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{{quote|''"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say''<br />
{{quote|''"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say''
''If they knew you believed in God above?''<br />
''If they knew you believed in God above?''
''They should realize before they criticize''<br />
''They should realize before they criticize''
''That God is the only way to love"''|'''[[Black Sabbath]]''' (yes, ''that'' [[Black Sabbath]]), "After Forever"}}
''That God is the only way to love"''|'''[[Black Sabbath]]''' (yes, ''that'' [[Black Sabbath]]), "After Forever"}}


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* Most of the songs by [[Spiritualized]] use faith as a theme (as you would expect with this band name), and how the singer fails to be saved (notably from substance abuse). He sometimes resorts to begging to an unseen God. Their sound is orchestral and processional. Good examples are
* Most of the songs by [[Spiritualized]] use faith as a theme (as you would expect with this band name), and how the singer fails to be saved (notably from substance abuse). He sometimes resorts to begging to an unseen God. Their sound is orchestral and processional. Good examples are
** "The Straight and the Narrow":
** "The Straight and the Narrow":
{{quote| The trouble with the straight and the narrow is it's so thin I keep sliding of to the side.<br />
{{quote|The trouble with the straight and the narrow is it's so thin I keep sliding of to the side.
And the devil makes good use of these hands of mine.<br />
And the devil makes good use of these hands of mine.
And if Jesus is the straight path that saves then I'm content to live my whole life on the curb.<br />
And if Jesus is the straight path that saves then I'm content to live my whole life on the curb.
On the crossroads of the devil out where I'll count my years. }}
On the crossroads of the devil out where I'll count my years. }}
** "Feel So Sad":
** "Feel So Sad":
{{quote| Sweet lord I know I hate this lonely life so.<br />
{{quote|Sweet lord I know I hate this lonely life so.
Lord I know, time goes slow, I feel so alone. Sweet lord.<br />
Lord I know, time goes slow, I feel so alone. Sweet lord.
Sweet lord is this my fate to live my life in this state.<br />
Sweet lord is this my fate to live my life in this state.
Lord I pray I long for a change but it still remains. Sweet lord. }}
Lord I pray I long for a change but it still remains. Sweet lord. }}
** And from the same singer's earlier band Spacemen 3:
** And from the same singer's earlier band Spacemen 3:
{{quote| I walked with Jesus and he would say<br />
{{quote|I walked with Jesus and he would say
"Oh you poor child, you ain't comin' to me no way<br />
"Oh you poor child, you ain't comin' to me no way
You've found Heaven on Earth, gonna burn for your sin"<br />
You've found Heaven on Earth, gonna burn for your sin"
But I think I'll be in good company down there with all my friends<br />
But I think I'll be in good company down there with all my friends
So listen sweet Lord, forgive me my sin<br />
So listen sweet Lord, forgive me my sin
Cos I can't stand this life without sweet heroin }}
Cos I can't stand this life without sweet heroin }}
* Both the music and lyrics of [[Dire Straits]]' "Solid Rock" sound incredibly churchy, but it doesn't have any specific Biblical or God-related references.
* Both the music and lyrics of [[Dire Straits]]' "Solid Rock" sound incredibly churchy, but it doesn't have any specific Biblical or God-related references.
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** Also seen in the video for "Ruin", where they play to a bewildered church congregation.
** Also seen in the video for "Ruin", where they play to a bewildered church congregation.
* The Hold Steady write songs about Catholicism, but they're not a Christian rock band. It's all mixed up in drug taking, sex, and teenage rebellion anyway...
* The Hold Steady write songs about Catholicism, but they're not a Christian rock band. It's all mixed up in drug taking, sex, and teenage rebellion anyway...
{{quote| "I guess I heard about original sin, I heard the dude blamed the chick, I heard the chick blamed the snake. I heard they were naked when they got busted, and I heard things ain't been the same since."}}
{{quote|"I guess I heard about original sin, I heard the dude blamed the chick, I heard the chick blamed the snake. I heard they were naked when they got busted, and I heard things ain't been the same since."}}
* [[System of a Down]]'s "Chop Suey!" almost sounds like it could be about the crucifixion, what with its talk of self-righteous suicide and angels deserving to die. And, you know, actually quoting Jesus on the cross. It's actually about the Armenians genocide by the Turkish. Which explains the Jesus-quote:
* [[System of a Down]]'s "Chop Suey!" almost sounds like it could be about the crucifixion, what with its talk of self-righteous suicide and angels deserving to die. And, you know, actually quoting Jesus on the cross. It's actually about the Armenians genocide by the Turkish. Which explains the Jesus-quote:


{{quote| Father, into your hands I commit my spirit. <br />
{{quote|Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.
Father, into your hands...<br />
Father, into your hands...
Why have you forsaken me?<br />
Why have you forsaken me?
In your eyes forsaken me.<br />
In your eyes forsaken me.
In your heart forsaken me.<br />
In your heart forsaken me.
In your thoughts forsaken me. }}
In your thoughts forsaken me. }}


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* Lifehouse at least has Christian members, but their music isn't explicitly Christian and several songs sound pretty spiritual but have been interpreted to be more soft-rockish love songs ("Everything," "Spin," "The First Time," etc.). This gets confusing when they have songs that seem to be explicitly about a romantic relationship ("You and Me" would be pretty difficult to interpret as religious). To be fair lots of openly Christian bands also write romantically oriented songs: Relient K, Delirious?, etc.
* Lifehouse at least has Christian members, but their music isn't explicitly Christian and several songs sound pretty spiritual but have been interpreted to be more soft-rockish love songs ("Everything," "Spin," "The First Time," etc.). This gets confusing when they have songs that seem to be explicitly about a romantic relationship ("You and Me" would be pretty difficult to interpret as religious). To be fair lots of openly Christian bands also write romantically oriented songs: Relient K, Delirious?, etc.
* Human Fortress is a typical power metal band, until they throw a song like "Defenders of the Crown" at you.
* Human Fortress is a typical power metal band, until they throw a song like "Defenders of the Crown" at you.
{{quote| God, sons ask for Thyself to honor Jesus' majesty<br />
{{quote|God, sons ask for Thyself to honor Jesus' majesty
We shall return proud from the sea<br />
We shall return proud from the sea
Richard the Lionheart, the leader of the century<br />
Richard the Lionheart, the leader of the century
Fought for the cross, for Christianity }}
Fought for the cross, for Christianity }}
* [[Avenged Sevenfold]] has a lot of Christian imagery in some of their songs (referencing the [[Book of Revelation]], and a song called Dear God, along with others like it). However if you listen to (and watch the videos for) songs like Beast and the Harlot, Bat Country, and ironically, A Little Piece of Heaven...
* [[Avenged Sevenfold]] has a lot of Christian imagery in some of their songs (referencing the [[Book of Revelation]], and a song called Dear God, along with others like it). However if you listen to (and watch the videos for) songs like Beast and the Harlot, Bat Country, and ironically, A Little Piece of Heaven...
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* Some of [[AFI]]'s lyrics have Christian-inspired imagery... further inspection of their other lyrics show that Davey was only raised Catholic, but is far from what you'd call practicing.
* Some of [[AFI]]'s lyrics have Christian-inspired imagery... further inspection of their other lyrics show that Davey was only raised Catholic, but is far from what you'd call practicing.
* [[Switchfoot]] frequently gets the Christian Rock label, but the band itself views itself as being this trope.
* [[Switchfoot]] frequently gets the Christian Rock label, but the band itself views itself as being this trope.
{{quote| "As a Christian, I have a lot to say within the walls of the church. But also, as a Christian, I've got a lot to say just about life in general."}}
{{quote|"As a Christian, I have a lot to say within the walls of the church. But also, as a Christian, I've got a lot to say just about life in general."}}
* [[Killswitch Engage]] has tons of [[The Bible|Bible]]-influenced lyrics, but the band doesn't describe itself as Christian metal.
* [[Killswitch Engage]] has tons of [[The Bible|Bible]]-influenced lyrics, but the band doesn't describe itself as Christian metal.
* The Finnish band HIM or H.I.M. (which may or may not stand for His Infernal Majesty, depending on which interview you believe) is sometimes found listed under Christian music. Perhaps because they have a song titled "The Face of God" which is actually, like the vast majority of their songs, about a very earthly kind of love.
* The Finnish band HIM or H.I.M. (which may or may not stand for His Infernal Majesty, depending on which interview you believe) is sometimes found listed under Christian music. Perhaps because they have a song titled "The Face of God" which is actually, like the vast majority of their songs, about a very earthly kind of love.
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* Collective Soul has gone on record stating that they're not a Christian rock band, but that they have a general spiritual feeling to their songs. It's not helped by the fact that the father of the Roland brothers was a minister and their first big hit, "Shine", features the chorus "Heaven let your light shine down!"
* Collective Soul has gone on record stating that they're not a Christian rock band, but that they have a general spiritual feeling to their songs. It's not helped by the fact that the father of the Roland brothers was a minister and their first big hit, "Shine", features the chorus "Heaven let your light shine down!"
* [[Audioslave]] has spiritual overtones in their music, with songs like "Show Me How To Live" and "Last Remaining Light". "Show Me How To Live"'s lyrics are very spiritual in nature with a reference to Jesus's crucifixion:
* [[Audioslave]] has spiritual overtones in their music, with songs like "Show Me How To Live" and "Last Remaining Light". "Show Me How To Live"'s lyrics are very spiritual in nature with a reference to Jesus's crucifixion:
{{quote| Nail in my hand<br />
{{quote|Nail in my hand
From my creator<br />
From my creator
You gave me life now<br />
You gave me life now
Show me how to live }}
Show me how to live }}
* "Are You Gonna Go My Way" by Lenny Kravitz is a song which basically combines the message of Jesus Christ with an [[Epic Riff]]. Kravitz has explicitly stated that the song is about Christ and that [[Jesus Was Way Cool|"Jesus was a pretty cool guy."]]
* "Are You Gonna Go My Way" by Lenny Kravitz is a song which basically combines the message of Jesus Christ with an [[Epic Riff]]. Kravitz has explicitly stated that the song is about Christ and that [[Jesus Was Way Cool|"Jesus was a pretty cool guy."]]
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* Despite their name, Aussie [[Psychedelic Rock|psych rockers]] The Church aren't Christian Rock, tho they've veered tangentially into such territory on rare occasions. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw9s7Md210k "Radiance".]
* Despite their name, Aussie [[Psychedelic Rock|psych rockers]] The Church aren't Christian Rock, tho they've veered tangentially into such territory on rare occasions. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw9s7Md210k "Radiance".]
* In This Moment can be considered this, especially with their song "Ashes". The song is about the Apocalypse, and the bridge (below) even makes a reference to the star Wormwood.
* In This Moment can be considered this, especially with their song "Ashes". The song is about the Apocalypse, and the bridge (below) even makes a reference to the star Wormwood.
{{quote| It is said hail and fire mixed with blood will be thrown down upon the earth<br />
{{quote|It is said hail and fire mixed with blood will be thrown down upon the earth
Darkness fills a third of the land<br />
Darkness fills a third of the land
And the angels will cry woe<br />
And the angels will cry woe
A star from the heavens is thrown from the sky<br />
A star from the heavens is thrown from the sky
Destroying a third of the seas<br />
Destroying a third of the seas
Not only these things but more will come<br />
Not only these things but more will come
It is our fate<br />
It is our fate
It is the end<br />
It is the end
Apocalypse }}
Apocalypse }}
* We Came As Romans has been mistaken for being Christian Metalcore because some of their songs have an uplifting theme/message in their lyrics.
* We Came As Romans has been mistaken for being Christian Metalcore because some of their songs have an uplifting theme/message in their lyrics.