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* In ''Book of the Dead'', a book for the ''[[New World of Darkness]]'' (mostly ''[[Geist: The Sin Eaters]]'' and ''[[Mage: The Awakening]]''), all the underworld realms presented are designed so the gamemaster can play them this way. It's outright encouraged in general, and one of the realms is designed so it's hard to NOT play it this way. This realm is called Oppia, and is a place of abundant soul-energy in the form of delicious food. The rulers are very generous and hospitable, and their rules seem simple enough. Sure the system runs on enslavement of souls, but those idiots are bad guests who broke the rules. Seems easy enough to accept... until you realize how ''very'' easy it actually is to break the rules. Including by accident.
* In ''Book of the Dead'', a book for the ''[[New World of Darkness]]'' (mostly ''[[Geist: The Sin Eaters]]'' and ''[[Mage: The Awakening]]''), all the underworld realms presented are designed so the gamemaster can play them this way. It's outright encouraged in general, and one of the realms is designed so it's hard to NOT play it this way. This realm is called Oppia, and is a place of abundant soul-energy in the form of delicious food. The rulers are very generous and hospitable, and their rules seem simple enough. Sure the system runs on enslavement of souls, but those idiots are bad guests who broke the rules. Seems easy enough to accept... until you realize how ''very'' easy it actually is to break the rules. Including by accident.
* In ''[[Dungeons and Dragons]]'', this is a common ploy of the [[Lawful Evil]] alignment, inviting people to join a system that benefit the strong at the expense of the weak. The regular adherent is an [[Asshole Victim]] who overestimated his strength and is really unhappy with finding himself as one of the despised and exploited weaklings.
* In ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'', this is a common ploy of the [[Lawful Evil]] alignment, inviting people to join a system that benefit the strong at the expense of the weak. The regular adherent is an [[Asshole Victim]] who overestimated his strength and is really unhappy with finding himself as one of the despised and exploited weaklings.
** It's mentioned in ''Fiendish Codex II'' that this is why Lawful Evil characters often make deals with devils - they expect to swiftly take positions of power and prestige in the diabolic hierarchy after their deaths. "No tyrant looks upon a wretched lemure and thinks that this will be their afterlife."
** It's mentioned in ''Fiendish Codex II'' that this is why Lawful Evil characters often make deals with devils - they expect to swiftly take positions of power and prestige in the diabolic hierarchy after their deaths. "No tyrant looks upon a wretched lemure and thinks that this will be their afterlife."
* In the [[Mutant Chronicles]] book ''Ilian'', there are two short-stories on this theme. Humans who joined [[Religion of Evil|the cult of Ilian]] because they wanted to become the exploiters rather then the exploited. And of course, their futures are ''so'' bright, since Ilian will smile upon them forever... until they fail or get backstabbed by each other, that is. Suckers.
* In the [[Mutant Chronicles]] book ''Ilian'', there are two short-stories on this theme. Humans who joined [[Religion of Evil|the cult of Ilian]] because they wanted to become the exploiters rather then the exploited. And of course, their futures are ''so'' bright, since Ilian will smile upon them forever... until they fail or get backstabbed by each other, that is. Suckers.
* ''[[Warhammer 40000|Warhammer 40,000]]'' and ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]s'': Many people who join Chaos cults do so in the hopes of attracting their chosen god's favor. Unfortunately for them, said gods are just as likely to ignore them, give them what they want or subject them to horrible (or benign) mutations.
* ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' and ''[[Warhammer Fantasy Battle]]s'': Many people who join Chaos cults do so in the hopes of attracting their chosen god's favor. Unfortunately for them, said gods are just as likely to ignore them, give them what they want or subject them to horrible (or benign) mutations.


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