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Never is it mentioned that there's a risk of disease from his antics, nor does he ever have any bastard children that he has to pay attention to, nor does anyone ever point out that real reformed rakes had a tendency to turn into gigantic prudes. He never backslides even when he is revisited years later in other books. Compare to [[All Girls Want Bad Boys]], but here the trope is not just that the bad boy is attractive, but that [[Love Redeems|all he needs is love to fix everything wrong with him]], so you can have both that trope and [[Single Woman Seeks Good Man]] simultaneously.
Never is it mentioned that there's a risk of disease from his antics, nor does he ever have any bastard children that he has to pay attention to, nor does anyone ever point out that real reformed rakes had a tendency to turn into gigantic prudes. He never backslides even when he is revisited years later in other books. Compare to [[All Girls Want Bad Boys]], but here the trope is not just that the bad boy is attractive, but that [[Love Redeems|all he needs is love to fix everything wrong with him]], so you can have both that trope and [[Single Woman Seeks Good Man]] simultaneously.


More often than not, the core of [[Fan Fiction|Fan Fictions]] written by teenage girls, when they don't want their self-insert [[Relationship Sue|Relationship Sues]] to become a [[Love Martyr]].
More often than not, the core of [[Fan Fiction]]s written by teenage girls, when they don't want their self-insert [[Relationship Sue]]s to become a [[Love Martyr]].


Also, an interesting [[Double Standard]] can be pointed out in light of this trope: men can be redeemed with a woman's love and become faithful, loving, protective husbands and good fathers, nevermind their criminal pasts. On the other hand, women wih a criminal record or, worse, [[My Girl Is Not a Slut|who have known several men sexually]] are irredeemable, which is why no good man would ever bother with them in the first place. The [[Hooker with a Heart of Gold]] may defy this but, in most cases, she's at best a [[Temporary Love Interest]].
Also, an interesting [[Double Standard]] can be pointed out in light of this trope: men can be redeemed with a woman's love and become faithful, loving, protective husbands and good fathers, nevermind their criminal pasts. On the other hand, women wih a criminal record or, worse, [[My Girl Is Not a Slut|who have known several men sexually]] are irredeemable, which is why no good man would ever bother with them in the first place. The [[Hooker with a Heart of Gold]] may defy this but, in most cases, she's at best a [[Temporary Love Interest]].
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* It all started in 1740 with ''Pamela'', or ''Virtue Rewarded'' where the eponymous character overcomes Mr. B's rakishness with her [[Mary Sue]]-like perfection of virtue. Wildly popular to the point where it alarmed the author, Samuel Richardson, producing the opening quote, and making this [[Older Than Radio]].
* It all started in 1740 with ''Pamela'', or ''Virtue Rewarded'' where the eponymous character overcomes Mr. B's rakishness with her [[Mary Sue]]-like perfection of virtue. Wildly popular to the point where it alarmed the author, Samuel Richardson, producing the opening quote, and making this [[Older Than Radio]].
* Seth from ''[[Wicked Lovely]]''. He has piercings, lives in a train and has a reputation for getting around....yet he truly loves Aislinn to the point of {{spoiler|Sacrificing his mortality to be with her for eternity.}}
* Seth from ''[[Wicked Lovely]]''. He has piercings, lives in a train and has a reputation for getting around....yet he truly loves Aislinn to the point of {{spoiler|Sacrificing his mortality to be with her for eternity.}}
** In fairness, it is demonstrated very clearly that Seth ''does'' love her; it's not just an [[Informed Attribute]], and as much as he gets around, he's not shacking up with someone new every night of the week -- or having sex with someone and lying about it, whether to a current partner or otherwise. He's also not seducing women away from their boyfriends/husbands, nor does he look at the people he does take to bed as conquests. As for his relationship with Aislinn, he goes to incredible lengths to help Aislinn and to keep her safe, and she does so in return. They have a very strong friendship as a base, as well as complete trust in each other. Above all, Seth ''respects'' her. Seth doesn't have the personality of a rake. He's just a guy who enjoys sex, but hasn't wanted to get too serious with anyone. When he ''does'' want to have a committed relationship -- specifically, of course, with Aislinn -- he's fine with sleeping with her alone.
** In fairness, it is demonstrated very clearly that Seth ''does'' love her; it's not just an [[Informed Attribute]], and as much as he gets around, he's not shacking up with someone new every night of the week—or having sex with someone and lying about it, whether to a current partner or otherwise. He's also not seducing women away from their boyfriends/husbands, nor does he look at the people he does take to bed as conquests. As for his relationship with Aislinn, he goes to incredible lengths to help Aislinn and to keep her safe, and she does so in return. They have a very strong friendship as a base, as well as complete trust in each other. Above all, Seth ''respects'' her. Seth doesn't have the personality of a rake. He's just a guy who enjoys sex, but hasn't wanted to get too serious with anyone. When he ''does'' want to have a committed relationship—specifically, of course, with Aislinn—he's fine with sleeping with her alone.
** Wait, what do his piercings have to do with anything? You might as well have mentioned that he owns a snake. [[I Thought It Meant|No, not like that]].
** Wait, what do his piercings have to do with anything? You might as well have mentioned that he owns a snake. [[I Thought It Meant|No, not like that]].
* Rod of ''[[Out There]]'' offers this. [http://outthere.keenspot.com/d/20090326.html\]
* Rod of ''[[Out There]]'' offers this. [http://outthere.keenspot.com/d/20090326.html\]