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** The magnetic charisma Teddie has in human form that the sparkles represent, however, is ''very much'' worth considering. Teddie shows in several optional scenes that he can manage people as easy as Louis ever could.
** The magnetic charisma Teddie has in human form that the sparkles represent, however, is ''very much'' worth considering. Teddie shows in several optional scenes that he can manage people as easy as Louis ever could.
* There's another bit to consider about his appearance in the real world: ''the fact that he can do so at all''. The only time the overwhelming majority of Shadows can leave the "Abyss" is due to some kind of dimensional event like the Dark Hour or the December [[Nonstandard Game Over]] {{spoiler|in which Izanami's plan is pulled off and the fog grows thick enough to allow Shadows to manifest in the real world}}; otherwise, they're stuck on the other side. We've only ever seen two other "Shadow" beings who can manifest in the "regular" world, those being {{spoiler|Ryoji "Nyx Avatar" Mochizuki}} and {{spoiler|Izanami as a Gas Station Attendant}}, and even then the latter {{spoiler|seems to have a restriction in which she can only manifest during rain or fog}}. That is to say, the only two other beings who can manifest in the real world {{spoiler|''are [[Go Mad From the Revelation|skull-crackingly]], unthinkably powerful'' '''''[[Eldritch Abomination|death gods]]'''''}}. This would seem to suggest that Teddie is ''quite a bit'' more powerful than he really lets on, since he can casually live in the real world with ''even less restriction'' than the other two...
* There's another bit to consider about his appearance in the real world: ''the fact that he can do so at all''. The only time the overwhelming majority of Shadows can leave the "Abyss" is due to some kind of dimensional event like the Dark Hour or the December [[Nonstandard Game Over]] {{spoiler|in which Izanami's plan is pulled off and the fog grows thick enough to allow Shadows to manifest in the real world}}; otherwise, they're stuck on the other side. We've only ever seen two other "Shadow" beings who can manifest in the "regular" world, those being {{spoiler|Ryoji "Nyx Avatar" Mochizuki}} and {{spoiler|Izanami as a Gas Station Attendant}}, and even then the latter {{spoiler|seems to have a restriction in which she can only manifest during rain or fog}}. That is to say, the only two other beings who can manifest in the real world {{spoiler|''are [[Go Mad From the Revelation|skull-crackingly]], unthinkably powerful'' '''''[[Eldritch Abomination|death gods]]'''''}}. This would seem to suggest that Teddie is ''quite a bit'' more powerful than he really lets on, since he can casually live in the real world with ''even less restriction'' than the other two...
* Then there's the fact that he's the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_(Tarot_card) Star]'' Arcana, which can represent hope for the future (which, fundamentally, is what Lucifer is all about in the original SMT games). And, of course, what Persona do you get access to when Star maxes out in P4? Angel-form Lucifer, of course.
* Then there's the fact that he's the ''[[wikipedia:The Star (Tarot card)|Star]]'' Arcana, which can represent hope for the future (which, fundamentally, is what Lucifer is all about in the original SMT games). And, of course, what Persona do you get access to when Star maxes out in P4? Angel-form Lucifer, of course.
* And then there's the whole "I think I was a special being" segment in October; while Teddie remains vague about it, he's really convinced that he was a little more than just joe average Shadow. Once you find out what he "really" is in December, he seems to evade references back to this (and seems to become oddly evasive about his "true nature" in general).
* And then there's the whole "I think I was a special being" segment in October; while Teddie remains vague about it, he's really convinced that he was a little more than just joe average Shadow. Once you find out what he "really" is in December, he seems to evade references back to this (and seems to become oddly evasive about his "true nature" in general).
** Teddie is even mentioned as possibly being '''like a "King"''' in the TV World, primarily by Nanako; most people find this funny, but the game sure makes a big deal of the concept for being a throwaway joke...
** Teddie is even mentioned as possibly being '''like a "King"''' in the TV World, primarily by Nanako; most people find this funny, but the game sure makes a big deal of the concept for being a throwaway joke...
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Seems natural to me since they're both of the Justice Arcana. He'd appear on the second day with the team walking past a guy laying a flower in front of the old dorm. Curious, one of the group goes up and talks to him. S/he would get Ken to show them around town. (My theory is Rise but that's mostly for the [[Actor Allusion]] that would be with the English VA's) During the process, they will get vague hints about his past with Persona, about how his life was once driven with revenge (with foreshadowing towards the future incident with Nanako) and how his friends and a girl he knew saved him from himself. His relationship with the girl will be left vague, for sanity's sake, though he admits to a crush. He may or may not go to club Escpade with the group.
Seems natural to me since they're both of the Justice Arcana. He'd appear on the second day with the team walking past a guy laying a flower in front of the old dorm. Curious, one of the group goes up and talks to him. S/he would get Ken to show them around town. (My theory is Rise but that's mostly for the [[Actor Allusion]] that would be with the English VA's) During the process, they will get vague hints about his past with Persona, about how his life was once driven with revenge (with foreshadowing towards the future incident with Nanako) and how his friends and a girl he knew saved him from himself. His relationship with the girl will be left vague, for sanity's sake, though he admits to a crush. He may or may not go to club Escpade with the group.


== The Shrine Fox is an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inari_%C5%8Ckami Inari] [[Kitsune]] ==
== The Shrine Fox is an [[wikipedia:Inari %C5%8Ckami|Inari]] [[Kitsune]] ==
It feels so obvious that I even hesitate to put it down, but considering her high intelligence and ability to enter the TV world, as well as the fact that one of Persona 4's main motifs is Japanese mythology, I'm surprised I see relatively little mention about it. However, it is possible that she was born just a normal fox, and somehow gained powers by living near the shrine (heck, considering that Koromaru's former owner was a monk, this might also in part explain why everyone's favorite knife-wielding dog was so supernaturally intelligent).
It feels so obvious that I even hesitate to put it down, but considering her high intelligence and ability to enter the TV world, as well as the fact that one of Persona 4's main motifs is Japanese mythology, I'm surprised I see relatively little mention about it. However, it is possible that she was born just a normal fox, and somehow gained powers by living near the shrine (heck, considering that Koromaru's former owner was a monk, this might also in part explain why everyone's favorite knife-wielding dog was so supernaturally intelligent).


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== Alternatively times two, Marie will be the Aeon Social Link in ''The Golden.'' ==
== Alternatively times two, Marie will be the Aeon Social Link in ''The Golden.'' ==
Think about it. Her clothes resemble the denizen's of the Velvet Room, plus she's got a big V on her hat, similar to Theodore. If that's true, then she's also non-human and would have to learn the ways of actual human beings, thus explaining why she's Aeon. (Plus, Aeon was the only one not used in the original, so it makes sense in a meta sort of way.)
Think about it. Her clothes resemble the denizen's of the Velvet Room, plus she's got a big V on her hat, similar to Theodore. If that's true, then she's also non-human and would have to learn the ways of actual human beings, thus explaining why she's Aeon. (Plus, Aeon was the only one not used in the original, so it makes sense in a meta sort of way.)
* [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Persona4 Confirmed]. (Though there's some mistranslation that fans read the kanji of Aeon that was used in ''Persona 3 FES'' as 'Eternal/Eternity' in ''Persona 4: The Golden''. Hence, it's still confirmed that Marie is infact the Aeon Arcana Social Link.)
* [[Persona 4 (Video Game)/Characters|Confirmed]]. (Though there's some mistranslation that fans read the kanji of Aeon that was used in ''Persona 3 FES'' as 'Eternal/Eternity' in ''Persona 4: The Golden''. Hence, it's still confirmed that Marie is infact the Aeon Arcana Social Link.)


== Marie is the daughter of [[Persona|Maki and the Progaonist]] ==
== Marie is the daughter of [[Persona|Maki and the Progaonist]] ==