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* Certain songs by Kansas, such as "Dust In The Wind" and "Carry On Wayward Son." Some members of the group have, later on, joined the Christian Rock scene. Those songs are actually about a Platonistic world view, and a drug trip respectively.
* To this day, it's argued over whether or not [[Creed]] was Christian Rock. Whether they were or weren't seems to depend on whether Scott Stapp happened to think being a Christian was cool or not at the time the issue came up.
* "Spirit in The Sky": Norman Greenbaum is Jewish, but he thought it would be fun to write a gospel song, even though he knew nothing about gospel music. Of course, he had no idea that he'd end up as a [[One -Hit Wonder]], with that song as his one hit. The fact that it has [[Epic Riff|the most epic fuzz guitar riff ever recorded]] didn't hurt, either.
** And then Bauhaus [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zspU9LWZWFM covered it] and made it sound like a funeral dirge.
** It's been a UK number one hit for another two acts: Doctor And The Medics (vaguely pagan/druidic context) and Gareth Gates and The Kumars (vaguely Hindu context).
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*** Evanescence formed at a church camp, so the Christians can be forgiven for jumping to conclusions.
** [[Joy Electric]] is an interesting case because [[I Am the Band|sole member]] Ronnie Martin has mostly sung about depression and random, abstract stuff with very few references to Christianity for the better part of his career. A new fan would never guess that JE is a Christian project if he himself weren't so outspoken about his faith.
* [[Black Sabbath (Music)|Black Sabbath]] have some lyrics that most people would consider to be Christian if they weren't by, you know, Black Sabbath. They may be considered one of the [[Trope Maker]] bands for [[Heavy Metal (Music)|Heavy Metal]] songs about [[Satan]], [[Hell]] and [[The End of the World As We Know It]], but if you actually read the lyrics to some of their songs, they look more like fire-and-brimstone ''sermons'' than [[Shout -Out|shout outs]] to the devil. (A sample of the lyrics for "After Forever" provides the quote for this page.)
** When interviewed for the documentary ''Metal: a Headbanger's Journey'', Geezer Butler admitted the occult symbolism was basically [[No Such Thing As Bad Publicity|a marketing ploy]] to sell records. Other interviews suggest Butler wrote the lyrics for "After Forever" specifically to address people who didn't get it.
** And in relation to Black Sabbath being an example, pretty much ''every'' song Ronnie James Dio did as a solo artist after leaving Black Sabbath could qualify as either [[Heavy Mithril]] or as direct references to Catholic imagery. This even includes his invention of the famous "Metal Horns", derived from an Italian Roman Catholic traditional ward against witchcraft.
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* Parodied in this video with Nickelback: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sB9E8mRP6E
* Of all metal bands, '''''[[Slayer (Music)|Slayer]]''''' actually has an interesting variation that could potentially make the heads of [[The Fundamentalist]] explode en masse a la [[Scanners]]...especially hilarious if you know the trope they have bred of being essentially Eviller Than Venom.
** The song "[http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/slayer/southofheaven.html#2 Silent Scream]" on ''South Of Heaven'' is based on a [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silent_Scream:The Silent Scream|a rather infamous anti-abortion video]] (showing the dismemberment of a fetus by D&X via ultrasound, very graphically focusing on the apparent death throes of the fetus). In fact, the song lyrics pretty much EXACTLY match the plotline of the film and are in part written from the perspective of the fetus being aborted.
** Of note: "Silent Scream" (the movie) is fairly obscure outside of evangelical and Catholic anti-abortion circles. Tom Araya (who penned the lyrics) is actually a [http://www.themetalinquisition.com/2008/01/tom-araya-is-catholic-kerry-king-is.html rather devout Catholic].
* A few of [[The Who|Pete Townshend's]] songs, including "Bargain", "Drowned" and "Let My Love Open the Door", could be considered Christian rock... were Townshend not a pseudo-Hindu pantheist who follows the teachings of Meher Baba. The latter song, according to Townshend, is explicitly written from God's POV.
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* [[Avenged Sevenfold (Music)|Avenged Sevenfold]] has a lot of Christian imagery in some of their songs (referencing the [[Book of Revelation (Literature)|Book of Revelation]], and a song called Dear God, along with others like it). However if you listen to (and watch the videos for) songs like Beast and the Harlot, Bat Country, and ironically, A Little Piece of Heaven...
** Note that the aforementioned "Beast and the Harlot" doesn't just reference Revelation, it's pretty much pulled directly from it and rearranged a bit.
** And their name itself is likely a reference to the biblical [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Of_Cain:Mark Of Cain|Mark of Cain]], with which God said, "Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over" (in other words, were Cain to be killed, he would be ''avenged sevenfold'').
*** They also have a song about Cain and Abel ("Chapter 4", named for the chpter in Genesis which the story occours.)
* With the song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJdIP3kR5qA "Without Faith"], which is about how [[Puff of Logic|if God's proven to exist, he won't]] and the Bible reference in their name, it's not surprising ThouShaltNot often gets mistaken for Christian Rock.
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* The sincere-sounding song "Jesus" by the Velvet Underground was written by Lou Reed, a Jew.
* [[Florence and The Machine]]'s religiously themed lyrics can be misconstrued into being christian rock. However considering that her music is influenced by gothic art (which had ''heavy'' religious themes) this probably isn't the case.
* Disco group [http://www.last.fm/music/Fan+Death Fan Death's] song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7WxAeLaRV0 "Veronica's Veil" ] is about [http://en.[wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Veronica:Saint Veronica|Saint Veronica]] told from Veronica's point of view. This is quite odd considering Dadillion Wind Opaine (vocalist of Fan Death) has criticized religion in another song.
* "The Catalyst" by [[Linkin Park]] is a song that can pretty much be described as a desperate prayer to God asking him to save us from all the corrupt war in this world. Also, "What I've Done" is basiclly a song about forgiving your sins. Some members of the band are infact Christian, however they are not a Christian band.
* Mike Oldfield has put so many Christian-sounding lyrics and themes in his music that he had to be asked in interview if it was intentional. His reponse, in oh so many words, was, "I'm not religious; I'm spiritual."
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* Brand New are definitely not a Christian band, but you could be forgiven for thinking that after listening to "Jesus Christ".
* [[Fun With Acronyms|V.A.S.T.]] could very easily pass for a Christian Rock band, especially what with the song "I'm Dying"'s lyrics; but when you take the rest of their songs into consideration....well "I didn't want to fuck you baby but you're pretty when you cry" isn't exactly a Christian rock lyric.
* [[Flyleaf]] has some explicity religious songs, alongside others [["God Is Love" Songs|that are not explicity religious but are easily interpreted that way]], but they prefer not to call themselves [[Christian Rock]].
** Further confusion arrises from the fact that all of the members are Christian.
* [[Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly|Death/Thrash/Groove]] metal band The Showdown is an interesting case. Their first album is clearly Christian (all of the songs are bible stories, and the last song is a prayerfully song power ballad about finding rest in Heaven), but after that album, the Christian refrences got more and more subtle (they are still there however). All the members are Christians, but they do not consider themselves a Christian band.
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