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* [[Bob Seger]] refuses to allow his early albums to be reissued on CD. This is actually a subversion in that many fans regard titles like ''Mongrel'', ''Back in '72'' or ''Seven'' to be as good as, if not better than, Seger's more commonly-available later stuff.
* [[Bob Seger]] refuses to allow his early albums to be reissued on CD. This is actually a subversion in that many fans regard titles like ''Mongrel'', ''Back in '72'' or ''Seven'' to be as good as, if not better than, Seger's more commonly-available later stuff.
** However, Seger's ''Live Bullet'' album ''has'' been kept in print, and it includes versions of some of those early songs - such as "Turn the Page" and "Katmandu" - which went on to become staples of classic rock radio.
** However, Seger's ''Live Bullet'' album ''has'' been kept in print, and it includes versions of some of those early songs - such as "Turn the Page" and "Katmandu" - which went on to become staples of classic rock radio.
* Similarly to Bob Seger above, Neil Diamond won't allow most of his Bang Records recordings from the 1960s to be reissued, even though many people believe that's the best stuff he ever did.
* Similarly to Bob Seger above, [[Neil Diamond]] won't allow most of his Bang Records recordings from the 1960s to be reissued, even though many people believe that's the best stuff he ever did.
* Before the band Hurt released their first album "Vol. 1," they released two other albums prior to that: their self-titled album and "The Consummation". The latter was eventually released in 2008 under the name "The Re-Consummation", while the former will most likely never see the light of day again because as J. Loren (the band's singer) put it, it was "poorly done and actually diminishes from the intentions behind the songs." Some of the songs from said album were released between Vol. 1 and Vol. II, however, they've confirmed that the songs from both albums are drastically different from the early songs (an [https://web.archive.org/web/20080903141505/http://hurt.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?showtopic=2674 interview] with the singer states that the self titled album's ''Summers Lost and Abuse of SID'' is different from Vol. II versions).
* Before the band Hurt released their first album "Vol. 1," they released two other albums prior to that: their self-titled album and "The Consummation". The latter was eventually released in 2008 under the name "The Re-Consummation", while the former will most likely never see the light of day again because as J. Loren (the band's singer) put it, it was "poorly done and actually diminishes from the intentions behind the songs." Some of the songs from said album were released between Vol. 1 and Vol. II, however, they've confirmed that the songs from both albums are drastically different from the early songs (an [https://web.archive.org/web/20080903141505/http://hurt.forumsunlimited.com/index.php?showtopic=2674 interview] with the singer states that the self titled album's ''Summers Lost and Abuse of SID'' is different from Vol. II versions).
* Celtic Frost - Cold Lake. Considered one of the worst metal albums of all time (along with St. Anger), the band refused to re-issue it.
* [[Celtic Frost]] - Cold Lake. Considered one of the worst metal albums of all time (along with St. Anger), the band refused to re-issue it.
* Perhaps some of the most infamous examples are the [[Unfortunate Implications|"racist"]] freestyles that a teenaged [[Eminem]] recorded, after being dumped by a black girlfriend. To this day, he hates the fact that those tapes ever saw the light of day, and even made a song to officially apologize for ever creating them. [[Word of God|Eminem himself]] has confirmed ''Infinite'' as his personal [[Old Shame]], citing that he had not found his style yet (and it shows, notably, his [[Refuge in Audacity|Slim]] [[Evil Is Cool|Shady]] persona is nowhere to be found on the album) and that he [[Follow the Leader|sounded too much like Nas]]. Em also seems to be disappointed with his "comeback" CD, Relapse. On "Not Afraid", he actually apologizes for it.
* Perhaps some of the most infamous examples are the [[Unfortunate Implications|"racist"]] freestyles that a teenaged [[Eminem]] recorded, after being dumped by a black girlfriend. To this day, he hates the fact that those tapes ever saw the light of day, and even made a song to officially apologize for ever creating them. [[Word of God|Eminem himself]] has confirmed ''Infinite'' as his personal [[Old Shame]], citing that he had not found his style yet (and it shows, notably, his [[Refuge in Audacity|Slim]] [[Evil Is Cool|Shady]] persona is nowhere to be found on the album) and that he [[Follow the Leader|sounded too much like Nas]]. Em also seems to be disappointed with his "comeback" CD, Relapse. On "Not Afraid", he actually apologizes for it.
* Sergei Rachmaninoff's "Prelude in C-sharp minor", written early in his career, became his most famous piece. He detested it, and often would refuse to play it when he performed.
* Sergei Rachmaninoff's "Prelude in C-sharp minor", written early in his career, became his most famous piece. He detested it, and often would refuse to play it when he performed.
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* Composer Hector Berlioz had taken to "burning" compositions of his that he disliked, though often the manuscripts were not actually destroyed but filed away. One of these works, the ''Messe Solennelle'', was not rediscovered until 1991.
* Composer Hector Berlioz had taken to "burning" compositions of his that he disliked, though often the manuscripts were not actually destroyed but filed away. One of these works, the ''Messe Solennelle'', was not rediscovered until 1991.
* Comedic singer Tony Goldmark, as a young teen, put together an album of kids' songs, ''You Bug Me!: Songs Guaranteed to Annoy Your Parents''. Fast forward a decade-plus, and with two more albums and numerous hits on ''The Dr. Demento Show'', he does not recommend ''You Bug Me'' as part of his body of work, even having [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|an audience member]] reference it near the end of his "second" full-length comedy music album - just so he can shoot the guy for bringing it up!
* Comedic singer Tony Goldmark, as a young teen, put together an album of kids' songs, ''You Bug Me!: Songs Guaranteed to Annoy Your Parents''. Fast forward a decade-plus, and with two more albums and numerous hits on ''The Dr. Demento Show'', he does not recommend ''You Bug Me'' as part of his body of work, even having [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|an audience member]] reference it near the end of his "second" full-length comedy music album - just so he can shoot the guy for bringing it up!
* Sandie Shaw was like that for the longest time with her Eurovision song, ''Puppet on a String.'' Similarly, there's Lulu with her Eurovision entries (''Boom Bang A Bang'' and ''I'm a Tiger'').
* Sandie Shaw was like that for the longest time with her [[Eurovision Song Contest|Eurovision]] song, ''Puppet on a String.'' Similarly, there's Lulu with her Eurovision entries (''Boom Bang A Bang'' and ''I'm a Tiger'').
* Musician in a Comedian's Body [[Stephen Lynch]] shows endless remorse over an early song called "The Bowling Song", so the audience inevitably asks for it whenever he plays.
* Musician in a Comedian's Body [[Stephen Lynch]] shows endless remorse over an early song called "The Bowling Song", so the audience inevitably asks for it whenever he plays.
* Before he was in [[Ace of Base]], Ulf Ekberg was in an 80s punk band called Commit Suiside, who wrote extremely-racist lyrics and got him in trouble when Ace of Base started to achieve fame in the 90s. Yeah, he doesn't like talking about that band anymore.
* Before he was in [[Ace of Base]], Ulf Ekberg was in an 80s punk band called Commit Suiside, who wrote extremely-racist lyrics and got him in trouble when Ace of Base started to achieve fame in the 90s. Yeah, he doesn't like talking about that band anymore.
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*** He's also may have warmed up to the original albums, stating that he's dug up additional artwork for each of those albums and is probably readying a box set for them.
*** He's also may have warmed up to the original albums, stating that he's dug up additional artwork for each of those albums and is probably readying a box set for them.
* [[Wu-Tang Clan]] members RZA and GZA had solo careers prior to the groups formation as Prince Rakeem and The Genius respectively. Both have expressed disdain over the image they were given and honestly, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTPB9inzOPU you can't] blame them.
* [[Wu-Tang Clan]] members RZA and GZA had solo careers prior to the groups formation as Prince Rakeem and The Genius respectively. Both have expressed disdain over the image they were given and honestly, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTPB9inzOPU you can't] blame them.
* Judging by interviews it seems that former Panic! at the Disco guitarist/main songwriter Ryan Ross is pretty embarrassed over Panic!'s 2005 emo-heavy debut ''A Fever You Can't Sweat Out'', which he wrote when he was still a teenager. Probably due to Ross completely rejecting emo [[New Sound Album|in favor of classic rock]].
* Judging by interviews it seems that former [[Panic! at the Disco]] guitarist/main songwriter Ryan Ross is pretty embarrassed over Panic!'s 2005 emo-heavy debut ''A Fever You Can't Sweat Out'', which he wrote when he was still a teenager. Probably due to Ross completely rejecting emo [[New Sound Album|in favor of classic rock]].
* Charlie Simpson of emo band Fightstar is well known for having been in the pop-punk boyband Busted. Whilst he doesn't regret it, many of Fightstar's fans do.
* Charlie Simpson of emo band Fightstar is well known for having been in the pop-punk boyband Busted. Whilst he doesn't regret it, many of Fightstar's fans do.
* Japan's first album Adolescent Sex is an old shame for David Sylvian, who has long past moved from its camp synth glam rock to sophisticated ambient music. He wishes the album hadn't been released, mainly because they didn't have much control over the way it was handled.
* Japan's first album Adolescent Sex is an old shame for David Sylvian, who has long past moved from its camp synth glam rock to sophisticated ambient music. He wishes the album hadn't been released, mainly because they didn't have much control over the way it was handled.
* Muse's early demo tapes especially This Is A Muse Demo, which they've had people outbid the fans for on two occasions so no one can hear it.
* [[Muse (band)|Muse]]'s early demo tapes especially This Is A Muse Demo, which they've had people outbid the fans for on two occasions so no one can hear it.
* Jay-Z has admitted that the lyrics in "Big Pimpin" strike a nerve with him nowadays, considering that his views on relationships have changed drastically since then.
* [[Jay-Z]] has admitted that the lyrics in "Big Pimpin" strike a nerve with him nowadays, considering that his views on relationships have changed drastically since then.
* [[Randy Travis]] recorded an album called ''Wind in the Wire'' for a TV series of the same name. The label didn't promote the album well, and its singles both tanked miserably at radio (although one went to #10 in Canada). This album is widely considered one of Travis's worst. Even Warner Bros. Nashville's then-senior VP of marketing agreed, saying that it was an "angst" period for the label.
* [[Randy Travis]] recorded an album called ''Wind in the Wire'' for a TV series of the same name. The label didn't promote the album well, and its singles both tanked miserably at radio (although one went to #10 in Canada). This album is widely considered one of Travis's worst. Even Warner Bros. Nashville's then-senior VP of marketing agreed, saying that it was an "angst" period for the label.
* Buffalo hardcore band Every Time I Die hate their debut EP ''Burial Plot Bidding War'' so much when asked to give his favorite song, lead singer Keith Buckley said "Having a favorite song means you like something on it...and i dont."
* Buffalo hardcore band Every Time I Die hate their debut EP ''Burial Plot Bidding War'' so much when asked to give his favorite song, lead singer Keith Buckley said "Having a favorite song means you like something on it...and i dont."
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* [[Michael Bolton]] would prefer it if people forgot he was ever a hard rock singer, but 1985's ''Everybody's Crazy'' is still regarded as a classic of its type.
* [[Michael Bolton]] would prefer it if people forgot he was ever a hard rock singer, but 1985's ''Everybody's Crazy'' is still regarded as a classic of its type.
* [[Britney Spears]] subverts this trope in that she's not all that upset by her bubble gum past (but plays the trope straight with the red outfit she wore in ''Oops, I Did It Again'').
* [[Britney Spears]] subverts this trope in that she's not all that upset by her bubble gum past (but plays the trope straight with the red outfit she wore in ''Oops, I Did It Again'').
* For [[Music/Guster|Guster]], they're a bit ashamed of their first single, "Happy Frappy," from their first album, finding it extremely trite. While plenty of other material from their early albums still get play, they all but refuse to acknowledge "Happy Frappy" at all; There are only two known times they've played the song live since 1998.
* For [[Guster]], they're a bit ashamed of their first single, "Happy Frappy," from their first album, finding it extremely trite. While plenty of other material from their early albums still get play, they all but refuse to acknowledge "Happy Frappy" at all; There are only two known times they've played the song live since 1998.
* Rodney Atkins' first single, the 1997 flop "In a Heartbeat", had him singing in a Roy Orbison-esque voice while wearing a cowboy hat and mustache. Dissatisfied with his material at the time, Atkins asked the head of his label for a change in producers. Atkins did one album (2003's ''Honesty'') as basically a hatless, mustache-less [[Tim McGraw]] clone before finding his niche in 2006 as a baseball cap-wearing purveyor of positive, life-affirming uptempos (e.g. "If You're Going Through Hell") and easily relatable songs about fatherhood and family (e.g. "Watching You", "Cleaning This Gun"). Atkins has disowned everything from before "If You're Going Through Hell".
* Rodney Atkins' first single, the 1997 flop "In a Heartbeat", had him singing in a Roy Orbison-esque voice while wearing a cowboy hat and mustache. Dissatisfied with his material at the time, Atkins asked the head of his label for a change in producers. Atkins did one album (2003's ''Honesty'') as basically a hatless, mustache-less [[Tim McGraw]] clone before finding his niche in 2006 as a baseball cap-wearing purveyor of positive, life-affirming uptempos (e.g. "If You're Going Through Hell") and easily relatable songs about fatherhood and family (e.g. "Watching You", "Cleaning This Gun"). Atkins has disowned everything from before "If You're Going Through Hell".
* [[Coldplay]] have straight-up called their first album, ''Parachutes'', "terrible music". A case where most people (fans, critics, even nonfans) disagree.
* [[Coldplay]] have straight-up called their first album, ''Parachutes'', "terrible music". A case where most people (fans, critics, even nonfans) disagree.
* [[Boards of Canada]] have refused to acknowledge any of their releases prior to ''Twoism''. They consist of a mix of good-quality tracks and some that...probably justify the band's attitude towards them. They're still highly sought-after by fans, though.
* [[Boards of Canada]] have refused to acknowledge any of their releases prior to ''Twoism''. They consist of a mix of good-quality tracks and some that...probably justify the band's attitude towards them. They're still highly sought-after by fans, though.
* [[Jethro Tull|Jethro Tull's]] Ian Anderson seems to feel this way about the band's 1973 [[Concept Album]], ''A Passion Play'' (feeling it was over-arranged and lacked humor), and to 1975's ''Minstrel In The Gallery'' (considering it well-recorded and produced, but too dark lyrically). His use of soprano and sopranino saxophones in general on the 1972-74 material come under fire, too, as he decided he didn't really like the sound or feel comfortable playing the instrument, and only tried them to see if he could develop a love for it or find a way to make it a pleasant experience for himself.
* [[Jethro Tull]]'s Ian Anderson seems to feel this way about the band's 1973 [[Concept Album]], ''A Passion Play'' (feeling it was over-arranged and lacked humor), and to 1975's ''Minstrel In The Gallery'' (considering it well-recorded and produced, but too dark lyrically). His use of soprano and sopranino saxophones in general on the 1972-74 material come under fire, too, as he decided he didn't really like the sound or feel comfortable playing the instrument, and only tried them to see if he could develop a love for it or find a way to make it a pleasant experience for himself.
* While they don't seem to disown their debut-era ''musical'' output, most members of [[BTS (band)|BTS]] are not happy with some of the styling and promotional choices they did at the time. They also seem to be regretful of several early-career remarks they did on interviews and lyrics about race issues that were born from ignorance. Doubly so in both accounts for group leader RM, which at the time used the stage name "Rap Monster" and looked and acted like he could illustrate the page for [[Pretty Fly for a White Guy]].


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