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* One of the earliest and most skillful uses of this trope ever appears in [[Arthur Machen]]'s ''[[The Great God Pan]]'', a prototype of the [[Cosmic Horror Story]]. A beautiful female [[Humanoid Abomination]] is somehow driving men to suicide, although as to what exactly she did to them is left to our sordid imaginations.
 
* One of the earliest and most skillfulskilful uses of this trope ever appears in [[Arthur Machen]]'s ''[[The Great God Pan]]'', a prototype of the [[Cosmic Horror Story]]. A beautiful female [[Humanoid Abomination]] is somehow driving men to suicide, although as to what exactly she did to them is left to our sordid imaginations.
{{quote|"Look at this neat little packet of manuscript; it is paginated, you see, and I have indulged in the civil coquetry of a ribbon of red tape. It has almost a legal air, hasn't it? Run your eye over it, Austin. It is an account of the entertainment Mrs. Beaumont provided for her choicer guests. The man who wrote this escaped with his life, but I do not think he will live many years. The doctors tell him he must have sustained some severe shock to the nerves."
Austin took the manuscript, but never read it. Opening the neat pages at haphazard his eye was caught by a word and a phrase that followed it; and, sick at heart, with white lips and a cold sweat pouring like water from his temples, he flung the paper down.}}
* [[Terry Pratchett]]'s ''[[Discworld]]'' books have quite a few:
** They occasionally refer to the unlucky Mr. Hong, who disappeared in mysterious circumstances after opening The Three Jolly Luck Takeaway Fish Bar on the site of an old fish-god temple on Dagon Street during a full moon (some references also state that said full moon was on the Winter Solstice; thankfully, that's where the chain of unfortunate coincidences end--there's no "after a delivery of a rare kind of squid" to make it worse). No one knows quite what happened, but it wasn't pleasant: one of the references mentions that he left behind "one kidney and [[Alien Geometries|half an earhole]]". Note that Dagon is the name of a Philistine fish god, and is also a malevolent deity in the [[Cosmic Horror|Lovecraft mythos...]]
** A more sinister example is given just enough detail that the reader can figure out the likely story: In ''[[Discworld/The Fifth Elephant|The Fifth Elephant]]'' Sybil Vimes nee Ramkin is reflecting on how she worries about Sam. There was one case, involving someone who "kept that little girl's shoes", where if Detritus hadn't been in the room the troll was pretty certain only Vimes would have walked out of it...
** And on a similar note, the last king of Ankh-Morpork, Lorenzo the Kind, was said to be "very fond of children", and had various "devices" in his dungeons. The fact that he was apparently so bad even the notoriously corrupt and apathetic people of Ankh-Morpork wanted him dead speaks volumes.
** In ''[[Discworld/Soul Music|Soul Music]]'', the wizards at Unseen University are eating and it is mentioned that the [[Cloudcuckoolander|Bursar]] has to have wooden utensils instead of metal ones after what they have since referred to as "the Unfortunate Incident at Dinner".
*** This same "Incident" may also be the one that led to the grounding of the senior faculty's High Table. Prior to this, it had hovered in mid-air during meals.
** ''[[Discworld/Night Watch (Discworld)|Night Watch]]'' has Vimes threatening a recalitrant prisoner with the "Ginger Beer Trick", aproximated by a finger popped from the mouth, a hissing noise and a blood curdling scream. (This one's not really a mystery. You shake a glass bottle of soda or mineral water and spray it straight up the victim's nostrils, leveraging the pressure with the thumb. It hurts like hell and leaves no marks on the victims body. It is commonly done by drugdealers and corrupt cops in Latin America. For an on-screen example, you can watch it happen on a recent ''[[Dexter]]'' episode.) And it doesn't have to be a nostril, either--''any'' mucus membrane will do, but the nostrils are simply convenient.
** And then there's [[Bungling Inventor|Bloody Stupid Johnson]] (a [[Shout-Out]] to real world Capability Brown), the, ah, "unique" designer/architect always mentioned in passing (along with his creations--which work, just not the way you expect them...or are supposed to)...and it is hinted in ''[[Discworld/Jingo|Jingo]]'' that an ancestor of Lady Sybil's had something to do with said passing, as well.
** In ''[[Discworld/Jingo|Jingo]]'', Vetinari and Fred Colon make a [[Noodle Incident]] up while going undercover in Al Khali.
{{quote|'''Vetinari''': It's going to be like that business in Djelibeybi again, Al.
'''Colon''': Oh, dear.
'''Vetinari''': I don't know if they ever got that man down off the flagpole.
'''Colon''': Oh, ''most'' of 'im, they did. }}
** A specific noodle incident occurs in ''[[Discworld/Hogfather|Hogfather]]'' with Johnson's custom bathroom 'Typhoon Superior Indoor Ablutorium with Automatic Soap Dish' which was found boarded up hidden behind a bookcase in the University. The Archchancellor used it until there was an unfortunate incident, after which he solemnly ordered it sealed up again, only more thoroughly and with extra warning notices. It's implied that it involved an interaction between the shower and the university's pipe organ, which was also designed by Johnson and was being played by the Librarian at the time. It's also stated that "they never did find the soap".
*** When the Librarian activated the organ's afterburner (why Johnson thought an organ needed an afterburner is probably a [[Noodle Incident]] in its own right) with the Organ Interlock lever in the shower activated, nitrous oxide flowed into the shower, creating nitric acid. Ridcully was showering in acid rain.
** And another is [[Discworld/Thief of Time|Jeremy Clockson]]'s reaction to a fellow clockmaker who ''deliberately'' kept his watch fast. All we're told is that people are very understanding when it comes to genius, at least once they've cleaned up the mess and taken the hammer away.
** Also, ''don't'' ask [[Discworld/Lords and Ladies|the Lancre Men's Morris Team]] (especially Jason Ogg) about the Stick and Bucket dance. Apparently, it's legal, which is surprising.
** [[All There in the Manual|Supplemental material]] about Unseen University describes their school holidays and traditions, including one at which it's customary for the wizards to inflict "a plunking" on any red-haired men they come across. Not only is it never stated what "a plunking" actually ''is'', but an unspecified incident is mentioned that led the University to exempt Captain Carrot Ironfounderson from this treatment. (This particular [[Noodle Incident]] apparently required a ladder to retrieve three student wizards from the eaves nearby.)
*** Easy enough to explain. Whatever "plunking" is annoyed a man "[[Top-Heavy Guy|six feet tall and nearly as broad across the shoulders]]". Given that even ''trolls'' fear his punch, the student wizards were likely "helped" up there courtesy of Carrot as a lesson to not disappoint him again.
** The very last sentence in ''[[Discworld/Making Money|Making Money]]'' mentions one, involving ''something'' that the ghost of Professor Flead did to prevent his chair from being removed from {{spoiler|1=the Pink PussyCat Club}}.
** From [[Discworld/Snuff|Snuff]]:
{{quote|Many a crime had been solved because of things that had fallen on [Colon and Nobby], tried to kill them, tripped one of them, been found floating in their lunch, and in one case had tried to lay its eggs up Nobby's nose.}}
* More [[Terry Pratchett]] (or possiblyand [[Neil Gaiman]]) fun from ''[[Good Omens]]'': whatever happened to the third baby in the mix-up with the Antichrist and the [[Minion with an F In Evil|Satanic nuns]]? You don't want to know what they ''could'' have done with him. Let's just imagine he was safely placed in a loving home, where he lived happily ever after and raised tropical fish. {{spoiler|Turns out that's exactly what happened to him.}}
* Lee Child's [[Jack Reacher]] novel ''61 Hours'' [[Playing with a Trope|plays with it]] by showing what happens when someone determined enough to keep trying actually starts to weedle the details out.
* As students of the ''[[Sherlock Holmes]]'' canon know well, Dr. Watson liberally sprinkles various Noodle Incidents in his narratives of Holmes's cases, making it [[Older Than Radio]]. Sherlockians have long been tantalized by references to such matters as "the shocking affair of the Dutch steamship ''Friesland'', which so nearly cost us both our lives," the case of Wilson the notorious canary-trainer, the repulsive story of the red leech, the story of "the Giant Rat of Sumatra, for which the world is not yet prepared," and "the singular adventures of the Grice Patersons in the island of Uffa"; for some reason, Dr. Watson never got around to writing these adventures up for publication. These references have been a fertile ground for amateur Sherlockian [[Fanfic]] and professional [[Sherlock Holmes]] pastiches alike for years.
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* In the third book of ''[[The Bartimaeus Trilogy]],'' ''Ptolemy's Gate'', the djinni Bartimaeus mentions twice the Case of the Anarchist and the Oyster that he helped his master Nathaniel solve. Upon bringing it up, Nathaniel winces and tells Bartimaeus to please not talk about it. This is possibly also a [[Rule of Three]] situation, since the Anarchist and the Oyster is the third of three such situations, the first two being the plots of the two previous books.
* ''[[The Neverending Story (novel)|The Neverending Story]]'' is littered with these; you can't go more than a half-dozen pages before the author mentions that such-and-such a character did x, y, or z, then adds, "But that's another story and shall be told another time." It became a plot point later on -- Bastian nearly couldn't leave Fantastica because he had to finish all those stories. Also, this may fit in well with the novel's overall Aesop (and the meaning behind the title), that everyone within a story has a story of his own, and those who explore them will find ''every'' story to be a true Neverending Story.
* ''[[Harry Potter]]'' is likewise full of those. Mostly itthey'sre in the form of books mentioned, of which three (''Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them'', ''Quidditch Through the Ages'', and ''Tales of Beedle the Bard'') arehave actuallybeen made[[Defictionalization|defictionalized]] -- but there are many which aren't, such as Hermione's favorite go-to, ''Hogwarts: A History''. There are goblin uprisings, house-elf history, and all those creatures -- even vampires, [[Our Vampires Are Different|which judging by HBP are not openly hostile]].
** Also a nice twist and version with Grindelwald. When in first book we hear that "Dumbledore... is famous for his victory over the dark wizard Grindelwald", we imagine it being a simple story -- that no one could beat Grindelwald, until young Dumbledore duelled the Dark wizard to the death and killed him. In the last book it is revealed that the story is [[Ho Yay|much]] [[Downer Ending|more]] [[Heroic BSOD|complicated]]...
** Aberforth Dumbledore's incident involving using illegal charms on a goat counts as this, seeing as what the charm was is never mentioned, and that Aberforth generally likes goats, enough for one to serve as his patronus, anyway.
*** Some people have guessed [[But You Screw One Goat!|what the]] [[Noodle Incident|"illegal charms"]] referred to either on their own in their gutter-minded imaginations or they guessed from a conversation between J. K. Rowling and a Harry Potter fan who asked about this particular [[Noodle Incident]]. J. K. Rowling started off by asking the fan's age and some people theorize that if the fan was not eight years old, J. K. Rowling would have said explicitly that the "illegal charms" were of the [[But You Screw One Goat!]] variety, judging by the fit of hysterical laughter she had when discussing it and the fact that she felt it necessary to ask the age of the fan.
** The reason for Hagrid's expulsion from the school is treated like this in the first book and part of the second. It's only brought up about once or twice, but apparently his reaction generally involves [paraphrasing] "clearing his throat loudly and suddenly becoming deaf until the subject is changed." Subverted when we find out the story later in ''[[TheHarry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (novel)|Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]''.
** Also, in ''[[The Chamber of Secrets]]'' Tom Riddle recalls Hagrid getting in trouble for "trying to raise werewolf cubs under his bed." This might have been untrue, since werewolves in [[Hthe Pworld]]setting have human babies, not cubs, but one wonders what Hagrid really ''did'' get up to.
** The first book mentions two, both related to Quidditch. One is a claim that referees are sometimes known to vanish and turn up in the Sahara Desert months later, which later turned out to be an exaggeration--it only happened once, and it was because his broom had been turned into a Portkey. The other one is the 1473 Quidditch World Cup, where all seven hundred fouls in the game were committed (and several were likely created). Among the things we know happen are that a Chaser was turned into a polecat, some players brought actual weapons onto the field, and that the Transylvanian team released a storm of vampire bats from under their cloaks. One has to wonder how many players survived the 1473 match, and what the hell kind of foul is worse than trying to kill someone with a broadsword.
** And then from ''[[Harry Potter and Thethe Deathly Hallows (novel)|The Deathly Hallows]]'', during Harry's infiltration into the Ministry of Magic. A young witch, among a group of employees present to witness the remains of decoys Harry set off, remarks: "I bet it sneaked up here from Experimental Charms, they're so careless, remember that poisonous duck?" The incident regarding the duck has not been mentioned, much less expanded upon, before or since.
*** The poisonous duck might be a [[Historical In-Joke]] reference to [[wikipedia:Platypus|the Platypus]], a bizarre hodgepodge animal that was considered a hoax when it was discovered. It has a duck bill, beaver tail and is poisonous.
*** On a similar note: on the way to Harry's hearing, a man at the Ministry mentions that they had found something that "We thought it was a bog-standard chicken until it started breathing fire..." This is never explained.
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*** {{spoiler|Putting on [[Artifact of Doom|Marvolo Gaunt's cursed ring]], which would have killed him if Snape hadn't helped him.}}
*** There's also a bit from Goblet of Fire, after the second Defense Against the Dark Arts class, where Ron asked Harry "Did you hear him telling Seamus what he did to that witch who shouted 'Boo' behind him on April Fools' Day?" with no further explanation made, ever.
** From the end of ''Half-Blood Prince'' on, a big deal is made of how Voldemort supposedly made six Horcruxes {{spoiler|which later turns out to be untrue, as Voldemort accidentally made Harry one of them}} but the exact details of actually making one after you commit murder are never mentioned.
*** Which isn't to say that JKR doesn't know. She mentioned in an interview that it is [[High Octance Nightmare Fuel]] (she told her publisher, and he felt like vomiting afterwards) and that it may well be published an a possible ''Harry Potter Encyclopedia''.
** And speaking of Voldemort, it is mentioned that when he was a child, he took two other children from the orphanage into the cave that Dumbledore and Harry go into later to retrieve {{spoiler|what turns out not to be}} one of Voldemort's Horcruxes and did something in their presence that traumatized them into silence, but the specific details are never divulged in-story.
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* In ''[[Maniac Magee]]'', the entire 12th year of Maniac's life is completely unaccounted-for in the urban legend's lore.
* In L. Jagi Lamplighter's ''[[Prospero's Daughter|Prospero Lost]]'', Mab ends up hanging in the closet at the Christmas feast. He tells Miranda he doesn't want to explain.
* In one of [[Peter S. Beagle]]'s Joe Farrell stories, Farrell had to [[It Makes Sense in Context|duel a ghost to the death with bad poetry.]] He's nearly beaten until he remembers [https://web.archive.org/web/20140220055900/http://homepages.wmich.edu/~cooneys/poems/bad/Marzials.Tragedy.html "A Tragedy" by Theophilus Marziels.] Before he recites it, he says, "Remind me to tell you how i learned it - there was a Kiowa Indian involved."
* [[Roger Zelazny]] creates a Noodle Incident in a sort-of inverted way in ''This Immortal'', when his narrator gives the story behind a song his wife is humming, about a wrestler who challenged the gods and was shortly thereafter killed by someone we quickly realize ''was'' the narrator, centuries before ... and then he adds, "Besides, that's not the way it really happened."
* One actually happens during the events of one [[Wheel of Time]] book. While Elayne is attempting to divine the purpose of several ''ter'angreal'', she tries waving Fire into one of them. The next thing she knows is waking up in her bed, with her traveling companions wearing highly amused grins and refusing to tell her what happened after she tried channeling.
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Snips flipped the document over. “Oh.”
”I hear Jake ‘The Beak’ Montgomery still shrieks like a little girl when he hears a quack.” }}
* ''[[The Mysteries of Harris Burdick]]'' is a picture book that is built on this Trope. According to the forward, a children's book editor named Peter Wenders meets someone named Harris Burdick who claims to be an author and editor, who shows him 14 illustratons - which are dark, ominous, and often frightening - with titles and captions, claiming each is an illustration for a story he has written. They do indeed pique Wenders' interests, but he is unable to find or contact Burdick again. Eventually, he brought them to Chris Van Allsburg (the true author) who published the fourteen illustrations alone, hoping someone would come forward with information on Burdick. Until then, the reader is encouraged to imagine their own stories to go with the illustrations. Some authors - including [[Stephen King]] and [[Louis Sachar]] - have done so. [https://www.slps.org/cms/lib/MO01001157/Centricity/Domain/10749/rotated.pdf Go on, try it!]
 
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