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As some of the examples show, Icarus seems to be an unusually favored name in this regard (no fewer than ''five'' examples). [[Rule of Cool|Might have something to do with the name having a nice ring to it]]. Oh, yeah, and the melting wings of doom probably help.
As some of the examples show, Icarus seems to be an unusually favored name in this regard (no fewer than ''five'' examples). [[Rule of Cool|Might have something to do with the name having a nice ring to it]]. Oh, yeah, and the melting wings of doom probably help.


See also [[What Did You Expect When You Named It]]?
See also [[What Did You Expect When You Named It?]]?
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== Anime ==
== Anime ==
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** Also, Hikari Yagami of the ''[[Digimon Adventure]]'' continuity. "Hikari" means "light". Guess who gets the [[Light Is Good|Crest of Light]] and gets partnered with an [[Our Angels Are Different|angel Digimon]].
** Also, Hikari Yagami of the ''[[Digimon Adventure]]'' continuity. "Hikari" means "light". Guess who gets the [[Light Is Good|Crest of Light]] and gets partnered with an [[Our Angels Are Different|angel Digimon]].
* One episode of ''[[Dirty Pair (Light Novel)|Dirty Pair]] Flash'' has the girls split up, with airhead Yuri getting a new partner. Her new partner "Lily" has every one of Yuri's flaws (doesn't take work seriously, easy to scare, always worried about her appearance etc.) writ much larger. Naturally, "yuri" can translate as "lily" in Japanese.
* One episode of ''[[Dirty Pair (Light Novel)|Dirty Pair]] Flash'' has the girls split up, with airhead Yuri getting a new partner. Her new partner "Lily" has every one of Yuri's flaws (doesn't take work seriously, easy to scare, always worried about her appearance etc.) writ much larger. Naturally, "yuri" can translate as "lily" in Japanese.
* Rezo, [[The Man Behind the Man]] and [[Well Intentioned Extremist]] of the first season of ''[[The Slayers]]'', is known alternately as the Red Priest or the Blind Priest. This is a very early reference to his unique connection with the Ruby-Eyed Shabranigdo.
* Rezo, [[The Man Behind the Man]] and [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] of the first season of ''[[The Slayers]]'', is known alternately as the Red Priest or the Blind Priest. This is a very early reference to his unique connection with the Ruby-Eyed Shabranigdo.
* Lucia of ''[[Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch]]'' is a [[The Messiah|Messiah]]-type character easily spotted because of her name; in contrast, the last [[Big Bad]] is an angel named Michel, both an allusion to the biblical Michael and a hint that he, like his name, is "off" somehow from the source. Then there's Michal, an [[Ill Girl]] with ''some'' connection to Michel; what it is isn't revealed until the end, but thanks to the name, you catch on quickly that it's there.
* Lucia of ''[[Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch]]'' is a [[The Messiah|Messiah]]-type character easily spotted because of her name; in contrast, the last [[Big Bad]] is an angel named Michel, both an allusion to the biblical Michael and a hint that he, like his name, is "off" somehow from the source. Then there's Michal, an [[Ill Girl]] with ''some'' connection to Michel; what it is isn't revealed until the end, but thanks to the name, you catch on quickly that it's there.
* There are a ton of examples in ''[[Eyeshield 21]]'' of peoples whose names just happen to emphasise their abilities. This list doesn't even cover half the examples:
* There are a ton of examples in ''[[Eyeshield 21]]'' of peoples whose names just happen to emphasise their abilities. This list doesn't even cover half the examples:
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* In [[Gundam 00]], {{spoiler|the main character's (code)name means "A Moment From The Holy Eternity". If one translates it to Japanese except the ''From'', which you will remove the other three letters after ''F'' then it would read as Setsuna F<s>rom</s> Seiei. [[Word of God|The director said]] that it represents the moments of revolutions in the long history of mankind, hinting at Setsuna being the true Innovator, the one who is going to bring revolution to mankind. Appropriately, Setsuna [[Evolutionary Levels|evolves into an Innovator]] during the last few episodes of the series.}}
* In [[Gundam 00]], {{spoiler|the main character's (code)name means "A Moment From The Holy Eternity". If one translates it to Japanese except the ''From'', which you will remove the other three letters after ''F'' then it would read as Setsuna F<s>rom</s> Seiei. [[Word of God|The director said]] that it represents the moments of revolutions in the long history of mankind, hinting at Setsuna being the true Innovator, the one who is going to bring revolution to mankind. Appropriately, Setsuna [[Evolutionary Levels|evolves into an Innovator]] during the last few episodes of the series.}}
* In ''[[Naru Taru]]'', the main character's name can be translated as "a seed that shall never sprout." [[Downer Ending|How appropriate.]]
* In ''[[Naru Taru]]'', the main character's name can be translated as "a seed that shall never sprout." [[Downer Ending|How appropriate.]]
* In ''[[Ergo Proxy]]'', the name Daedalus is originally just prophetic of him being a brilliant scientist and inventor. Towards the end of the show, [[What an Idiot|he gives one of his loved ones wings and they fly towards the sun]].
* In ''[[Ergo Proxy]]'', the name Daedalus is originally just prophetic of him being a brilliant scientist and inventor. Towards the end of the show, [[What an Idiot!|he gives one of his loved ones wings and they fly towards the sun]].
* It definitely overlaps with [[Meaningful Name]], but several members of Mustang's [[The Squad|squad]] in ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' all have pretty badass names (Armstrong, Havoc, Fury, and Hawkeye). Particularly predictive are Armstrong (a [[Genius Bruiser]]) and Hawkeye ([[The Gunslinger]] and an expert sniper).
* It definitely overlaps with [[Meaningful Name]], but several members of Mustang's [[The Squad|squad]] in ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'' all have pretty badass names (Armstrong, Havoc, Fury, and Hawkeye). Particularly predictive are Armstrong (a [[Genius Bruiser]]) and Hawkeye ([[The Gunslinger]] and an expert sniper).
* Bibliophile Yomiko Readman of [[Read or Die (Anime)|Read or Die]] fits this quite well. (Yomiko literally meaning "reading child" and Readman being quite obvious)
* Bibliophile Yomiko Readman of [[Read or Die (Anime)|Read or Die]] fits this quite well. (Yomiko literally meaning "reading child" and Readman being quite obvious)
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* In the [[James Bond]] movie ''Die Another Day'', the name of the orbital mirror system Icarus rather obviously foreshadows the device's final fate.
* In the [[James Bond]] movie ''Die Another Day'', the name of the orbital mirror system Icarus rather obviously foreshadows the device's final fate.
* [[Star Wars]]: "Vader" sounds like [[Fun With Foreign Languages|Dutch]] for [[Luke I Am Your Father|"father"]]. Truly prophetic, considering that George Lucas didn't originally intend Vader to be Luke's father.
* [[Star Wars]]: "Vader" sounds like [[Fun With Foreign Languages|Dutch]] for [[Luke, I Am Your Father|"father"]]. Truly prophetic, considering that George Lucas didn't originally intend Vader to be Luke's father.
** Also, overweight rebel pilot Jek "Piggy" Porkins.
** Also, overweight rebel pilot Jek "Piggy" Porkins.
** From the prequel films, we get <s> drug</s> deathstick dealer Elan ''Sleazebaganno'', later retcon'd into being "Sel'Sabagno". He is, nonetheless, still a sleazebag.
** From the prequel films, we get <s> drug</s> deathstick dealer Elan ''Sleazebaganno'', later retcon'd into being "Sel'Sabagno". He is, nonetheless, still a sleazebag.
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'''Loke Groundrunner:''' Soondead and Gonnabiteit...''oh my God!'' }}
'''Loke Groundrunner:''' Soondead and Gonnabiteit...''oh my God!'' }}
* ''[[Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow]]'' (2004). Totenkopf, literally "dead man's head" (e.g. skull) in German.
* ''[[Sky Captain and The World of Tomorrow]]'' (2004). Totenkopf, literally "dead man's head" (e.g. skull) in German.
* ''[[Sunshine (Film)|Sunshine]]'' featured a ship called the ''Icarus''... which was in charge of a mission that not only involved ''restarting the Sun'' but said mission was ''vital to the Earth's survival''. [[What an Idiot|Even more stupidly]], when the first ship is lost, the second ship (which due to the massive resources involved in the Sun restarting device ''cannot be rebuilt'') was named the ''[[Tempting Fate|Icarus II]]''.
* ''[[Sunshine (Film)|Sunshine]]'' featured a ship called the ''Icarus''... which was in charge of a mission that not only involved ''restarting the Sun'' but said mission was ''vital to the Earth's survival''. [[What an Idiot!|Even more stupidly]], when the first ship is lost, the second ship (which due to the massive resources involved in the Sun restarting device ''cannot be rebuilt'') was named the ''[[Tempting Fate|Icarus II]]''.
** The director [[Danny Boyle]] admitted this was unrealistic, saying that Americans would likely call it ''Ship of Destiny'' or ''Hope''.
** The director [[Danny Boyle]] admitted this was unrealistic, saying that Americans would likely call it ''Ship of Destiny'' or ''Hope''.
* Lampshaded in ''[[Spider Man (Film)|Spider Man]] 2''.
* Lampshaded in ''[[Spider Man (Film)|Spider Man]] 2''.
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** Then there's the interstellar cruise liner named after that "most famous Earth vessel", the ''[[Tempting Fate|Titanic]]''. {{spoiler|Then again, given what the owner plans to do, it was probably his version of a very bad joke.}}
** Then there's the interstellar cruise liner named after that "most famous Earth vessel", the ''[[Tempting Fate|Titanic]]''. {{spoiler|Then again, given what the owner plans to do, it was probably his version of a very bad joke.}}
{{quote| '''The Doctor''': Did anyone tell you ''why'' it was famous?}}
{{quote| '''The Doctor''': Did anyone tell you ''why'' it was famous?}}
* ''[[Babylon Five|Babylon 5]]'' mentions a science ship named the Icarus. The ship gets a bit too daring in its explorations and meets an unfortunate end, [[What Did You Expect When You Named It|to the surprise of absolutely no-one]].
* ''[[Babylon Five|Babylon 5]]'' mentions a science ship named the Icarus. The ship gets a bit too daring in its explorations and meets an unfortunate end, [[What Did You Expect When You Named It?|to the surprise of absolutely no-one]].
** Not the only ship in the series with a prophetic name. Sheridan is introduced as the captain of the ''Agamemnon'', {{spoiler|and meets a fate similar to [[The Oresteia (Theatre)|the Agamemnon of legend]] at the hands of a traitorous wife--although unlike Agamemnon, he came [[Back From the Dead]].}}
** Not the only ship in the series with a prophetic name. Sheridan is introduced as the captain of the ''Agamemnon'', {{spoiler|and meets a fate similar to [[The Oresteia (Theatre)|the Agamemnon of legend]] at the hands of a traitorous wife--although unlike Agamemnon, he came [[Back From the Dead]].}}
* A minor character on ''[[Pushing Daisies]]'' talks about this trope: "Names are destiny. If you think Dwayne Cloggin ain't gonna grow up to be a plumber, then you just think again." Considering that this show also had a dog-breeder named Hundin and a Buddy Amicus running a rent-a-friend agency, she might be on to something.
* A minor character on ''[[Pushing Daisies]]'' talks about this trope: "Names are destiny. If you think Dwayne Cloggin ain't gonna grow up to be a plumber, then you just think again." Considering that this show also had a dog-breeder named Hundin and a Buddy Amicus running a rent-a-friend agency, she might be on to something.
* Invoked by ''[[Seinfeld]]'', when Kramer notes the appropriateness of a library detective called Bookman, and an ice cream man called Cohn (pronounced 'cone').
* Invoked by ''[[Seinfeld]]'', when Kramer notes the appropriateness of a library detective called Bookman, and an ice cream man called Cohn (pronounced 'cone').
* Almost every project or endeavor in the ''[[Stargate]]'' TV shows is named prophetically. For example, ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'''s Prometheus brought the power of the Asgard to the humans, and was later destroyed by the more powerful Ori, and ''[[Stargate Universe (TV)|Stargate Universe]]'''s [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Project]] [[What Did You Expect When You Named It|Icarus]] had hoped to use the Stargate to go where no one had gone before, but ended up dying in a gigantic fireball. [[Genre Blindness|You'd think they'd catch on by now.]]
* Almost every project or endeavor in the ''[[Stargate]]'' TV shows is named prophetically. For example, ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'''s Prometheus brought the power of the Asgard to the humans, and was later destroyed by the more powerful Ori, and ''[[Stargate Universe (TV)|Stargate Universe]]'''s [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Project]] [[What Did You Expect When You Named It?|Icarus]] had hoped to use the Stargate to go where no one had gone before, but ended up dying in a gigantic fireball. [[Genre Blindness|You'd think they'd catch on by now.]]
** That said, they didn't name it the ''Prometheus'' until ''after'' they got some Asgard technology to play with, so it was a little less than prophetic, more "appropriate name our classicist scientist came up with"...
** That said, they didn't name it the ''Prometheus'' until ''after'' they got some Asgard technology to play with, so it was a little less than prophetic, more "appropriate name our classicist scientist came up with"...
* ''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' [[Lampshades]] this in the "Wizard School" story.
* ''[[Wizards of Waverly Place]]'' [[Lampshades]] this in the "Wizard School" story.
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{{quote| -"We named her Mary because we knew she'd git married, we name all our kids whut we thinks' gonna happen to 'em. Ain't that right, Knifed-In-Jail?"}}
{{quote| -"We named her Mary because we knew she'd git married, we name all our kids whut we thinks' gonna happen to 'em. Ain't that right, Knifed-In-Jail?"}}
** "We'll see who does the knifing."
** "We'll see who does the knifing."
* On ''[[The Fairly Odd Parents]]'', Timmy's parents were nicknamed Mom and Dad as children. This was done basically as [[The Un Reveal]] to their real names.
* On ''[[The Fairly Odd Parents]]'', Timmy's parents were nicknamed Mom and Dad as children. This was done basically as [[The Un-Reveal]] to their real names.
* ''Inch High Private Eye''. Inch wasn't a nickname.
* ''Inch High Private Eye''. Inch wasn't a nickname.
* In ''[[Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries]]'' it was revealed that Granny was always called Granny.
* In ''[[Sylvester and Tweety Mysteries]]'' it was revealed that Granny was always called Granny.
* ''[[South Park]]'''s Ms. Choksondik. Guess how she dies. Go on, guess. ( {{spoiler|Sound it out}})
* ''[[South Park]]'''s Ms. Choksondik. Guess how she dies. Go on, guess. ( {{spoiler|Sound it out}})
** [[Subverted Trope|But the newscaster said her death didn't have anything to do with the...]] "evidence" [[Subverted Trope|found in her stomach]].
** [[Subverted Trope|But the newscaster said her death didn't have anything to do with the...]] "evidence" [[Subverted Trope|found in her stomach]].
* ''[[Transformers Cybertron]]'': Overhaul. Gets a [[Mid Season Upgrade]] into Leobreaker.
* ''[[Transformers Cybertron]]'': Overhaul. Gets a [[Mid-Season Upgrade]] into Leobreaker.
** In ''[[Transformers]]'' in general, this applies in-universe to Megatron, who is named after the Transformer equivalent of Judas, and usually had that name ''before'' he became a villain.
** In ''[[Transformers]]'' in general, this applies in-universe to Megatron, who is named after the Transformer equivalent of Judas, and usually had that name ''before'' he became a villain.
* Used throughout the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' franchise to a degree. A pony's name tends to correspond to his or her personality/special talent, even though they are named before their later personality would be apparent (and finding their talent becomes a major focus of ''[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]].'')
* Used throughout the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' franchise to a degree. A pony's name tends to correspond to his or her personality/special talent, even though they are named before their later personality would be apparent (and finding their talent becomes a major focus of ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]].'')
** In a more "What were they thinking" example, in ''[[My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'', the Cakes name one of their newborn babies Pound Cake. Guess what he proves to have a troublesome habit of doing to things once he comes home from the hospital? Hint: It's not caking things.
** In a more "What were they thinking" example, in ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic]]'', the Cakes name one of their newborn babies Pound Cake. Guess what he proves to have a troublesome habit of doing to things once he comes home from the hospital? Hint: It's not caking things.
* ''[[Speed Racer]]''. Yes, that's actually his given name. He's a florist (No, of course not really.). Also his brother Rex, aka Racer X.
* ''[[Speed Racer]]''. Yes, that's actually his given name. He's a florist (No, of course not really.). Also his brother Rex, aka Racer X.