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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
 
== Anime and Manga ==
* In ''[[Gate Keepers 21]]'', several of the heroes from the original ''[[Gate Keepers]]'', now grown up, are around as commanders, mentors and even parents to the new cast, and {{spoiler|one of them has become the new series' Big Bad}}.
* Miwa "Micchi" Uzuki, [[The Chick]] in the original ''[[Kotetsu Jeeg]]'', becomes [[The Captain]] in the [[Revival]], ''Koutetsushin Jeeg''.
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* Smith in ''[[Ginga Densetsu Weed]]''.
 
== [[Comic Books]] ==
 
== Comic Books ==
* [[The DCU]] often has [[The Golden Age of Comic Books|Golden Age]] superheroes filling this role, especially Jay Garrick (the [[The Golden Age of Comic Books|Golden Age]] [[Flash]]) and Max Mercury to Wally West (the [[Post-Crisis]] [[Flash]]) and Impulse.
* The [[X-Men]] are often shown as teachers to young, teenage mutants—which many of the X-Men were when introduced.
 
== [[Film]] ==
 
== Film ==
* Don Diego Vega (Anthony Hopkins), the original Zorro, returns to train Alejandro Murrieta (Antonio Banderas) in ''[[The Mask of Zorro]]''.
* [[The Ditz|Frenchie]] from ''[[Grease]]'' returns to high school (yes, as a student) to be mentor to the next decade's [[New Transfer Student]] Michael Carrington in ''[[Grease 2]]''.
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* Obi Wan Kenobi over the course of the [[Star Wars]] films, who starts off as an apprentice to Qui Gon Jin, but becomes more of a wise and experienced Jedi master, culminating in him teaching Luke, his [[A Pupil of Mine Until He Turned to Evil|former]] [[We Used to Be Friends|padawan's]] son, about the Force in the beginning of [[A New Hope|episode IV]]. Luke goes through a similar development going from a whiny teenager in episode IV, to a wise, up-and-coming Jedi master himself in [[Return of the Jedi|episode VI]].
 
== [[Literature]] ==
 
== Literature ==
* Henry in ''[[The Time Traveler's Wife]]'' managed to be an Older and Wiser mentor to ''himself''.
* Used in each subsequent ''[[Tortall]]'' series by [[Tamora Pierce]]. Especially Alanna (''Song of the Lioness'') to Kel (''Protector of the Small''), and George (''Song of the Lioness'') to Aly (''Trickster'' books).
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* The [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]] has Ferus Olin, who was a contemporary of Anakin in the ''[[Jedi Quest]]'' series as a teenager, was a young adult and the main character of the ''Last of the Jedi'' series, and returned in the ''Rebel Force'' books to serve as on-again-off-again mentor to Luke and Leia. He does indeed have a [[Heroic Sacrifice]] and a [[You Are Not Alone|genuinely moving death scene]].
 
== [[Live -Action TV]] ==
 
== Live Action TV ==
* Sarah Jane Smith in ''[[The Sarah Jane Adventures]]''. Explicitly shown in "Turn Left": {{spoiler|In the Doctor-less alternate universe, Sarah Jane takes the Doctor's role in averting a disaster he stopped (or ''would'' have stopped) in the episode "Smith and Jones", though she dies in the process}}.
* Tommy in ''[[Power Rangers Dino Thunder]]'', who returns to superheroing as the team mentor figure after taking seven years off for college, graduate school, a doctorate program, and wildly successful research on superpowered dinosaur cyborgs. It is unknown, but doubtful, if the character slept between his departure in 1997 and return in 2004.
* Barney Collier from ''[[Mission: Impossible]]'' appeared in some episodes of the revival series, while his son was one of the main characters (and their actors were [[Real Life Relative|father and son]], too).
* Steed in ''[[The New Avengers]]''
* Although ''[[Welcome Back, Kotter]]'' didn't have any prior show, the character Gabe Kotter was a former student who comes back to his high school alma mater to teach an often unruly group of remedial wiseguys known as the "Sweathogs", of which he was a founding member.
* Colonel Samantha Carter is promoted from a member of the [[Five-Man Band]] in ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'' to the leader of the Atlantis Expedition in ''[[Stargate Atlantis]]''. The timespan is a bit shorter, but the concept is the same.
** [[Four-Star Badass|Lieutenant General]] [[Stargate Verse|Jack O'Neill]] takes on this role in ''[[Stargate Universe]]''.
* When Faith first appears in ''[[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]'' she's a cynic, a [[Blood Knight]] and especially because she is a Slayer she can have and do whatever she wants. Now she tries to teach other Slayers that [[With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility]] and [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity]], is on the lookout for those who might go [[Knight Templar]], and is insightful enough to know that Angel created monsters, and tears himself up over having to live with them.
* The series ''[[Willow (series)|Willow]]'' on [[Disney+]], which takes place 17 years after the events in [[Willow| the film]], has the title character noticably older and a far more skilled wizard. Justified, as he is still played by [[Warwick Davis]], who is 35 years older.
 
== Video[[Tabletop Games]] ==
* In the ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' game, [https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Counselor_Lily Counselor Lily] is an older, more educated version of [https://yugioh.fandom.com/wiki/Injection_Fairy_Lily Injection Fairy Lily], having been promoted to an administrative position.
 
== [[Theatre]] ==
* Although still technically the main character, Oedipus of ''[[Oedipus at Colonus]]'' has completely transformed from his portrayal in ''[[Oedipus the King]]'' and provides a contrast with the rest of the cast which is younger.
 
== [[Video Games]] ==
 
== Video Games ==
* Ryu and Ken in ''[[Street Fighter]] III'', and Terry Bogard in ''[[Fatal Fury|Garou: Mark of the Wolves]]''
* Solid Snake in ''[[Metal Gear]] Solid 2'', since he'd become so [[Memetic Badass|Badass]] that it could no longer be constrained by the limits of gameplay.
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* The ''[[Donkey Kong]]'' series has Cranky Kong, who was the Donkey Kong from the original arcade games. Unfortunately, while he's older and wiser, he's ''so much so'' that he's more [[Grumpy Old Man]] than anything else.
* Peppy Hare, from ''[[Star Fox (series)|Star Fox]]'', is seen as this, having been part of the original Star Fox Team. He even gives up piloting his arwing after ''Star Fox Adventures''.
* ''[[Soul Series|Soul Calibur]]'' has at least two examples:
** Siegfried changes from an arrogant bandit from a knightly background who unknowingly murders his own father and winds up letting Soul Edge turn him into the next [[Big Bad|Nightmare,]] to a regretful and determined paladin-like figure determined to redeem himself even in the face of horrific crimes and almost certain death.
** Seong Mi-na is the same age as Siegfried, and starts out as a naive and [[Hot-Blooded]] girl. In later installments, Yun-Seong looks up to her as a [[Cool Big Sis]], and her father remarks that she has grown.
 
== [[Web Comics]] ==
 
* Clark from ''[httphttps://wwwweb.archive.org/web/20180114204936/http://shapequest.net/ Shape Quest]'', who complains that they feel he's way too old for adventuring, despite being 35.
== Webcomics ==
* Clark from ''[http://www.shapequest.net Shape Quest]'', who complains that they feel he's way too old for adventuring, despite being 35.
 
 
== [[Web Original]] ==
* Yamauchi-sensei from [[Greek Ninja]].
 
== [[Western Animation]] ==
 
== Western Animation ==
* A now old and retired Bruce Wayne in the futuristic ''[[Batman Beyond]]''.
** Barbara Gordon too, now Comissioner of Gotham, though somewhat resentful of Bruce.
* Egon in ''[[Extreme Ghostbusters]]'' (while his three colleagues made a cameo [[Not as You Know Them]]).
* A rare villainous example is Ravage from ''[[Beast Wars]]''. One of the last surviving original Decepticons from the era of the Cybertronian Wars (a.k.a. [[The Transformers (animation)|the original cartoon]]), he's moved up in the world since we saw him last, and he learned a thing or two from his millenia of war.
** Subverted, however, with Starscream. The one episode he appears (via his spark [[Demonic Possession|stealing Waspinator's body]]), he hasn't changed at all.
** Also, the [[Time Skip]] between the original 'toon and movie has Spike going from [[Tagalong Kid]] to adult who has a son who's the new [[Tagalong Kid]].
* In the ''[[Futurama]]'' film ''Bender's Big Score'', {{spoiler|Lars Fillmore is an older and more mature version of Fry who managed to get sent to the past and had his features accidentally changed to become near-unrecognizable.}}
* [[Porky Pig]] was a child in [[The Golden Age| the earliest]] of ''[[Looney Tunes]]'' shorts, and as such he was a naive and awkward kid, his stuttering far more painful sounding and annoying.<ref>This is even worse when you discover his voice was being done by a man named [https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Joe_Dougherty Joe Dougherty], who had an ''actual'' speech impediment. Watch the cartoons knowing ''that'', and you really feel sorry for poor Joe.</ref> It wasn't until around 1937 that he started to be portrayed as an adult, the stuttering became funny, and he became the [[Only Sane Man|Only Sane Toon]] (more or less) among the LT cast.
 
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