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'''[[Healing Factor]]'''

::''Read more at [[Healing Factor/Analysis]]

Any character with a healing factor presumably also requires superhuman pain tolerance, to avoid falling unconscious from the crippling pain and then waking up ten minutes later good as new. Still would be useful, but not so much in a combat situation (where being unconscious makes you useless at best, and makes you a liability or opens you up to a [[Coup De Grace]] at worst.)

More importantly, they'd burn up a lot of energy accelerating the healing process that fast, and so would need super-stamina and more efficient internal energy use than normal (or an [[No Conservation of Energy|alternate energy source]]) or their own power could kill them by draining their body's resources too fast.

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* In ''[[Mahou Sensei Negima]]'', the main downside of Negi's [[Shock and Awe|Raiten]] [[Elemental Shapeshifter|Taisou]] is that Negi ''doesn't'' have the required secondary powers, and must control himself through extremelly advanced wind magic, which, due to requiring him to previously "mark" the destination and makeing him unable to actually react to change course mid-air, make it very possible to counter it by just obstructing the way between Negi and his target. {{spoiler|Raiten Sousou, its upgraded version, provides the required secondary powers.}}

* Several of the heroes in ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]''. The strong, and/or fast ones (Kotetsu, Barnaby, Antonio) are durable enough to use those skills without injuring themselves. [[An Ice Person|Karina]] and [[Playing with Fire|Nathan]] are likely to have resistance to their own elements, and [[Shock and Awe|Pao-Lin]] explicitly states that a taser won't work on her. Possibly odd example in the case of Lunatic {{spoiler|who can create fire in his hands for use in his crossbow, but his flashback in episode 16 shows that once he's set light to something (or in that instance someone) his fire can still harm Lunatic himself, as his father quite deliberately burnt young Yuri's face.}}

* In ''[[High School DxD]]'', Issei's power is having Boosted Gear, a Sacred Gear that doubles his power every ten seconds to the point that he can kill ''any deity'' whatsoever. The drawback however is that his stamina also gets drained because his body cannot handle the stress of his Sacred Gear's power. This leads him to undergo [[Training ~~From~~ Hell]] twice, once from Rias, and another one from [[Our Dragons Are Different|Tanninim.]]

* In ''[[High School DxD]]'', Issei's power is having Boosted Gear, a Sacred Gear that doubles his power every ten seconds to the point that he can kill ''any deity'' whatsoever. The drawback however is that his stamina also gets drained because his body cannot handle the stress of his Sacred Gear's power. This leads him to undergo [[Training from Hell]] twice, once from Rias, and another one from [[Our Dragons Are Different|Tanninim.]]

* It's eventually explained that the whole reason [[Squid Girl]] can pick up people and other heavy objects with her tentacles without losing her balance is that she can alter her weight with her bracelets, becoming heavy enough to anchor herself.

* At first one might think that the armors in Saint Seiya protect the users from the oponents attacks, in fact the armor's main function is to protect the user's body from his own powers since a normal human body isn't able to resist such ammounts of power, of course [[Fridge Logic]] kicks in most fights since more often than not the characters end up half-naked.

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* In ''[[Scion]]'', the most basic power available from any given Purview is usually the required secondary power needed for the rest of the powers to either work as intended or work as intended without killing the user. For example, the first dot in Fire and Frost makes the user immune to heat and cold, the first dot in Water lets the user breathe underwater, the first dot in Sky makes the user immune to falling damage, and the first dot in Death lets the user see and interact with ghosts.

** The books actually lampshade and handwave it with Epic Attributes, which allow supernatural and divine beings to be super-strong, super-fast, super-resilient etc. [[Clap Your Hands If You Believe|Due to the way the Scion universe works]], and due to the fact that all supernatural beings are bound by Fate, which represents (to a point) the collective subconscious of humanity, beings with Epic Attributes physically act not like they scientifically should, but how ''the common person'' thinks they should. The common person doesn't know that it's impossible to lift a bus without breaking it no matter how strong you are- so a demigod with Epic Strength can do that.

* Part of the reason ''[[Warhammer ~~40000~~]]'' contains such nightmarish procedures to convert a normal human into a [[Super Soldier|Space Marine]] is due to attempts to provide them with Required Secondary Powers. In order for a Space Marine to move their [[Power Armor]] as swiftly and instinctually as their own body a plastic film fitted with neural sensors and interface points is inserted under their skin, to allow them to interface with it directly. In order to prevent their bones from snapping due to the immense forces created by the Power Armor's servomotors they are reinforced with ceramics. In order to provide the chemicals necessary their organs are modified so that the Space Marine can digest concrete and metal. And so on and so forth.

* Part of the reason ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' contains such nightmarish procedures to convert a normal human into a [[Super Soldier|Space Marine]] is due to attempts to provide them with Required Secondary Powers. In order for a Space Marine to move their [[Power Armor]] as swiftly and instinctually as their own body a plastic film fitted with neural sensors and interface points is inserted under their skin, to allow them to interface with it directly. In order to prevent their bones from snapping due to the immense forces created by the Power Armor's servomotors they are reinforced with ceramics. In order to provide the chemicals necessary their organs are modified so that the Space Marine can digest concrete and metal. And so on and so forth.

** This is a debatable point. It is true that Space Marines need to be modified in order to use their power armor, but unlike some settings, there is power armor available for normal humans. It's difficult to say whether Space Marines are modified to use their equipment or their equipment is specced for the modifications made to Space Marines. Almost every piece of equipment they use has a variant that can be used by normal humans.

** It can be argued that the augmentation is a required *tertiary* power, since without both the natural strength boost in conjunction with the power-armor's strength boost, they would be unable to carry and fire the unreasonably large guns they are issued. Man-portable Las-cannons and Multi-meltas, weapons that weigh 40+ kilos and are usually crew served or vehicle mounted weapons are carried around by Marines and fired from the shoulder.

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* In ''[[Shadowrun]]'' super-strength cybernetic replacement limbs are specifically noted ''not'' to have these—a recipient trying to lift a car is in danger of ripping his prosthetic limbs off instead.

* In ''[[Rifts]]'' there's a class known as the Titan Juicer, chemically-enhanced humans who are much larger and stronger than is otherwise possible for a human. The class specifically mentions that the bones are made stronger so as to handle the increased weight and strength. Their punches are also so powerful they have to wear special gloves so that they don't break their hands when they take a swing at something.

* [[Dungeons ~~and~~ Dragons]] has some natural limitations on effects like scrying and translocation - one needs to have a good idea of the destination. . The caster of Teleport not knowing the destination ''very'' well risks to end up misplaced, which includes arrival in mid-air or into a wall. There's a more complex - of higher level - variant of Teleport spell with added safeguard, originally named simply "Teleport Without Error" (see 3.5 version - [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/teleport.htm Teleport] vs. [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/teleportGreater.htm Greater Teleport]).

* [[Dungeons & Dragons]] has some natural limitations on effects like scrying and translocation - one needs to have a good idea of the destination. . The caster of Teleport not knowing the destination ''very'' well risks to end up misplaced, which includes arrival in mid-air or into a wall. There's a more complex - of higher level - variant of Teleport spell with added safeguard, originally named simply "Teleport Without Error" (see 3.5 version - [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/teleport.htm Teleport] vs. [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/teleportGreater.htm Greater Teleport]).

== [[Toys]] ==

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== [[Video Games]] ==

* ''[[Pokémon]]'' in general. A lot of them must have pocket dimensions inside them to hold all that water/rock/webbing/snow/acid/etc. And, of course, there's the logistics behind fire and electric Pokemon not hurting themselves...

* ''[[Super Mario Brothers|Mario]]'', when properly empowered, can throw fireballs (and [[New Super Mario Bros Wii|ice balls]]) and not be burned/frostbitten by them, but is harmed by other fire sources.

* ''[[Super Mario Brothers|Mario]]'', when properly empowered, can throw fireballs (and [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii|ice balls]]) and not be burned/frostbitten by them, but is harmed by other fire sources.

** He also spends most of ''[[New Super Mario Bros]]'' kicking Conservation Of Mass in the nads.

** He also spends most of ''[[New Super Mario Bros.]]'' kicking Conservation Of Mass in the nads.

* The times in which a power ''[[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]]'' acquires is noticeably different from its source (Top Spin & Charge Kick), it's because he doesn't have wheels on his feet and must adapt the move. Further, he must have a built-in [[Star Trek|replicator]] to construct the ammo for those weapons that are physical in nature (such as the [[Game Breaker|Metal Blade]] or Needle Cannon).

** This is also the case with ''[[Mega Man X]]'' and Axl. They can't fully replicate the weapons as used by the bosses and adapt them as well. Although in X's case, once he gets the hardware upgrade for his [[Arm Cannon|X-buster]], he can charge the special weapons up and do things that the bosses couldn't do themselves.

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** The use of cybernetic implants in general is also explored. In real life, cybernetics that are married to biological tissue face issues of immune system rejection and the buildup of glial tissue that results in the device not working. As a result, anyone in the setting who uses augmentations must take regular doses of the drug Neuropozyne or their own bodies will reject their augs. The fact that Adam Jensen doesn't have this rejection issue is an important plot point; he is {{spoiler|the "Patient X" that Megan Reed was referencing as having the genetic ability to allow cheap and sustainable augmentations available for all of humanity}}, and the breakthrough was what triggered the {{spoiler|Illuminati's attack on Sarif Industries because of fears that human augmentation would go out of their control.}}

* The water breathing potion in ''[[Terraria]]'' makes it so that you drown in the air while it has it's effect. However, if you wear a fish bowl on your head, you can go in and out of water just fine.

* A lot of the flavor text in ''[[~~Starcraft~~]] 2'' is dedicated to explaining the secondary powers of the units.

* A lot of the flavor text in ''[[StarCraft]] 2'' is dedicated to explaining the secondary powers of the units.

** Viking pilots must be able to bend quickly or the machine will crush them during the air to ground transformation sequence, and most pilots die because of this during their first battle.

** Ghosts can read the minds of others, but can't block other ghosts from reading their thoughts.

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** The Hydralisk has several thousand mores muscles in it's large head than the entire human body. Each is needed to fire their spikes. which can pierce future tank armor.

* As well as being armed with a portal gun, Chell in [[Portal (series)|Portal]] is fitted with a pair of legs springs that [[Not the Fall That Kills You|allow her to survive falls from any height]]. According to the commentary, the developers added these because playtesters complained about the lack of realism. Even though the leg springs couldn't possibly account for all the issues with survivng falls, the complaints stopped.

* In ''[[Command & Conquer: Tiberium Wars]]'' the flamethrower-using Black Hand aren't immune to hostile fire attacks.

* In ''[[Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars]]'' the flamethrower-using Black Hand aren't immune to hostile fire attacks.

* Discussed in ''[[Mass Effect]]'' with regard to biotics, who can manipulate mass effect fields to lift, throw, warp, or block things. This is done because they have nodes of element zero in their bodies that are activated by electricity from the nervous system and produce mass effect fields. The asari are the only species that can naturally do this on any significant scale - all other species must have implants to strengthen and control their powers, allowing their biotics to actually become useful, as most species' bodies can't generate electrical fields like that. There's also the problem of energy, as using biotics uses a significant amount of it. Because of this, biotics have a significantly higher required calorie intake than ordinary people (half again as many calories are allotted to biotic soldiers as compared to regular ones, for example) and often have to stop to eat and rest after extended use of their powers.

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*** Of course, [[Crazy Prepared|Batman already knew that.]] That's why he did that instead of punching him in the face with Kyrptonite right off the bat.

* Played for laughs in the ''[[Dexter's Laboratory]]'' episode "[http://www.cartoonlair.com/dexters-laboratory/2x28-old-flame-dont-be-a-hero-my-favorite-martian-video_fb6ac0d71.html Don't Be A Hero]" where Dexter tries to give himself various superpowers. He gets all of the powers but none of the Required Secondary Powers. It doesn't work out too well. Another episode had Dexter running late for school (he only had 30 seconds before the bus would show up), so he sped himself up 60-fold (giving himself 30 minutes). This lead to him having to move ''very slowly'' to avoid friction burns (even having to re-do his homework after accidentally setting it on fire), having to grab water droplets from the showerhead due to how slowly they were going, and numerous other subversions.

** Timmy Turner does the same thing in ''[[The Fairly ~~Odd Parents~~]]''. He learns is leasson and wishes for secondary powers after the first few backfires.

** Timmy Turner does the same thing in ''[[The Fairly OddParents]]''. He learns is leasson and wishes for secondary powers after the first few backfires.

* Averted in ''[[Gargoyles]]'', as the eponymous beasts, despite having wings, don't have any of the Required Secondary Powers necessary to enable flight, and thus [[Not Quite Flight|can't actually fly]] (they simply glide). However, Dr. Sevarius notes since the amount of energy the species uses would require eating the equivalent of three cows a day, he theorizes that their daytime stone forms may be used to absorb solar radiation for the necessary energy. However, this has not been proven, especially since the Gargoyles have gone into their stone states indoors and in dark areas without seeming to be lethargic.

** [[Word of God]] has said that missing a day's worth of solar radiation for a Gargoyle is equivalent to skipping a meal. They'll have less energy, but it won't be very noticeable.

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*** As medical science will attest, the human stomach is in a constant state of ''digesting itself'', the inner lining of the stomach reforming itself faster than the stomach acids can digest it. Stomach ulcers are what happens when the acid ''wins.''

** Scorpions are immune to the venom of their own species, and often their entire genus.

* The human body has a limit on the severity of the G-forces it can withstand before going into blackouts, physical injury and eventually death. Until this physiological limitation can be overcome, having a [[Cool Plane]] that is agile enough to have a turning radius small enough as to be literally turning on a dime is worthless as no pilot would survive using its full potential. One possibility is to make it a UCAV, but if the military-industrial complex has any [[Genre Savvy|Genre Savviness]] about [[AI Is a Crapshoot|AIs in control of weapon systems]]...

* The human body has a limit on the severity of the G-forces it can withstand before going into blackouts, physical injury and eventually death. Until this physiological limitation can be overcome, having a [[Cool Plane]] that is agile enough to have a turning radius small enough as to be literally turning on a dime is worthless as no pilot would survive using its full potential. One possibility is to make it a UCAV, but if the military-industrial complex has any [[Genre Savvy|Genre Savviness]] about [[A.I. Is a Crapshoot|AIs in control of weapon systems]]...

** Or just have the best of both and make it remote-piloted like the [[wikipedia:MQ-9 Reaper|Reaper UAV]].

*** And even if the vehicle is unmanned, if the UAV was too agile, the pilot's reaction couldn't keep up.