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== Comic Strips ==
== Comic Strips ==
* Back in the sixties, Mort Walker was told he wasn't allowed to show bellybuttons in ''[[Hi and Lois (Comic Strip)|Hi and Lois]]''. He protested by featuring a box of navel oranges.
* Back in the sixties, Mort Walker was told he wasn't allowed to show bellybuttons in ''[[Hi and Lois]]''. He protested by featuring a box of navel oranges.
** The same story is told about ''[[Beetle Bailey (Comic Strip)|Beetle Bailey]]'', also by Mort Walker.
** The same story is told about ''[[Beetle Bailey]]'', also by Mort Walker.




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== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* In ''[[The Night Angel Trilogy]]'', Sethi consider showing ankles to be obscene but have no problem showing breasts. In fact, Sethi wedding dresses are almost more like wedding skirts from the description. Sethi who spend too long living away from home often have trouble readjusting their standards of modesty.
* In ''[[The Night Angel Trilogy]]'', Sethi consider showing ankles to be obscene but have no problem showing breasts. In fact, Sethi wedding dresses are almost more like wedding skirts from the description. Sethi who spend too long living away from home often have trouble readjusting their standards of modesty.
* The cultures based on the Vorin religion in ''[[The Stormlight Archive (Literature)|The Stormlight Archive]]'' consider a woman with her left hand bare to be provocative. Commoner women wear a glove to cover it while noblewomen wear dresses with left sleeves that cover the entire arm and hand and button shut.
* The cultures based on the Vorin religion in ''[[The Stormlight Archive]]'' consider a woman with her left hand bare to be provocative. Commoner women wear a glove to cover it while noblewomen wear dresses with left sleeves that cover the entire arm and hand and button shut.
* At one point in the ''[[Belgariad]]'' the fanatic zealot Relg rants about how Ulgo women try to entice him by showing their calves and forearms. (Or at least He thinks so).
* At one point in the ''[[Belgariad]]'' the fanatic zealot Relg rants about how Ulgo women try to entice him by showing their calves and forearms. (Or at least He thinks so).
** Relg's idea of modesty isn't different so much as it is extreme. Ulgos have the same standards of modesty as the rest of the setting, and are already quite modest by that standard (no doubt assisted in this by living in caves, which are probably quite cold). That's just not enough for Relg.
** Relg's idea of modesty isn't different so much as it is extreme. Ulgos have the same standards of modesty as the rest of the setting, and are already quite modest by that standard (no doubt assisted in this by living in caves, which are probably quite cold). That's just not enough for Relg.
* The classic SF story ''The Wheels of If'' has a scene on an alternate Earth where belly buttons are considered obscene...but nothing else is, resulting in [[Barely-There Swimwear]] of an unusual sort.
* The classic SF story ''The Wheels of If'' has a scene on an alternate Earth where belly buttons are considered obscene...but nothing else is, resulting in [[Barely-There Swimwear]] of an unusual sort.
* ''[[Discworld (Literature)|Discworld]]'':
* ''[[Discworld]]'':
** In ''[[Discworld (Literature)/The Last Hero|The Last Hero]]'', we're told there is a religion in Ankh-Morpork which prohibits women from showing their ears, lest they inflame the passions of men.
** In ''[[Discworld/The Last Hero|The Last Hero]]'', we're told there is a religion in Ankh-Morpork which prohibits women from showing their ears, lest they inflame the passions of men.
** In ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Unseen Academicals|Unseen Academicals]]'', the wizards are adamant they can't wear shorts that expose their knees, for fear of the effect this might have on women. The one woman who hears this has trouble keeping a straight face.
** In ''[[Discworld/Unseen Academicals|Unseen Academicals]]'', the wizards are adamant they can't wear shorts that expose their knees, for fear of the effect this might have on women. The one woman who hears this has trouble keeping a straight face.
** This prudishness seems to be entirely confined to the presence of women, however -- in ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Night Watch|Night Watch]]'', the Archchancellor is completely oblivious as to why another wizard thinks he's "inappropriately dressed" after hurriedly getting out of the bath -- he's wearing his [[Robe and Wizard Hat|hat]], after all, and that's what matters.
** This prudishness seems to be entirely confined to the presence of women, however -- in ''[[Discworld/Night Watch|Night Watch]]'', the Archchancellor is completely oblivious as to why another wizard thinks he's "inappropriately dressed" after hurriedly getting out of the bath -- he's wearing his [[Robe and Wizard Hat|hat]], after all, and that's what matters.
** In ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Making Money|Making Money]]'', the University's golem-expert is titillated by the prospect of relocating to a place where he'll actually be able to see women's ankles. Presumably it's lucky that he's already a ghost, else he'd have keeled over with heart failure upon actually entering the Pink Pussycat Club....
** In ''[[Discworld/Making Money|Making Money]]'', the University's golem-expert is titillated by the prospect of relocating to a place where he'll actually be able to see women's ankles. Presumably it's lucky that he's already a ghost, else he'd have keeled over with heart failure upon actually entering the Pink Pussycat Club....
** Trolls consider near-nudity to be the norm; it's when a troll woman starts putting clothes ''on'' that she's singled out as provocatively-dressed. Troll "robers" from the Strippers' Guild actually put on layer after layer of clothing during their acts.
** Trolls consider near-nudity to be the norm; it's when a troll woman starts putting clothes ''on'' that she's singled out as provocatively-dressed. Troll "robers" from the Strippers' Guild actually put on layer after layer of clothing during their acts.
* In one of AP Herbert's ''More Misleading Cases in the Common Law'', when a man is charged with indecency for entering the sea wearing the "wrong" sort of swimsuit, a judge goes into a bit of a rant about this, contrasting the 19th century definition of "indecency" used by the municipal council with a more liberal 1920s definition:
* In one of AP Herbert's ''More Misleading Cases in the Common Law'', when a man is charged with indecency for entering the sea wearing the "wrong" sort of swimsuit, a judge goes into a bit of a rant about this, contrasting the 19th century definition of "indecency" used by the municipal council with a more liberal 1920s definition:
{{quote| '''Mr Justice Wool:''' Stuff and nonsense, constable! The male torso is not indecent. If it is hairy it may be unattractive: but so is the male foot. So is your face; but the Council cannot compel you to drape it. A lady's back is not indecent: it may be attractive, but so are a lady's eyes. The act says "indecency" not "allure". My father wore nothing but drawers. So did I. }}
{{quote| '''Mr Justice Wool:''' Stuff and nonsense, constable! The male torso is not indecent. If it is hairy it may be unattractive: but so is the male foot. So is your face; but the Council cannot compel you to drape it. A lady's back is not indecent: it may be attractive, but so are a lady's eyes. The act says "indecency" not "allure". My father wore nothing but drawers. So did I. }}
* In [[Jack Vance (Creator)|Jack Vance]]'s short story "The Moon Moth", everybody keeps their faces covered at all times by stylized masks that show the wearer's current social standing. Not even spouses ever see each other's naked faces.
* In [[Jack Vance]]'s short story "The Moon Moth", everybody keeps their faces covered at all times by stylized masks that show the wearer's current social standing. Not even spouses ever see each other's naked faces.
* Played for [[Deliberate Values Dissonance]] in ''[[The Poisonwood Bible]]''. Kilanga women hide their legs under long skirts and think nothing of going topless. Missionary Nathan Price is shocked by their indecency; the Kilanga are similarly shocked by Mrs. Price wearing ''pants''.
* Played for [[Deliberate Values Dissonance]] in ''[[The Poisonwood Bible]]''. Kilanga women hide their legs under long skirts and think nothing of going topless. Missionary Nathan Price is shocked by their indecency; the Kilanga are similarly shocked by Mrs. Price wearing ''pants''.
* In [[Stephen King]]'s ''[[The Stand]]'', 108-year-old Abagail Freemantle remembers appearing on a talent show back in 1902. Before her, a woman performed a "racy French dance", showing her ankles.
* In [[Stephen King]]'s ''[[The Stand]]'', 108-year-old Abagail Freemantle remembers appearing on a talent show back in 1902. Before her, a woman performed a "racy French dance", showing her ankles.
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== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* In ''[[Fire Emblem the Sacred Stones (Video Game)|Fire Emblem the Sacred Stones]]'' the [http://www.serenesforest.net/fe8/support/011.html L'Arachel/Ephraim support conversations] have L'Arachel [[Large Ham|panic]] at the sight of Ephraim's bare shoulder (which he exposed so she could heal an injury to it). [[Hypocritical Humor|It should be noted that L'Arachel's own shoulders are constantly exposed]].
* In ''[[Fire Emblem the Sacred Stones]]'' the [http://www.serenesforest.net/fe8/support/011.html L'Arachel/Ephraim support conversations] have L'Arachel [[Large Ham|panic]] at the sight of Ephraim's bare shoulder (which he exposed so she could heal an injury to it). [[Hypocritical Humor|It should be noted that L'Arachel's own shoulders are constantly exposed]].




== Web Comics ==
== Web Comics ==
* In ''[[Drow Tales]]'', drow usually wear high collars so that it became [[Fanon]] that they view the neck as a private part. Confirmed as [[Ascended Fanon]] at the bottom of [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=395 this page]. However it's [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=5576 apparently] not [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=7901 strictly enforced].
* In ''[[Drowtales]]'', drow usually wear high collars so that it became [[Fanon]] that they view the neck as a private part. Confirmed as [[Ascended Fanon]] at the bottom of [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=395 this page]. However it's [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=5576 apparently] not [http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=7901 strictly enforced].
* In Humon's ''[[Love and Tentacles]]'', Frida is embarrassed to discover she's been [http://humoncomics.com/visit-from-mother waving her smaller tentacles around] in front of Tom's mother.
* In Humon's ''[[Love and Tentacles]]'', Frida is embarrassed to discover she's been [http://humoncomics.com/visit-from-mother waving her smaller tentacles around] in front of Tom's mother.
* Bastin from ''[[Two Kinds]]'' always hide their feet, wrapping them from ther ball of their toes to their ankles. [[Word of God]] is [[Conveniently-Common Kink|they have a species wide foot fetish]], and thus consider bare feet nudity. Alaric's statue of Keith has ''only'' the feet covered.
* Bastin from ''[[Two Kinds]]'' always hide their feet, wrapping them from ther ball of their toes to their ankles. [[Word of God]] is [[Conveniently-Common Kink|they have a species wide foot fetish]], and thus consider bare feet nudity. Alaric's statue of Keith has ''only'' the feet covered.
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* [http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/08/23/funny-pictures-history-dat-ankle/ This captioned picture] plays with an internet meme.
* [http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/08/23/funny-pictures-history-dat-ankle/ This captioned picture] plays with an internet meme.
* The [[College Humor]] page on "If the Internet Always Existed" has bare ankles on the 1900 version of [[Red Tube]]
* The [[College Humor]] page on "If the Internet Always Existed" has bare ankles on the 1900 version of [[Red Tube]]
* In [[The Nostalgia Chick (Web Video)|The Nostalgia Chick]]'s review of ''[[Kate and Leopold]]'', she lists "can't show your ankles" as one of the problems with Leopold's time period.
* In [[The Nostalgia Chick]]'s review of ''[[Kate and Leopold]]'', she lists "can't show your ankles" as one of the problems with Leopold's time period.




== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* ''[[The Simpsons (Animation)|The Simpsons]]''
* ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]''
** Skinner is horrified when his mother goes on a date in an outfit that reveals her... ''figure''.
** Skinner is horrified when his mother goes on a date in an outfit that reveals her... ''figure''.
** There's also an episode set in the 1800s, where the buy-your-photo section of a log flume ride has to deal with a shot of a lady "flashing her private parts". It's her ankle, and the man running the shop claims he'll take care of it before shiftily stowing it in his pocket as if it were porn.
** There's also an episode set in the 1800s, where the buy-your-photo section of a log flume ride has to deal with a shot of a lady "flashing her private parts". It's her ankle, and the man running the shop claims he'll take care of it before shiftily stowing it in his pocket as if it were porn.
* In one episode of ''[[American Dad (Animation)|American Dad]]'', Stan sets up a deal with Ikea to refurnish all of [[No Woman's Land|Iraq]] so it looks like "your first apartment". This cues a [[Cutaway Gag]] of a citizen appreciating how his new home looks, before being appalled at his wife's blatant display of nudity and telling her to put some clothes on. She's fully clothed except for her eyes so she covers up her eyes and immediately trips over a table.
* In one episode of ''[[American Dad]]'', Stan sets up a deal with Ikea to refurnish all of [[No Woman's Land|Iraq]] so it looks like "your first apartment". This cues a [[Cutaway Gag]] of a citizen appreciating how his new home looks, before being appalled at his wife's blatant display of nudity and telling her to put some clothes on. She's fully clothed except for her eyes so she covers up her eyes and immediately trips over a table.
* On ''[[The Muppet Show]],'' Kermit is considered indecently naked when he loses his collar.
* On ''[[The Muppet Show]],'' Kermit is considered indecently naked when he loses his collar.


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* The Mormons' idea of dressing modestly is that which will cover their temple garments, which are basically a white T-shirt and white shorts with special symbols embroidered on them. Showing any part of their temple garments in public (especially to a non-Mormon) is considered a taboo in the LDS Church. So any strapless or tank tops are automatically out, as well as anything too short to cover the bottom part.
* The Mormons' idea of dressing modestly is that which will cover their temple garments, which are basically a white T-shirt and white shorts with special symbols embroidered on them. Showing any part of their temple garments in public (especially to a non-Mormon) is considered a taboo in the LDS Church. So any strapless or tank tops are automatically out, as well as anything too short to cover the bottom part.
* Ancient Minoan artwork depicts women walking around in outfits that cover their legs, but leave their breasts exposed.
* Ancient Minoan artwork depicts women walking around in outfits that cover their legs, but leave their breasts exposed.
* Men of the Kapauku tribes of Papua New Guinea often wear nothing but penis-shafts, which will [[Exactly What It Says On the Tin|cover the penis]] but leave the testicles exposed.
* Men of the Kapauku tribes of Papua New Guinea often wear nothing but penis-shafts, which will [[Exactly What It Says on the Tin|cover the penis]] but leave the testicles exposed.


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