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* B) is an outsider of the clique or subculture or is an immigrant or [[Funny Foreigner|foreigner]]; |
* B) is an outsider of the clique or subculture or is an immigrant or [[Funny Foreigner|foreigner]]; |
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* C) is old-fashioned and not knowledgeable of current popular culture; |
* C) is old-fashioned and not knowledgeable of current popular culture; |
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* D) is young and [[ |
* D) is young and [[I've Heard of That! What Is It?|the bit of pop culture]] is (relatively) old; |
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* E) is [[In the Original Klingon|amusingly]] [[Aluminum Christmas Trees|displaced]] from the time of origin; |
* E) is [[In the Original Klingon|amusingly]] [[Aluminum Christmas Trees|displaced]] from the time of origin; |
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* F) simply is not familiar with a genre or a work; |
* F) simply is not familiar with a genre or a work; |
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* G) the work itself is [[Fan Myopia|thought to be so popular]] that all who know it think it will be passed on through [[Popcultural Osmosis]] -- with the result that it ''isn't''. |
* G) the work itself is [[Fan Myopia|thought to be so popular]] that all who know it think it will be passed on through [[Popcultural Osmosis]] -- with the result that it ''isn't''. |
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Note that A-F can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know [[Britney Spears (Music)|Britney Spears]] or The [[Backstreet Boys (Music)|Backstreet Boys]] may have fond memories of ''[[I Love Lucy (TV)|I Love Lucy]]'' or [ |
Note that A-F can go both ways (for example, someone too old to know [[Britney Spears (Music)|Britney Spears]] or The [[Backstreet Boys (Music)|Backstreet Boys]] may have fond memories of ''[[I Love Lucy (TV)|I Love Lucy]]'' or [[wikipedia:Hermanchr(27)s Hermits|Herman's Hermits]]), and G is the natural conclusion of [[Popcultural Osmosis]], when even [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"]] is forgotten (along with ''[[The Crying Game]]'' itself) except for the [[Trope Namers|trope name]] itself, rendered a [[Non-Indicative Name]]. |
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This, by the way, is the reason character-named tropes are often renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with original [[Sherlock Holmes]] tales, you won't know who [[Inspector Lestrade]] is; if not well-read in 19th-century French literature (or [[All Musicals Are Adaptations|Broadway musicals]]), [[Inspector Javert]] may be unknown to you. |
This, by the way, is the reason character-named tropes are often renamed. For example, if you're not familiar with original [[Sherlock Holmes]] tales, you won't know who [[Inspector Lestrade]] is; if not well-read in 19th-century French literature (or [[All Musicals Are Adaptations|Broadway musicals]]), [[Inspector Javert]] may be unknown to you. |
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{{quote| '''Mike:''' Pretty soon, we're not gonna be names, just numbers! It's ''[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''!<br /> |
{{quote| '''Mike:''' Pretty soon, we're not gonna be names, just numbers! It's ''[[Nineteen Eighty-Four]]''!<br /> |
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'''Archie:''' Eh, shut up, you don't even know what year is! }} |
'''Archie:''' Eh, shut up, you don't even know what year is! }} |
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* In the ''[[ |
* In the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' episode "The Empty Child", Rose jokingly refers to the Doctor as "Mr. Spock". Jack, who's from the future, doesn't get the reference and assumes it's actually the Doctor's name. |
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* Happens a lot in ''[[Star Trek (Franchise)|Star Trek]]'' due to the various alien races interacting with a mostly human main cast. The largest examples are Data's various failures in ''[[Star Trek the Next Generation (TV)|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'' and Kira being frustrated several times by Sisko's references to baseball and never having heard of Captain Kirk in ''[[Star Trek Deep Space Nine (TV)|Star Trek Deep Space Nine]]''. |
* Happens a lot in ''[[Star Trek (Franchise)|Star Trek]]'' due to the various alien races interacting with a mostly human main cast. The largest examples are Data's various failures in ''[[Star Trek the Next Generation (TV)|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'' and Kira being frustrated several times by Sisko's references to baseball and never having heard of Captain Kirk in ''[[Star Trek Deep Space Nine (TV)|Star Trek Deep Space Nine]]''. |
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* ''[[Stargate SG-1 (TV)|Stargate SG-1]]'' |
* ''[[Stargate SG-1 (TV)|Stargate SG-1]]'' |
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== Web Comics == |
== Web Comics == |
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* ''[[PvP (Webcomic)|Pv P]]'': [[http://www.pvponline.com/2001/10/18/ This strip. [[wikipedia:867-5309/Jenny|Explanation]], in case you don't get it either. |
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* [http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=236 This page] of ''[[Gunnerkrigg Court (Webcomic)|Gunnerkrigg Court]]'', where it indicates that Annie barely knows anything about pop culture because (as we learn elsewhere) she grew up in a hospital. |
* [http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=236 This page] of ''[[Gunnerkrigg Court (Webcomic)|Gunnerkrigg Court]]'', where it indicates that Annie barely knows anything about pop culture because (as we learn elsewhere) she grew up in a hospital. |
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{{quote| '''Kat:''' Welllll, he's not ''perfect!'' I mean, he thinks [[The Prodigy (Music)|The Prodigy]]'s ''Fat of the Land'' is better than ''Music for the Jilted Generation''.<br /> |
{{quote| '''Kat:''' Welllll, he's not ''perfect!'' I mean, he thinks [[The Prodigy (Music)|The Prodigy]]'s ''Fat of the Land'' is better than ''Music for the Jilted Generation''.<br /> |
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== Comic Books == |
== Comic Books == |
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* An example from [[Older Than They Think]] fits here, as a clash of [[Popcultural Osmosis]]: An in-universe example has [[Superboy]] saying to [[Superman]] "Second star to the right and straight on till morning." When Superman says "''[[Peter Pan (Literature)|Peter Pan]]''. How appropriate." Superboy replies "What are you talking about? [[Star Trek (Franchise)|Captain Kirk]] said that," in reference to Kirk's closing line at the end of [[Star Trek VI the Undiscovered Country (Film)|the 6th movie]] where he was clearly quoting ''Peter Pan. |
* An example from [[Older Than They Think]] fits here, as a clash of [[Popcultural Osmosis]]: An in-universe example has [[Superboy]] saying to [[Superman]] "Second star to the right and straight on till morning." When Superman says "''[[Peter Pan (Literature)|Peter Pan]]''. How appropriate." Superboy replies "What are you talking about? [[Star Trek (Franchise)|Captain Kirk]] said that," in reference to Kirk's closing line at the end of [[Star Trek VI the Undiscovered Country (Film)|the 6th movie]] where he was clearly quoting ''Peter Pan. |
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* In a ''[[Robin (Comic Book)|Robin]]'' annual, Huntress tells Robin it was a clever idea of his to wear mirrors under their ponchos (to blind their enemies in a gunfight). He says he got the idea from an old movie. She says "''[[A |
* In a ''[[Robin (Comic Book)|Robin]]'' annual, Huntress tells Robin it was a clever idea of his to wear mirrors under their ponchos (to blind their enemies in a gunfight). He says he got the idea from an old movie. She says "''[[A Fistful of Dollars]]'', huh?" and he replies "No. ''[[Back to The Future (Film)|Back to The Future]] III''. |
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* In ''[[Fanhunter (Comic Book)|Fanhunter]]'', it goes something like this: |
* In ''[[Fanhunter (Comic Book)|Fanhunter]]'', it goes something like this: |
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{{quote| '''John Konstantin:''' I'm still touched by listening to "Fly Me to the Moon".<br /> |
{{quote| '''John Konstantin:''' I'm still touched by listening to "Fly Me to the Moon".<br /> |
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