of the sons of the Emperor and leader of a legion of Space Marines, defending Mankind and building the Imperium. He has the fundamental feeling that he has lost this, which he has, by virtue of being cast back in time and stripped of most of his power.


In the second dream, his father passes him by on a cold mountain pass without pausing to speak, in order to go ahead and light a fire in "all that cold and all that dark." This is about the God Emperor's mission to take the reigns of leadership over Mankind, in order to light a fire of inspiration and hope in the cold, dark distance of the far future. But because of the upset in time, Ed Tom can only stay behind and watch as he goes on ahead. Because Ed Tom was meant to be -and should be- immortal and able to simply take [[The Slow Path]] to join the Emperor and his Brother Primarchs in the Great Crusade, he has a moment of hope that whenever he gets there, his father will be waiting. But the same Psyker abilities that fill him in on the past break that hope by giving him the premonition of Horus' betrayal, and his own knowledge reminds him that he is cruelly mortal. And so he wakes up.
In the second dream, his father passes him by on a cold mountain pass without pausing to speak, in order to go ahead and light a fire in "all that cold and all that dark." This is about the God Emperor's mission to take the reigns of leadership over Mankind, in order to light a fire of inspiration and hope in the cold, dark distance of the far future. But because of the upset in time, Ed Tom can only stay behind and watch as he goes on ahead. Because Ed Tom was meant to be -and should be- immortal and able to simply take [[The Slow Path]] to join the Emperor and his Brother Primarchs in the Great Crusade, he has a moment of hope that whenever he gets there, his father will be waiting. But the same Psyker abilities that fill him in on the past break that hope by giving him the premonition of Horus' betrayal, and his own knowledge reminds him that he is cruelly mortal. And so he wakes up.


It is the knowledge that despite being made and nurtured by the hand of the Emperor himself and bred for the sole purpose of being an immortal, invincible guardian of mankind, he has by a whim of fate been consigned to live and die a mortal man, and that in the face of the infinite, universe-shattering threats the universe holds, he cannot even contend with the evils created by humanity itself that drives him to despair and a defeated retirement.
It is the knowledge that despite being made and nurtured by the hand of the Emperor himself and bred for the sole purpose of being an immortal, invincible guardian of mankind, he has by a whim of fate been consigned to live and die a mortal man, and that in the face of the infinite, universe-shattering threats the universe holds, he cannot even contend with the evils created by humanity itself that drives him to despair and a defeated retirement.


** [[Warhammer 40000]] and No Country.....I swear TV tropes gets alittle more epic each day.
** [[Warhammer 40,000]] and No Country.....I swear TV tropes gets alittle more epic each day.


== The entire film was Llewelyn Moss' self-delusion (or dream) about what he would have done rather than what he actually DID. ==
== The entire film was Llewelyn Moss' self-delusion (or dream) about what he would have done rather than what he actually DID. ==
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== Llewelyn is illiterate. ==
== Llewelyn is illiterate. ==
Not really much of a WMG, but he does seem to have a hard time figuring out the very straightforward rate structure of the Del Rio motel, eventually just telling the clerk what he's looking for.
Not really much of a WMG, but he does seem to have a hard time figuring out the very straightforward rate structure of the Del Rio motel, eventually just telling the clerk what he's looking for.


== Chigurh is an avatar of Judge Holden from [[Blood Meridian]]. ==
== Chigurh is an avatar of Judge Holden from [[Blood Meridian]]. ==
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== Alternately Chigurh is the "Good" counterpart of Judge Holden from [[Blood Meridian]]. ==
== Alternately Chigurh is the "Good" counterpart of Judge Holden from [[Blood Meridian]]. ==
As bad as Chigurh is, he has some form of moral code which he sticks to at all costs and refrains from engaging in what he sees as pointless cruelty and bloodshed (emphasis on [[Blue and Orange Morality|what he sees as pointless]], wheras the Judge has no such code, and his actions are [[Up to Eleven|far, far worse.]]
As bad as Chigurh is, he has some form of moral code which he sticks to at all costs and refrains from engaging in what he sees as pointless cruelty and bloodshed (emphasis on [[Blue and Orange Morality|what he sees as pointless]], wheras the Judge has no such code, and his actions are [[Up to Eleven|far, far worse.]]


== Chigurh is a corrupt, undercover DEA Agent. ==
== Chigurh is a corrupt, undercover DEA Agent. ==
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