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** Most scholarships are for tuition only. It's also possible (given how early it was in the school year) that Haruhi simply hadn't had a chance to get a uniform, since it's implied that they are individually tailored and likely only available at the school itself.

 

* ''The Simpsons'' has a family household and the neighborhood around it as the show's setting, not a high school with a club that basically advocates female pleasures.

** I'd hardly call [[Twincest|Hikaru and Kaoru's act]] a "mildly suggestive thing".

** Still hardly deserving of TV-14, especially considering it is an act. I suppose they'd rather just overrate it than deal with the trouble of accusation of an underrating, since most of their audience doesn't really care about those.

 

== I know Haruhi is supposed to be some combination of [[The Stoic]], a [[Deadpan Snarker]], and [[The Snark Knight]], but it went too far in chapter seven of the manga. The Zuka Club used her just so they could humiliate her friends and her father (which they didn't know about but still did anyway) and record the entire thing, and she didn't care at all. I mean, get pissed, look indignant, throw a punch, something. Most people don't like being used to embarrass their friends and family. ==

** They were probably too upset that their idol was actually going to kiss someone this time.

** Haruhi does get angry at Benibara in the Anime. The episode ends before they escape because it's funnier that way.

** It wasn't just the sweater though. She was wearing thick glasses, looked generally disheveled, her hair was unkempt and cut short, and - no doubt thanks to her [[Wholesome Crossdresser|father]] - didn't exactly act or talk like girls normally do. Besides, aside from [[Idiot Hero|Tamaki]] the club members did caught on quickly about her true gender.

*** Haruhi got bubblegum in her hair and the haircut was an emergency (and probably self-inflicted) solution. (that's canon) The glasses were another emergency solution after she lost a contact on the first day of school (also canon) As for the sweater... Maybe it was laundry day? Haruhi is the only one without a maid, remember, and she probably has to do all of her washing at a Laundromat, too.

** But Haruhi never did pretend to be a boy... the subject simply never came up, and they never addressed her with gender-specific pronouns. And it doesn't appear that Haruhi likes dressing as a boy so much as she doesn't particularly care either way; gender-neutral is as close as she comes to dressing as a boy on the weekends and the only clothes she ever complains about - male or female - are the high heels she wears in Episode 2. She even wears the St. Lobelia uniform without complaint or hesitation. I think her true intent is challenging the Host Club's preconceived notions about gender and their "Beauty is Everything" beliefs with her "It's what's inside you that counts" philosophy.

* You have to remember that she wasn't crossdressing on purpose- she just wore what she felt like and didn't care how it looked. And she was only there to work for them and pay for the vase; they hadn't planned on making her a club member until they saw how [[She Cleans Up Nicely|nicely she cleans up.]] They eventually just made her host without everybody realizing she was a girl, then when they figured it out, they just didn't get rid of her. It's really less "Dress as a man so you can work for us" and more "Work for us to pay off your debt- oh, you're a girl? Well you still need to pay off the debt."

 

* This troper always thought the "Which One's Hikaru Game" was just something the twins would do now and then because they were bored. No one was ever supposed to win. That's why they were so affected when they found out Haruhi could tell them apart.

* It's not so much the getting it right as it is the knowing there's a difference. The twins lie when Haruhi guesses correctly, which is probably what they always do. Haruhi is the only person who calls them on the lie by pointing out how she knew. Everyone else just accepts being wrong.

** It's [[This Troper]]'s opinion that it's very possible to tell on repeat viewings - Hikaru tends to speak first and be slightly more bold, while Kaoru tends to be the one immediately agreeing - but if that's the case, then in at least a third of the shown cases, they boldly lie about which is which.

** [[Word of God]]: Hikaru stands on the right because he usually talks first (and so that their hair is like a set of pulled curtains, but they change their hairstyles back and forth so that doesn't help any), which goes with Hikaru being the bold one and Kaoru being the cunning one. This difference is most easily seen in a scene about nine or ten volumes into the series, where Hikaru goes up to Haruhi and asks about something, and Kaoru (off ahead and to the side, close enough to hear but far enough not to be included) realizes that Haruhi was lying to protect the Hitachiin brothers' feelings. (For some reason, I can still identify them most easily at least 80% of the time or more, not including instances where they were not identified by name in the scene, by reading a couple of their speech bubbles and making an intuitive guess instead of trying to remember whose hair is combed which way today or who is wearing which shirt. Maybe Tamaki's method of winning "Which One's Hikaru" really does work once you get to know the two characters?)

*** In the Anime, you can tell by listening carefully to their voices. One is slightly higher/lower than the other.

 

== If Haruhi's gender was exposed, would all their customers demand their money back for the books and things? Would she be run out of town on a rail? ==

** At the end of the manga, everyone discovers. The customers decide that next time they see Haruhi, they would ask her about crossdressing; they weren't really angry, just surprised.

 

* This Troper assumed that he knew because he saw her application to get in. The scholarship does come from him (or at least his family) after all. The episode "Haruhi in Wonderland", while it is a dream, does imply that Tamaki's dad had met both her and her father back when she had long hair.

 

== Isn't Fuyumi upset at all about being passed by her father? It's not unheard of in the Ouran-verse to a have a matriarch e.g. Tamaki's grandma. ==

* Perhaps she does know, but is [[Genre Savvy]] enough to know that [[The Reveal]] must come very early or at the very end. By the time Renge arrives, the opportunity for an early reveal has already past. Revealing it before the end would just cause the story to [[Jump the Shark]], and Renge is having far too much fun to end things now.

 

* I get the feeling it was meant as [[Fan Service]].

* I wear my glasses in the shower, because I've had them for six years and wouldn't be able to find the shampoo otherwise. Sure, Eclair's opera glass is stupid and inefficient, but she might need it. Just because we see her not wearing them at one point in the finale doesn't mean she can see without.

 

== What's with the new school uniforms they tried to introduce? ==

** She was just cosplaying.

*** Are you sure? Because I could have sworn I remember her saying something about it being the new girls' uniform for Ouran when she was talking.

 

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