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* I noticed that most of the Gym leader Japanese names are from plants. Is Satoshi hungry?
** [[Theme Naming]]. Why they chose plants is anyone's guess, but hey.
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** [[User:Pro-Mole]] calls coincidence. Something in the veins of "parallel evolution", the fenomena that created a marsupial version of many non-marsupial creatures in Australia (including the noiw extinct marsupial tiger, actually a stray dog). That, or the people at design didn't know how to make segmented eyes in a different fashion...
** Or guessing by the fact that they're the same type of Pokemon with simular evolutionary lines, they may well be related species.
** They [http://veekun.com/dex-images/yellow/049.png don't] [http://veekun.com/dex-images/yellow/012.png actually] look [http://veekun.com/dex-images/rusa/357.png that]{{Dead link}} [http://veekun.com/dex-images/silver/154.png much] alike. (Pictures taken from the original sprites in each case: Red+ Green, Ruby and Gold.)
*** Dude! [http://veekun.com/dex-images/yellow/048.png Venonats!] Not Venomoths! Look at those eyes and mouth. And not just sprites, but the official art, too.
** Well, if resemblance had to be a guide on evolution, Bellossoms shouldn't evolve from Glooms (do they? They changed so many things that I don't even know anymore), but from Roselias...
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*** To the above troper; I think you're forgetting to put stats and items into consideration. No way in hell a Pichu is going to one-hit kill a Gyarados unless it's severely shifted in the rodent's favor.
*** Pichu's are legally able to learn Volt Tackle (an egg move). And even Thundershock will be absolute murder at x4 damage.
**** I just ran them through [https://web.archive.org/web/20120707184304/http://deathquake.awardspace.com/tools/damcalc.html this] calculator (let's assume Lv100, 31 IVs across the board, no EVs anywhere, neutral nature, no stat alterations, no items, Pichu x1.5 bonus with STAB, no critical hit). Volt Tackle; I'll concede you that for the most part (though Gyarados can still survive in some cases), but good luck trying to get that attack in with the rodent's paltry defenses. Thundershock; stop exaggerating. This isn't going to take off even half; you need Thunderbolt-level power to get a serious chance at a one-hit kill.
**** On top of that, getting a Pichu with Volt Tackle involves getting a Pikachu with a Light Ball, which is kind of a [[Disc One Nuke]] itself.
** Because typing was seriously screwed up in the first game. Things like the number of Grass-types which are also Poison types, a ludicrous 33 poison types out of the 151 original Pokemon, and the complete lack of effective attacks against Psychic-types. Although it is interesting to note that in the first game Dragon and Ghost types are the only ones super-effective against themselves, each of them is only present on one evolutionary line consisting of 3 Pokemon, and neither has any substantive attack moves.
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*** Ignoring the fact that the question was hammered between two others... you make them sit upon it, like a baloon. That, or they stay floating and causing a force field downwards, making the scale accuse a weight. Maybe that's why they weight so little, measurement error.
** You think that's bad? Giratina, the legendary dragon/ghost type pokemon, weighs over ''1600 pounds''. Seriously, if it's solid enough to weigh over half a ton, then it should be solid enough to be affected by normal and fighting type attacks.
*** I liked the "inner black hole" theory someone proposed here before [[The Great Crash]]...
*** And, oh: think about this: one cubic decimeter of water weights 1 kilogram, roughly 2 pounds. It is "solid enough" to weigh all that, but still punching water will not cause it any damage. Just because something weights a lot, it doesn't mean it is ''solid''.
** Ok, maybe I'm not good at judging how much people weigh by looking at them, but how does Gardevoir, with its thin body and thinner legs weigh 106 lbs? Surely its head and "dress" doesn't weight ''that'' much.
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** A friend of this troper suggested Diglett's have a pointy bottom, whilst I assumed they were just flat. [[Noodle Incident|It's probably for the best that we don't know.]]
*** I always figured that it was something like [http://hail-nekoyasha.deviantart.com/art/Biglett-26374938 this.]
*** This Troper prefers [https://web.archive.org/web/20120429202508/http://saladbowl.deviantart.com/art/Dugtrio-Underneath-the-Surface-95213791 this]. Dugtrio, but the principle stands.
*** They have feet. That much is certain.
*** The 3D-Incarnations on occasion show that Diglett has no lower body and ends flat when they're subjected to attacks that launch them into the air.
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****** Thus Double Standard.
******* You said that, but then you said it applies for both sexes. It's not a double standard if the problem is that both sexes should look like we expect them to. There's no double standard, only one standard.
** Oh, actually [[User:Pro-Mole]] had set a question about Loppunies before [[The Great Crash]]. This is some huge mistake by the designers, really, but we can only suppose that, yeah, male Loppunies and female Machokes look exactly like their opposite sex. Urk.
** I'm not sure if Machoke count as mammals, but censoring that would be too hard either way. I don't see how Loppunny doesn't look like it could be male. You can always hope there's a Gallade counterpart, though.
*** But... Machoke and Machamp all wear pants and no shirt... They might look weird with a belt and no pants, but... Well, at least in the official handbook the speedos are flat with no indiciation of the modeling pokemon's gender, but does anyone recall seeing Machoke in the anime?
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** Items and Pokémon both seem to be stored in balls when not in use. (You find the items in the balls already.) For humans to be teleported this way, they would also have to be put in Storage Balls. I assume that this did not make money, and the service was canceled. The banned episode with Porygon and the seizures dealt with another means of teleportation: direct portals to cyberspace. It turned out to be a bad idea, and cyberspace explosions gave people seizures. Team Rocket still technically has the Porygon Zero from that episode, although it was mostly forgotten; it was one of the three PokéBalls that floated away from them in the episode with the Farfetch'd, which happened ''before'' Jessie got Lickitung, despite the dubbers' attempts to cover it up as Lickitung.
*** Pikachu's electric attack was responsible for the seizures; that could very well have happened in any other episode. The idea of human transport was never brought up again, presumably for the same reason Porygon wasn't, which still escapes this troper. Not to mention, all of Dr. Akihabara's (the creator of the project) work was destroyed at the end of the episode, and it would probably take years to do it all over. Judging by the ages of the characters, time just plain doesn't pass in the anime, [[Comic Book Time|but then again...]]
**** Not quite true. It's stated directly when Ash gets back to Viridian something along the lines of "Wow, I can't believe it's already been a year since I was in Viridian last time..." ...Then again. He is, also canonically, still ten years old. ...[[So, Yeah]].
** Possibly, teleporters are too short-ranged/must be directly connected via wires to be efficient other than as a gym puzzle or for navigation through a large building.
* In the RBY (and Fire Red/Leaf Green I suppose) games, you encounter Gary in Silph Co., literally one room away from Giovanni. You needed to have a Card Key to get that far, so why didn't he go and whack the Pokecrap out of Giovanni himself? He even mentions Giovanni after you beat him, so it wasn't like he simply didn't know (unless he's blind and didn't notice the hundreds of Grunts and whimpering employees). Same goes for when you're in Pokemon Tower along with the possessed nuns and Rockets. Does he simply not care?
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** [[Values Dissonance]]. Japan has a history of circumventing gambling laws with machines that take and accept 'tokens' that can be bought with money and exchanged for prizes, I've heard Shigeru Miyamoto himself often plays these machines. Seems Japan has much less of an issue with gambling than the rest of the world.
*** Arcades in the backs of bowling alleys, anyone?
** [https://web.archive.org/web/20100814151734/http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=37831 Evidently Nintendo of Europe has noticed this] , as the European Platinum release disabled using the machines in the game corner. Coins are now found daily on the machines by talking to them. The EU's regulations [http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4725140=1 may or may not be involved].
*** /em takes another look at the local [[Suck E. Cheese's]]. I don't think it's really true values dissonance, just the sort of thing poeple tend to get upset about, even if they don't mind the real version.
*** Ironically you can still BUY coins in the casino at the price 1000 Poké for 50 coins...
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