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'''Here be spoilers for ''Reconstruction'', ''Recreation'', ''Revelation'', and ''Season 9''. '''
 
* Holographic storage is a real (fringe) technology. It is quite immune to EMPs.
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*** Maybe emps work differently than EMPs.
** Wrongo. Wash clearly says that the [[A Is]] are being kept in holographic storage. Their holo-projection doesn't matter. It might destroy all the surrounding circutry needed to access the data, but that can be fixed. Maybe that was Wash's intention?
*** Probably so; however the plan revolved around not destroying the stored AI but {{spoiler|tricking Maine and destroying the ones ''he'' had which worked perfectly. There's actually not any indication there are any stored AI at all; most likely it was a white lie Washington used on Church, similar to the Director and Maine.}}.
 
* It's been focused on Church for almost the entire series at this point. I think they could do something with the fact that Grif is pretty much unkillable, despite all the effort Sarge has put into it. Let the Reds have a turn!
 
* Why did Washington ask Church to go? He knew that he would be at the epicentee of the EMP. He knew that it would kill Church. Washington intentionally lead Church to die.
** Maybe the plan was that he would jump back to his robot body before the EMP went off, but because it fell out of Caboose's jeep, he got caught in the EMP after all.
*** They were at least a few miles away at the time.
** Or maybe Church realized what he was and went along with it. In that moment before the AIs, he probably learned what he truly was. And I suppose that's something he wanted more than anything else.
*** More than living?
** Also, [[EM PsEMP]]s don't necessarily destroy computers, they shut them down (like when Sarge modified the Warthog to use the EMP for more power--itpower—it didn't destroy it every time, it just shut it down for a while). So the idea was probably to shut down the [[A IsAI]]s until they could be safely rebooted in isolation somewhere.
*** Then why does [[Word of God]] say {{spoiler|the Alpha is gone}} is my question...
**** Perhaps they're lying? It's not unheard of for creators to intentionally give out misinformation so that the fans don't actually know what's going on until the creators are ready for the big pay off where we find out what really happened.
**** Also, what was the exact words of [[Word of God]]? I mean, remember back when season five was closing and they said it was the end of Blood Gulch Chronicles to make everybody sad, but then continued the series in another way? There could be a similar loophole.
** Ehmps might not, but electromagnetic pulses work by frying every single transistor in the circuitry. That's pretty destroyed.
** Church and Tex show an ability that no other AI seems to be able to do; survive long term without a body. Not even Omega can survive without another body to hop into very quickly. Therefore, while other AI would be destroyed by the EMP, the Alpha likely could.
*** Could what? Please be specific.
**** Could survive the emp by outrunning it and waiting for people to arrive for him to possess.
 
* Washington said Church always agreed with Delta... but there was only one case where Church agreed with him, the rest involved him openly questioning a fair number of things Delta said (namely Washington's sanity).
** Delta was a representation of his logical side, not his intuition. Which means they would only agree in situations where they both had the same amount of knowledge. So as an example, Delta had known Wash longer than Church and as such, was able to make more informed opinions about his sanity, while Church would be relying on pure intuition.
*** That doesn't change the fact that Church only agreed with him once.
*** Church may have only agreed with Delta once, but Delta agreed with Church several times, which I always thought was just as important. Don't forget that Delta wasn't around them for very long. He didn't exactly have a lot of time to be agreed with. For the amount of time they were both present they never seemed to disagree.
**** That's why it bugs me. They agreed once on one thing, and had only a handful of conversations, most of which would not have included any reason to agree or disagree. There was not have had enough interaction for Washington to have made that assessment.
***** Washington probably just listed a bunch of attributes that Church would have, him always agreeing with Delta was one, since that's his logic. The fact they didn't spend much time together is irrelevant.
*** There's at least one instance in which Church did not agree with Delta, though indirectly. Washington killed South after Delta suggested it, but Church treated Washington as though he were crazy. That means Church did not agree with Delta's suggestion that Washington kill South. However, what's interesting is that even after that incident, Church still considered Delta to be a trusted source of information (such as asking questions about the Freelancer program while they were getting into position to take down the Meta).
**** This can be addressed by what someone said a little earlier. Church disagreed because he didn't have the information Delta did. Delta had personally witnessed South backstab people multiple times, and knew that if they brought her along it would just be a matter of time. Church had only just met South and to him it seemed like cold blooded murder.
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*** Check out ''Red Vs Blue Relocated'' Part Four.
 
* Why doesn't anyone think that Alpha is Tex? She is also a ghost and Wash said ghosts don't exist so she has to be an AI too. And he said Tex got special treatment and Church really hasn't gotten that. I don't know I just can't really shallow the idea of Church being an AI. Not Tex either as a matter of fact. Didn't they both have bodies?
** The fact that Epsilon showed us clips of events that happened to Church after his supposed torture tells me that the A.I are still linked to him somehow, therefore Epsilon has all of Church's memories even past the split. Epsilon shared some of these memories with Washington during their time together, so that's how Wash knows that Church was the Alpha and not Tex. As for the bodies, they will probably explain that in upcoming episodes.
*** That's presuming that Epsilon doesn't simply have the ability to transfer memories. At any rate, if he's still linked to Church he's probably still linked to Wash too - hence being able to draw on Wash's memories as well.
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** Its fairly common knowledge that the human brain will "make up" things to shove into memory gaps and be utterly convinced in its veracity unless showed overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
 
* This troper enjoyed the plot twist, but something still bugs her. If Church was really the AI Alpha, then when he was sent to Blood Gulch, was he in a robot body and didn't know it? Or was he in some kind of a clone body?
** I've always assumed he was in "Agent Florida."
** First one, most likely. The idea of him overwriting the personality of a Freelancer and taking total control of a human body without realizing he's an A.I. is just ridiculous. That fan theory always irritated me.
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* If Church was an AI rather than a ghost, than how was he able to talk to Sarge when he was briefly dead?
** Sarge likely wasn't brain dead, and Church was possessing him.
** We know AI can enter people's minds, as evidenced by Tex and Church entering Caboose's mind. Sarge was never fully dead, just knocked out, which is why CPR worked on him, so maybe Church was inside his mind like with Caboose. Caboose is a moron, and thusly his mind is scattered. Sarge is heavily devoted to the fight, so perhaps his mental layout just happens to look a lot like Blood Gulch, and has accurate depictions of those around him.
*** Either that, or, given that each AI seems to have a power, Church's AI power was enabling Sarge to view what was going on around him while passed out.
*** The powers actually come from equipment. It's just that some equipment requires an AI to use, because there are calculations involved that a human cannot possibly do, especially in the heat of battle.
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**** This troper likes Agent Washington, but the last episode of "Recreation" seriously ticked her off. ''Damnit'', Wash, why'd ya have to go and shoot the Red Team, huh?!
** I had this reaction at first, but I think he gets better over time. I got this with Tex too. I suspect it's probably because, seeing that we like our incompetent, lazy grunts from Red and Blue teams, any overly pro-active, tough, serious or macho characters need to be unfunny in order to show the absurdity of the main characters and their situations. As Church puts it in Reconstruction:
{{quote| '''Washington''': How do you ever get anything done if all you do is argue with each other? <br />
'''Church''': We don't! That's part of our charm. Quit fucking it up! }}
 
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* In ''Recovery One'', South claims she no longer has the ability to use her armor enhancement, the dome energy shield, because the Meta stole it. Yet in ''Reconstruction'', she used it just fine. When did she get it back?
** [[Blatant Lies]]? It ''is'' South, after all.
** The lies went all the way to Command. At the end of ''Recovery One'', we find out command predicted Washington would behave the way he did, and the whole thing was a set up. South then betrayed command once she had Delta. It was a [[Gambit Pileup]], and it's possible the Meta never attacked South (until ''Reconstruction'' anyway).
 
* You know something? This is all Simmons' fault. If he hadn't sent Donut to The Store, none of this would've happened.
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* Here's a few for ''Revelations'': What was the point of bringing Doc in if Donut was dead? And why did they have to have Donut killed anyway? (And don't say no one likes him, I still think his death was ''incredibly'' cheap.) Also, did they change Epsilon-Church's voice? I noted that it doesn't sound like Church's voice, and maybe it wouldn't bug me so much if the other characters would just comment on it... I know the new season is just beginning, and they might resolve things in their own way, but having to wait for it is just ''annoying...''
** In the matter of Doc being called in, it'll be answered in the next episode. {{spoiler|Washington ordered Simmons to get a medic to come look at the Meta, who has been having trouble using his equipment since he lost his AI.}} Killing off Donut, I don't know, I liked him. Some people have been saying Dan Godwin didn't want to do it anymore, or maybe they wanted someone [[Killed Off for Real]] to emphasize this season being [[Darker and Edgier]]. Hell, maybe this is all designed to mislead us and they do still plan to bring him back somehow. The aliens brought Captain Flowers back after all. As for Epsilon's voice, it sounds the same to me. It's still Burnie Burns voicing him. They use a different filter because he's inside a monitor instead of a suit of armour.
** Whoever is voicing Donut can't/doesn't want to do it anymore, and I guess the writers decided [[Killed Off for Real]] is better than permanently [[Put Onon a Bus]].
** The sponsor version of Episode 13 has {{spoiler|Donut waking up after Church orders orders all of Red Team's suits out of Recovery Mode. Presumably he'll be back when they can do something with the character other than gay jokes.}}
** As for Epsilon-Church's voice being different, he isn't getting the "mic" filter put over Burnie's voice because he isn't in a Spartan body. Instead, they've put a sort of synth over it, to mimic the Monitor's voices.
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* I guess it's only a small thing, but I noticed an inconsistency in chapter ten of ''Revelation''. Near the start, Tucker appears holding his battle rifle and his deactivated sword is attached to his hip. Fair enough. But then when he confronts Tex with his sword drawn, his rifle is nowhere to be seen and he now has a pistol on his hip. Shouldn't his rifle be on his back? Why did they change his weapon set?
** Maybe Tucker needed to get rid of the extra weight to move around better.
** When he used his sword it was a [[Monty Oum]] animated sequence, not the normal machinima. Monty might have left it out on purpose to make it easier to animate, or he just goofed and forgot it.
 
* How can an A.I. have an A.I.? Especially in the case of Tex and Omega, but also when Omega went into Church for a brief moment.
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** [[Monty Oum]] makes everything badass.
** She dodged a heat-seeking rocket, lifted a shipping crate over her head, and broke through a 6 inch thick metal wall with her bare hands. If that's not badass, then nothing is.
** The sheer coordination necessary to beat them up in such a stylish way is badass. Besides, as incompetant a leader as he is, Sarge is a pretty good fighter, and Tucker has obviously [[Took a Level Inin Badass|taken several levels in badass.]]
** Being a badass is pretty much a prerequisite for anyone in Project Freelancer, as seen in Season 9.
 
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** It could be a dual meaning - in there, he is the Alpha as in, "the most important person," or he's the Alpha because "Epsilon gets to live through Alpha's memories," or even that "Epsilon became Alpha through copying Alpha's memories and entire being," or tons of other dual meanings. I doubt it was to be taken literally.
 
* How do the people at "Command" sleep at night? They create simulation environments for "Red" and "Blue" squad members to fight each other for training purposes... but said "Reds" and "Blues" actually try and hurt/kill each other! (They use live ammunition, Tex nearly kills Donut with a grenade, Sarge was able to call in a massive airstrike, etc) Since when did "training" involve actually loss of life and/or life-threatening injuries?
** Not everyone has a conscience, friend.
** Plus, they didn't seem to be too bothered. How many times have Grif and Tucker been blown up / beaten / shot?
** [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters]]. Especially [[Bureaucrats Are Evil|bureaucrats]].
** The Director also had absolutely no problem whatsoever with torturing to the point of insanity an AI based on his own mind--andmind—and while he may not have treated {{spoiler|Agent Tex}} as badly, he certainly didn't treat the AI {{spoiler|sort of}} based on his lost love with too much care or respect either. Why should he care any more for the humans under his command?
*** Yeah, but not everyone at "Command" knew about Alpha being tortured. The Director and the Chairman knew, and probably the engineers involved knew, but the Freelancer agents certainly didn't know. It seemed like a pretty classified thing. I guess it just bugs me that the freelancers (especially the non-evil ones like Wash and York) could go into an RVB base and start blowing guys up as part of their "training."
*** Well actually it goes a bit further, in this Troper's opinion the Director is legitimately insane, losing Allison was so devastating to him that he has completely detached from reality.
** The Armor Lockdown shown in Season 8 as an explanation for the "afterlife" Sarge saw when he was nearly killed in Season 2 {{spoiler|as well as Donut's recovery in the sponsor-only version of that Season 8 episode}} mean that even though they're using live ammo, they aren't in any real danger. Also, the simulation soldiers were specifically chosen because they wouldn't be missed by the regular army.
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** I think I have one for the first one and maybe the second. In the first case I think Sarge was just messing with Grif when he suggested they just leave him there, and he never said he planed to fight the Blues when the returned to Valhalla. As for the second, Wash just helped save their lives. That ''might'' help with the whole "{{spoiler|not}} Killing Donut thing".
** As an above poster said, Sarge was just messing around with Grif. And when the Reds were talking about the Blues in the finale, it seemed to just be them reminiscing. And Sarge still hates Command. For the third question, I think that Church was just trying to make Caboose feel better. Plus, by "fuck it up," he probably means intentionally. He knows that Caboose will do his best to remember, and his best is good enough for Church, even if he lives on in Caboose's memory as an annoying prick. He's probably more afraid that Tucker will intentionally screw around with Church's legacy just to fuck with him.
** So Sarge knew that Grif was going to call close enough to the wall to stick in the Brute shot? I doubt that. And I don't buy that the whole kill Donut thing might to so unaddressed. Alliances made because of a common enemy don't typically last after the common enemy is defeated. At the very least, the issue would be addressed, I think. I'll accept the Epsilon Church explanation though.
** (1) That Sarge gained respect for Grif seems to be the result of fans applying the friendship equivalent of [[Shipping Goggles]] in Revelation. He doesn't insult and threaten Grif ''as'' often. He relies on Grif a couple of times when he has no real alternative. As for going back to fighting the Blues, his speech did also hint at the fact that everyone liked their situation. (2) Most of the stuff with Wash is up in the air; we saw very little of their interactions after the fight. He might be a [[Karma Houdini]], or he might not. (3) Remembering Church wasn't important in a practical sense; the stuff about memory keeping you alive was generally meant metaphorically when people referred to it. (The AI project obviously gave it a double meaning because they were based on minds and, sometimes, memories.) It was just a [[Friendship Moment]] done for Caboose's benefit. Epsilon knew he might be gone forever, so he gave Caboose a job that would make Caboose think that he was doing something vital for his best friend.
** Maybe Sarge didn't want to see Grif's dead body just after he finally did something.
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** Alternately, just because he's been around him so long. Judging by the Season 9 trailer, they were friends (or at least close colleagues) before the [[A Is]] drove Meta nuts.
 
* Every Freelancer is given a codename (a state) and a A.I named after a letter in the greek alphabet. Each Freelancer has one A.I. There are 49 states and 24 letters in the old greek alphabet. How is this possible?
** Maybe they started using letters form different alphabets?
** They stopped assigning [[A Is]] after Wash, remember? Presumably, if they had continued and used up all the letters, they would have done what the second poster said.
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***** They ''did'' try to shoot her. Repeatedly. But she was fast enough to dodge, get close up and disarm them before they could get any shots in. They didn't run because A: they were unfamiliar with their surroundings so they didn't know if there was a more defensible position nearby, B: she would have followed them and I really doubt any of them would be able to outrun her and C: they were panicking. Most of them were barely even trained as soldiers and they were up against Project Freelancer's ultimate killing machine. I'd have panicked too. As for whether or not it was the real Tex we were seeing, we'll have to wait and see. Rooster Teeth is being awfully coy about who this Tex is.
***** Agreed on the reasoning behind Caboose not being in CGI because him getting beat up would just be cruel. It would be like [[Shoot the Dog|shooting a puppy]]!
** Yes, I totally agree that having Caboose fight would be cruel but they've also used CGI for gags, like Grif kicking Epsilon and Doc being stuck in the wall.
** It was mentioned in the commentary that they had planned for some animated gags with Caboose (such as his helmet getting turned around so he couldn't see), but they never got around to doing them and by the time they got to the Tex fight, they stopped using the animation for gags and they agreed that it just didn't feel right to have Caboose animated.
 
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** This one is very minor, but after Grif crashes the Pelican into the canyon in Revelations, Wash tells Tucker and Caboose to go collect stuff for him. He mentions Tucker by name, but as far as I can remember, Wash has never met Tucker. How did he know his name?
*** Multiple ways. First, all the Reds' and Blues' profiles were on file; Wash could have come across Tucker in the databases. Second, Tucker found out about how the conflict between Reds and Blues was a lie, and Wyoming was sent after him; presumably, more than one Freelancer was told about the situation. Third, the Blood Gulch gang could have told Wash about him. Fourth, Tucker was working as an ambassador to the aliens, so he could presumably have celebrity status. Fifth, he has an alien child, which isn't exactly commonplace, and is probably widely talked about. Sixth, Wash could've been briefed on the entire Blood Gulch gang when he was sent after them.
*** It's definitely the sixth one since Wash was looking specifically for the Blues. It would make sense for them to actually brief him on who he was looking for and by extension which Blue not to look for.
 
* Why is it when Tex and Church arrive at the frozen base, Tex takes one look inside, talks a little about Alpha and then immediately leaves, saying the Director is the only who can answer her questions now. Was there a scene in the sponsored version where she looks around the base and finds nothing there or something? Because it feels awfully abrupt. Why go all the way to that base if you're just going to leave again.
** The base was an old Freelancer place. She went there to get munitions to fight Wash and the Meta when they arrived.
** I assumed she saw that the place was abandoned and that everything was shut down/wiped, so she instead switched to luring Wash/the Meta there so they could take her to the Director instead.
 
* The entire "Revelation" in season 8 that OMFG the Red vs Blue battles are a lie! We already knew that, Wash told us all about in Reconstruction, so why did everyone act like they had no idea?
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* If Grif and Sister are from Hawaii, then where the hell did they go ice skating where Sister could have been stuck underwater for three hours?
** Just because they lived in Hawaii doesn't mean they never left the place, ever.
** 500 years into the future, a lot can change. For all we know, Hawaii is cold in the future.
*** They have these things called refrigerated ice skating rinks, you know…
**** But those are not put over lakes. It's just ground under a layer of ice.
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* In Out Of Mind, Tex and York talk about York's eye injury and they all agree it's Omega's fault. But the Season 9 trailer implies that York lost his eye ''before'' they began implanting [[A Is]] in people, possibly before Tex even became a Freelancer. How is that supposed to work?!
** We don't know that it took place before any implantations, just before Wash's and probably York's and Maine's. Previous references indicated that the process was done in groups, so not all of the Freelancers got their AIs at the same time. Wash's reference to them implies that that part of the program was in its early stages, so presumably Tex was an early attempt.
** Could also be a red herring; for all we know, York's eye will get injured again and much worse by Omega later in the series.
*** This seems to be the case seeing as York seems to shrug off the eye injury in the trailer when telling Wash about it.
** You guys are a bit off. York's eye injury was caused by Maine throwing a grenade in training, and Tex saved his other eye by using shooting him with the sticky stuff, which hardened the armor and saved York's life. Now, none of this has anything to do with Omega, but notice that Tex and York never ''actually'' say it was Omega's fault. They just say that by going after Wyoming, York can get revenge. This makes sense, because Wyoming was also in that training simulation, and he was also using lethal firearms. With Maine and Wyoming both being so reckless, it was just a matter of time before someone got injured, and the fact that it happened to be Maine that eventually caused York's injury doesn't mean Wyoming was being any less of an asshole. In summary, the revenge is on Wyoming, Omega's not to blame, Tex saved York in a training mission.
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** He wasn't surprised; ''Church'' was. Wash was the one who offhandedly revealed the information while talking to Command about Agent Maine's Recovery Beacon, indicating that he must have known at least since the start of Reconstruction.
 
* What was the point in everything Wash did in Reconstruction? Let's recap, he goes all the way to Freelancer base to find the Epsilon unit. The Epsilon unit has evidence of all the atrocities that project freelancer did to the Alpha. However, the goal wasn't to help Epsilon, but to simply turn it over to the authorities where it'd be left there as evidence. Also, the plan was to have Church/Alpha help Wash to fight Meta, but Wash knew full well that the EMP would kill Church. If it wasn't to help the Alpha, and he didn't seem to be under orders from anybody, then what was the point in all that stuff in Reconstruction? I get why he's doing the stuff in Revelation, that was simply to save his own ass and keep him out of prison. That's completely understandable. But he wouldn't be in that mess in the first place if he hadn't turned against Project Freelancer, who hadn't really done anything to him at that point. It sounded like he was angered at what they did to the Alpha, but part of his plan involved the complete annihilation of the Alpha.
** You do remember the whole "torturing an AI so it breaks into fragments" deal, right? And that Wash had Memories of that process via Epsilon? Let me get the quote:
{{quote| Wash:We take it, and we get it in the hands of someone who can use all its information. Then they can bring down the person responsible for what was done to Alpha. And to me. And to my friends. They can take down the Director.}}
Wash simply wanted to get revenge on the Director, and wipe out the fragments that formed the Meta since they killed a bunch of Freelancers. Having Church staying behind was morally questionable, but Church had a choice.
 
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** Recreation hints that it had something to do with Gamma using Wyoming's time manipulation device.
 
* Though Caboose wasn't exactly smart to begin with, there's been multiple hints that his extreme "stupidity" is due to the Omega incident. It's also been stated that the forceful removal of an AI from someone's head causes some kind of trauma or damage. Which makes Caboose actually ''brain damaged'', perhaps even to the point of disability or mental handicap. Keeping this in mind, it suddenly becomes quite uncomfortable to see the others berate him, mock him, or patronize him for being "stupid" or "an idiot." Though berating, mocking, or patronizing someone for low IQ is pretty mean in itself, berating, mocking, or patronizing a disabled person for laughs seems to be [[Unfortunate Implications]].
** While he was nowhere near as bad as he is now, Caboose was always naive to begin with, and was thought of as an idiot by Church and Tucker. Because of this, they probably didn't notice that Caboose had become even worse after Omega, because they always considered him to be dumb, and he was just living up to their perception of him. Therefore, if he is brain damaged, they don't know it.
** Honestly, rewatching from the beginning, Caboose was actually pretty dumb in the beginning (at least, before Omega). I think people's perception of early Caboose is slightly warped because in his first couple appearances, he's just naive. His "that makes you... a gay robot!" line was pre-Omega, for example. He didn't really have as much of an opportunity to show off his idiocy. Plus, there's no evidence of an AI being removed causing brain damage or mental handicap of the sort Caboose has... just general craziness has been implied, and considering Wash (who had an AI forcibly removed after it tried to kill itself because it remembered being horrifically tortured) isn't an idiot, and {{spoiler|Carolina doesn't seem to be either}}, I see no evidence for it. Donut, on the other hand...
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* Just ''why'' are people so insistent that the blue Freelancer is Tex in some form or other, even after {{spoiler|she was revealed to be Carolina}}? She doesn't sound like Tex. She doesn't talk like Tex does. She has a ''very'' unique fighting style, involving flips and dancer-like kicks and minimum use of guns. It feels like forcing the similarities between the two is taking away from the fact that she's a very interesting character by herself. {{spoiler|And now that we know she's Carolina, why keep insisting that Carolina is actually Allison or the body Tex possesses, when Carolina has a pretty cool story of her own?}}
** Thats kind of a mish-mash of fan-theories. Ever since the big reveal of Reconstruction, people have been saying that the first time we see Church, he is already possesing a human body. [[Word of God]] says otherwise. There are hints that York and Carolina used to stick together, or where a couple (like Church assuming that when Tex met York, she also met Carolina) and Tex being Carolina in a way [[Your Mileage May Vary|would make York and Tex working together more tragic.]]
** A lot of it is fanwanking. It's entirely possible that the Freelancers actually do have (or rather had) two incredibly badass female agents. Still, they do have a lot of similarities. Consider that Delta says Caroline receives two AI. We know of a character who has two AI in one body (Season one Tex and Omega, given that Tex was an AI).
*** Except Tex and Church were not AI's in Season 1. That was retconned much later in the series.
**** They were AI's in season 1: the whole idea of a Retcon is "retroactive continuity" meaning that it applies to previous seasons. Furthermore, nothing in Season 1 directly contradicts Tex and Church being AI's, which made the retcon make sense when it was revealed in Reconstruction.
** In any case, the theories are completely pointless. Carolina and Tex have been separate characters since Season 1, even before Carolina was mentioned at all. There were 49 freelancers, all of them with state designations and Allison got the Texas designation because she is from Texas.
* Can someone tell me what the hell is going on at this point?
** Epsilon is in the Epsilon-pod. He wants to recreate the events of the Blood Gulch Chronicles so Tex will show up. But he couldn't create the Reds with the right persionalities and Caboose already called help from Command, which originally didn't happen until after Church died. So there are some changes and this part of the series seems to focus on how those change affect the story and Epsilon.
** The other parts focuses on the history of Project Freelancer. This is a Prequel to the main series, with no direct connection to the Epsilon-plot as of now. South and North extracted some Data from a Base, got discoverd, got saved by Carolina, everyone took of in a Pelican piloted by Pilot Lady. The Director is unhappy, because while they know where to go next thanks to the data, the enemy now knows they are coming. So South drops a rank on the chart and she is pissed.
Thats pretty much it.
 
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*** My guess is that the Director was scolding them for taking York's side. If York wasn't knocked out cold, the Director would be scolding him too for 'abandoning his teammates'. Though he's scolding everyone else, his speech seemed mostly directed at Washtington, who asked why Wyoming and Maine weren't going to be punished.
 
* Why would Church have any reason for an [[Oh Crap]] when Tex told him she knew everything? I mean, he went in there hoping to find her with memory completely intact, and then pull her out. It was only when he had to reconstruct Blood Gulch that he needed everything to go the way it was back in BGC.
** Probably because up to that point, she hadn't so much as mentioned that she knew everything. So it's not like he gets to meet up with his beloved Tex again and they can go skipping off into fields of daisies; from his perspective, she obviously doesn't care about staying with him. And Church being Church, he's obviously not willing to let her go yet.
 
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** As for why she's wearing it when talking to the Director, is there a rule that says that women who can kick your butt have to hate makeup or something? It doesn't seem odd to me at all that she might wear some between missions.
*** But if she's wearing it to look nice, then why's she still in her armor with her helmet under her arm? Can she even use those bulky arms to do eyeliner and mascara without poking herself in the eye? And isn't there a rule in the military that women can't wear conspicuous makeup? Honestly, I think the only reason she's in makeup is because Monty Oum thought she'd look hotter that way.
*** "is there a rule that says that women who can kick your butt have to hate makeup or something?" No, but it's pretty understandable that women who spend all day kicking butt, jumping off skyscrapers, dodging bullets, and getting run over by trucks are too ''busy'' to put on smoky eyes.
*** In the scene in question, she was back at base, between missions. We're not talking about her taking off her helmet at the end of the freeway chase, we're talking about in the finale when she's talking to the Director, which is likely some time after the heist/freeway chase. So no, I wouldn't say she would be too busy to do so.
*** Even if she ''is'' between missions (which doesn't mean ''free time''), if she's too preoccupied to get out of that half-ton suit, then it's pretty likely she'd be too preoccupied to do smoky eyes. I'm pretty sure women in the military don't wear mascara, eyeliner, and lip gloss while still wearing full combat gear.
*** We don't know her character that well. Maybe wearing make up is just an odd quirk. Maybe its just Rule of Sexy at work. Its not like it makes her any less of a character.
*** Considering her, ah, tone of voice while talking to the Director, it's entirely possible she put on the makeup because she wanted to impress/look good for him as much as possible while still "on-duty".
*** Of course, it's possible that we could just be overanalyzing things and that the real reason was simply because [http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=4014&v=more her 3D model was generated from the face of a woman who was wearing makeup]{{Dead link}}.
 
* Why does Carolina call Epsilon!Church "Alpha" in the finale? If she was working with the [[Rv B]] guys, including Wash I'm assuming, wouldn't she know it was Epsilon and not the original Alpha?
** [[Word of God]] is, Carolina doesn't care if he's Alpha or Epsilon. She needs him to get to the Director (probably because he can get through Freelancer security) but she doesn't care about him more than that. Which leads to an interesting contrast between Wash and Carolina--WashCarolina—Wash may not like Church, exactly, but at the end of the day, the reason he's against the Director is because of what the Director did to the Alpha. By contrast, Carolina's presumably in it for what the Director did to ''her.''
* Who is the soldier in blue armor who appears in the background of some scenes, such as the "planning the heist" scene? He/she was apparently considered important enough to appear on the Project Freelancer cover and DVD case.
** He's probably a pilot, like Four Seven Niner.
** In an AMA on Reddit, Burnie said we'll see more of him/her in Season 10. They could be just support personnel, but the fact that they're going to show up again does hint they could be more important--maybeimportant—maybe another Freelancer, maybe another pilot (there were two Pelicans in the heist, after all, even if Four Seven Niner's total awesomeness overshadowed the other guy's actions).
** I thought he was Church at first. Then I just went "meh" since, while he's unimportant, so are Wyoming and (ultimately) North. They're two of the least featured Freelancers of the season (North being almost a decoy protagonist)... maybe they'll do more next season, too.
** WMG has the best theory ever, for it. It's Private Jimmy from Sidewinder. It wouldn't make sense to be another pilot because he's last seen riding in Four-Seven-Niner's Pelican.
* The [[Rv B]] wiki says York's first name is James. Is this officially confirmed anywhere?
** It's on Wikipedia, which is where the [[Rv B]] wiki got it from, but there's no reference on Wikipedia. My bet is that somebody just stuck it in there and no one ever noticed and took it down, because I've never seen any confirmation of it anywhere.
* At the beginning of episode 19 of Revelation Wash tries to stab Tex with the memory unit and she knocks it out of his hands and almost off the cliff. He then yells "Be more careful, this thing cant take anymore hits." What bugs me is who is he yelling that at? If doesn't make sense for it to be Meta because he didn't have it and had no part in it getting knocked away. It makes even less sense to yell at Tex because she has every right to be knocking it away since Wash is trying to STAB her with it. It's entirely his fault but he seems to be yelling at someone, can anyone clarify this for me?
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** Delta likely hadn't seen Washington for years since the Epsilon breakdown. It's possible Delta was simply unsure if it was Wash when he first saw him. Especially considering the change in personality Wash had since the breakdown.
 
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