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**** {{spoiler|May be a tiny bit [[Wild Mass Guessing]], but although we do know that her door was guarded, the guard may have either gone by the time Ofelia exited, or he went to take a look at the commotion down at in the courtyard (the two survivors of a patrol had made it back to their HQ at the mill). Now, if it was really fully locked is another thought. Just because Vidal ordered the door to be locked, it doesn't mean that the guard actually did it [[The Guards Must Be Crazy|(he may not have found it necessary)]]. Either that or Vidal actually only bluffed. In fact, as Vidal catches Ofelia with her baby brother in his study, he does not seem very confused why she isn't locked in her room. [[Unusually Uninteresting Sight|He looks rather annoyed, in fact]]. Anyway, as Ofelia, her brother and Capitano Vidal escape the mill, the Guerillas (led by Mercedes) [[You Are Too Late|are seen entering Ofelia's bedroom, only to find it abandoned]]. Although the audience can catch a glimpse of Mercedes pushing open the door, one cannot define, whether it has been locked or not. It probably wasn't, or else the Guerrillas would have had to kick it in.}} --Jeezer
**** {{spoiler|May be a tiny bit [[Wild Mass Guessing]], but although we do know that her door was guarded, the guard may have either gone by the time Ofelia exited, or he went to take a look at the commotion down at in the courtyard (the two survivors of a patrol had made it back to their HQ at the mill). Now, if it was really fully locked is another thought. Just because Vidal ordered the door to be locked, it doesn't mean that the guard actually did it [[The Guards Must Be Crazy|(he may not have found it necessary)]]. Either that or Vidal actually only bluffed. In fact, as Vidal catches Ofelia with her baby brother in his study, he does not seem very confused why she isn't locked in her room. [[Unusually Uninteresting Sight|He looks rather annoyed, in fact]]. Anyway, as Ofelia, her brother and Capitano Vidal escape the mill, the Guerillas (led by Mercedes) [[You Are Too Late|are seen entering Ofelia's bedroom, only to find it abandoned]]. Although the audience can catch a glimpse of Mercedes pushing open the door, one cannot define, whether it has been locked or not. It probably wasn't, or else the Guerrillas would have had to kick it in.}} --Jeezer
** I realised after a few viewings that it's even more brilliant, because there's a third kind of ending - that the faun and everything had been real, but he wasn't lying about abandoning her, and only the ending was a hallucination. Which opens up a whole new subtext to the rest of the movie. Her kingdom is called The Underworld, she has to sacrifice a baby to get in, refusing to do so makes her unworthy to get in, and frankly, that faun just isn't a very convincing good guy. Hell much? -Whatever
** I realised after a few viewings that it's even more brilliant, because there's a third kind of ending - that the faun and everything had been real, but he wasn't lying about abandoning her, and only the ending was a hallucination. Which opens up a whole new subtext to the rest of the movie. Her kingdom is called The Underworld, she has to sacrifice a baby to get in, refusing to do so makes her unworthy to get in, and frankly, that faun just isn't a very convincing good guy. Hell much? -Whatever
*** Yes, God forbid any folklore have a conception of the Underworld that isn't [[Hijacked By Jesus]]. Sorry, but that trope really [[It Just Bugs Me|annoys me]].
*** Yes, God forbid any folklore have a conception of the Underworld that isn't [[Hijacked by Jesus]]. Sorry, but that trope really [[It Just Bugs Me|annoys me]].
** Regardless of whether or not {{spoiler|she actually reaches the Underworld when she dies}}, the very nature of it is dubiously "good." It took me a day to remember the actual description of the Underworld, which is a world with neither pain nor sunshine. The reason the princess left in the first place was to be able to know joy, which also led to suffering. What made it brilliant was that the traditional moral of these things is "you must know suffering to know joy," therefore, the chaotic world is the better alternative. However, here Ofelia is {{spoiler|desperate to return to the unchanging, safe world. This is also the brilliance of the movie, because the way the [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|traditional moral is reversed]] serves to augment the fact that the heroes of this story are the communist rebels}}.
** Regardless of whether or not {{spoiler|she actually reaches the Underworld when she dies}}, the very nature of it is dubiously "good." It took me a day to remember the actual description of the Underworld, which is a world with neither pain nor sunshine. The reason the princess left in the first place was to be able to know joy, which also led to suffering. What made it brilliant was that the traditional moral of these things is "you must know suffering to know joy," therefore, the chaotic world is the better alternative. However, here Ofelia is {{spoiler|desperate to return to the unchanging, safe world. This is also the brilliance of the movie, because the way the [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop|traditional moral is reversed]] serves to augment the fact that the heroes of this story are the communist rebels}}.
*** Saywhat? Only if you believe that {{spoiler|communism is about grey jumpsuits and nothing much changing, which would have been a surprise to the anti-Stalinist Trotskyist movement. The communists and anarchists of the Spanish Civil War, who decked out the streets with flags and partied like it was 1999 after the Revolution, might be a bit surprised by this.}}
*** Saywhat? Only if you believe that {{spoiler|communism is about grey jumpsuits and nothing much changing, which would have been a surprise to the anti-Stalinist Trotskyist movement. The communists and anarchists of the Spanish Civil War, who decked out the streets with flags and partied like it was 1999 after the Revolution, might be a bit surprised by this.}}
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* Just what would [[Complete Monster|Vidal]] have done if his child had turned out to be a girl?
* Just what would [[Complete Monster|Vidal]] have done if his child had turned out to be a girl?


For [[Fridge Logic]] entries, see [[Pans Labyrinth (Film)/Headscratchers|Pans Labyrinth]].
For [[Fridge Logic]] entries, see [[Pan's Labyrinth/Headscratchers|Pans Labyrinth]].


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