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As a corollary to that system, the healer class is screwed over. Not built for offense, the healer is not going to be able to "last hit" enemies well. As a result, he will be particularly stubborn to level up. In a multiplayer game, expect players to attempt to play a [[Deadly Doctor]], or to avoid the class altogether.
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== Anime and Manga ==
* This rule is in effect in the [[RPG Mechanics Verse]] of ''[[Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku o!]]'' to the detriment of Aqua, the [[White Mage|cleric]] type. The party takes on a quest involving undead just so that she can get some XP with her [[Turn Undead]] ability.
 
== [[First-Person Shooter]] ==
* Averted in ''[[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Team Fortress 2]]'', where even a relatively inexperienced medic can easily reach the top of the scoreboard just by focusing on healing and gaining assists from kills made by other characters being healed.
** One achievement requires players to score the highest without making any kills whatsoever. It's surprisingly common.
** While averted with kills, it's played staight with objectives. There aren't assists for completing objectives-- ifobjectives—if the person being healed kills the Intelligence Carrier or defends a point, the Medic will only recieve points for the assist, and not the objective.
* Mostly averted in ''[[Killing Floor (Video Game)|Killing Floor]]'', where healing regardless of perk will earn you [[Memetic Mutation|dosh]] and level up your Field Medic perk. Played slightly straighter with welding doors, which helps levels up Support Specialist but does not (as of current) help the player at the trader.
 
== [[Mecha Game]] ==
* Early ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' games used to give no experience for healing, but it became standard from [[Super Robot Wars F4]] onwards, mostly to give poor combat units but good medics a chance to level up as well.
 
== [[Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game|MMORPG]]s ==
== [[MMORPG|MMORPGs]] ==
* Played straight by Campaign battles in ''[[Final Fantasy XI]]''. For reference, players get awarded experience points and Allied Notes based on actions that contribute to the battle, such as attacking enemies, taking damage, and so on. While healing other players ''does'' qualify as a contribution, you gain experience slower for doing so, compared to the above, and the maximum XP bonus [[Cap|capscap]]s out much lower.
* Can occur in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online (Video Game)|The Lord of the Rings Online]]'', although not with Experience Points, since everyone in the group gets them. Certain skills can, if used enough times, get upgrades that you can choose to use. In general it's not that hard getting those upgrades, as most of them can be gained purely through solo play. However, healers have skills that resurrects other players from death (although not at full health) which means that they need to be in a group to use them (they can not be used on yourself). The upgrades to those skills means players will return from death with even more health than without the upgrades. The problem arises when a player has to die a number of times in order for the healer to gain that upgrade. This means that a good healer who is doing his job and doesn't let anyone die, will have a lot harder gaining that upgrade than a bad healer. Not that the good healer would need the upgrade if they never let people die, but still...
* Completely inverted in ''[[Warhammer Online]]'' - you will gain influence, renown and experience for killing enemies or assisting, but healers will get a portion of the rewards by healing those who dealt the damage, depending on how much is healed. Not only do you get rewards during the fighting, but by healing an ally who has ''recently'' gained rewards you also get bonuses, meaning that by throwing heals on random allies who are coming back from a battle will give points. Considering that an [[Area of Effect]] heal that restores 10% health to 5 allies in will give the healer roughly 10% of the spoils that each ally just received, ''per heal'', it's no surprise that healers are always the top classes when it comes to the charts of earned XP and renown at the end of a scenario.
 
== [[Real Time Strategy]] ==
* Until about a year after its launch, ''[[League of Legends]]'' did not reward healers for the achievements their patients got and the healing characters as a whole were seen as collective [[Gameplay Scrappy|gameplay scrappies]]. This was eventually rectified.
** Rectified to the point where [[Magic Music|Sona]] gets assists for simply ''being nearby'' due to her aura effects. Exactly how speeding up Karthus in your base while his [[Kill Sat|ultimate]] kills someone at the other end of the map qualifies as helping him is unclear. Also, if you are [[Time Stands Still|Zilean]], you can ultimate someone to enable him to [[Back Fromfrom the Dead|resurrect on death]], completely waste it because your patient doesn't actually die before it wears off, and still get an assist.
** Yet if you are [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Rammus]] you still don't get assists for taunting players unless you have [[Attack Reflector|Defensive Ball Curl]] up and they hit you. Pulling them into a tower will ''not'' give you any reward.
** Healers in the current metagame do not scale well with items or levels compared to any offensive champion. This means support players cannot farm whatsoever and are supposed to leave ''all'' of the gold to the team's [[Magikarp Power|carry]]. As a result, healers are utterly weak and insignificant during the second half of a match and their role can be summed up as "ward bitch" - get a few cheap items that generate gold, use said gold to buy tons of [[Defog of War|wards]] in order to reveal enemy movements, and stay the hell away from combat. Still, four well farmed champions on a map lit up like a christmas tree will always defeat five champions that shared their farm and are playing blind, so picking a support champion is a free win if the other team doesn't have one.
* Averted by ''[[World in Conflict]]'': in their pursuit of intense cooperation between players, the dev team awarded huge points to repair tanks for repairing things and to transport units for transporting troops. This quickly led to players driving their own units around the safe areas of the map, getting top scores without actually participating in combat, so an early patch removed transporting scores and reduced points for repairing your own units. Still, the repair+AA combo remained the top-scoring role in the game.
 
== [[Role -Playing Game]] ==
* In the text based ''Grendel's Revenge'', monsters who took the Shaman healing class as a primary had a doozy of a time, since new skill points were dumped into healing skills primarily and attack relegated. Poor build sequencing could lead to players being unable to kill their solo spawn. Eventually this was rectified when healing itself (and all support spells for the Shaman) gave XP, but for a long time you had very little room for error when playing a Shaman. Interestingly, by mid-game development they had the advantage of not having to worry about XP loss from dying like the combat classes did because they could potentially chain-die so often they couldn't kill their spawn; whereas Shamen and builders gaining XP through non-combat means meant this was a non-issue for them.
* A variation is in ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'''s [[Limit Break]] system. While the whole active party gets equal EXP per battle, getting to the next [[Limit Break]] level requires finishing off a certain amount of enemies. If you're using a character primarily as a healer, such as [[White Magician Girl|Aerith]] with her healing-based limit breaks, they won't advance as quickly, if at all.
 
== [[Third-Person Shooter]] ==
* ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'': Scientists get no steady source of XP for healing teammates.
 
== [[Turn -Based Strategy]] ==
* In ''[[Disgaea]]'', Healers are sub-par at everything except healing, not quite as speedy as frontline units, and squishy as all hell. Healing does count toward leveling up the spell you used, and the Staff skill if you use one, but provides no EXP. Healers tend to lag deeply behind because of that. It doesn't help that the games are very much about the [[Level Grinding|grinding]], either. Team-attack formations would help, but since that Healer is a bit slower, dragging one along to level them will slow down those already-tedious grinds.
** This was corrected in the second game and onwards. Healers gain EXP for healing in every game except the first one.
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