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Basically, holding the grip of a [[Knife Nut|dagger]], a [[Sword Fight|sword]], a [[Katanas Are Just Better|katana]] or [[Weapon of Choice|whatever]] so that the blade points the direction opposite to the thumb. Usually only done with single-edged blades.
 
In the TV Land, the [[Rule of Cool]] usually is the reason why the reverse grip is used, rather than practical considerations. First, that's how [[Ninja|ninjasninja]]s hold their katanas in Japanese movies. Not cool enough? Well, that's how the Semper-Fi marines do it with their knives, too. In short, [['''Reverse Grip]]''' indicates a major [[Badass]].
 
While rare for full-length blades, [['''Reverse Grip]]''' is still common in [[Real Life]] knife fighting (essentially giving the user more leverage/power and making it easier to parry, at the cost of range). See [http://www.jayfisher.com/Knife_Grip_Styles_Hand_Sizing.htm this link] for more details. It also provides a better way to block than standard grip. In fiction, [['''Reverse Grip]]''' is used to show that a character is an experienced street fighter or hardened killer (indeed the grips are sometimes known as the "murderer's grip" or "[[Slasher MoviesMovie|slasher's]] grip" because of this). So if you see a [[Knife Nut]] face off against another and one of them holds the blade backwards, you know who's gonna win.
 
With full-length swords, [['''Reverse Grip]]''' is most likely to be used while [[Dual-Wielding]], and demonstrates that the character is really proficient with two blades. If the primary sword is held this way, it may also indicate the unwillingness of the wielder to hurt the opponent, since [['''Reverse Grip]]''' is rather a defensive position more suited to block than to attack since it reduces the range of the weapon. On the other hand, it is also somewhat suited for slashing the enemy, especially, at stomach or throat level. This is often used on unaware targets or [[Offhand Backhand|in passing]]. In that case, the message is clear: [[Technical Pacifist|the guy doesn't want to fight you but push him too far and you'll be sorry]]. On the real-life side of the fence, it is occasionally taught in the form of kata for full-length swords and some schools teach it as a last ditch technique if one is surprised while sheathing the sword; in actual practice, however, this grip is very rare and not particularly effective.
 
See also [[Gangsta Style]], this trope's equivalent with regards to guns.<ref>with the difference that reverse grip can actually be a useful technique</ref>.
 
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=== '''Examples:''' ===
 
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== Anime and Manga ==
 
* Many ninja in ''[[Naruto]]'' hold kunai in this position, generally for melee combat.
* Kensei Muguruma of ''[[Bleach]]'' does this, most prominently in the chapters where Ichigo is battling {{spoiler|his inner Hollow}}.
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* In ''[[Gekiganger 3]]'' they used the Gekigan Sword this way against a ninja-like robot once.
* Kadaj of ''[[Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children]]'' does this with a double bladed (as in the blades are side-by-side) katana, despite the fact that this would be incredibly difficult in [[Real Life]]. He gets away with it, though, thanks to the [[Rule of Cool]].
* Kaku occasionally uses [[Reverse Grip]] [[Dual-Wielding]] on a pair of katana in ''[[One Piece]]''. Also "Bohemian Knight" Doma who reverse-grips a saber in each hand. His fighting style seems to center around defeating opponents from behind him.
* Caldina from ''[[Magic Knight Rayearth]]'' favors this style when she's not just [[Master of Illusion|manipulating her foes into offing themselves]].
* [[Digimon|Leomon]] wields his sword reverse grip.
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** Enishi Yukishiro reverse-grips his Chinese sword for his [[Finishing Move]].
* [[Ace Pilot|Kallen Kozuki and Li Xingke]] from ''[[Code Geass]]'' actually have their ''[[Humongous Mecha]]'' hold their blades this way.
* This is the usual grip for ''[[Lupin the ThirdIII]]'''s Ishikawa Goemon.
* [[Badass Grandpa|Old Man Fuu]], [[Spell My Name with an "S"|Ling Yao]]'s manservant from ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]'', wields his sword this way.
* Take a look at the standard cover for ''[[Princess Mononoke]]''. Either dude has the strongest wrists in the world, or things will become very unfortunate, very quickly.
* Rival player Yuujirou Kai in ''[[The Prince of Tennis]]'' plays normal-grip right-handed at first, but reveals he is actually Reverse Grip [[I Am Not Left-Handed|LEFT-handed]] during his match with Kikumaru.
* Shiki of ''[[KaranoKara no Kyoukai:]]'' often switches her grip several times over the course of a fight, and at one point even throws her knife from a reverse grip.
* Kureha from ''[[Tokko]]'' usually wields her twin daggers with a reverse grip.
* Death the Kid from ''[[Soul Eater]]'' wields his dual pistols reversed. Yes, he pulls the trigger with his pinky.
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== Comic Books ==
 
* Cutter in ''[[Elf Quest]]'' uses his short curved sword New Moon in a reverse grip to slash his opponents. Panel 5 of this page from #15 of the original series (WARNING: violent battle scene) is [http://www.elfquest.com/gallery/OnlineComics/OQ/OQ15/DisplayOQ15.html?page=27 the first time we see him use this technique].
** Note that the manga ''[[Kamui No Ken]]'' (Dagger of Kamui) was a major influence on the artist, Cutter gets his technique straight from Kamui (which makes him some sort of elf-ninja).
* The ninjas from ''[[Empowered (Comic Book)|Empowered]]'' also do it this way.
 
== Film ==
 
* This grip is favored by [[Zatoichi]], which makes sense since it saves him the trouble of changing his grip on his [[Sword Cane|walking stick]].
* John Preston absolutely ''owns'' everyone when he switches his katana(s) to [[Reverse Grip]] in ''[[Equilibrium]]''.
** It was only ever one Katana at a time, though he does manage to use a scabbard to lethal effect in his off-hand in one of the final scenes.
* Bride vs Copperhead in ''[[Kill Bill]]'', where the Bride uses the reverse grip. And wins.
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* [[Avatar (film)|Colonel Quaritch]] holds a knife not only in reverse grip, but with the blade [[Up to Eleven|towards the arm]], too. While in a [[Mini-Mecha|three-meter-tall]] [[Powered Armour]]. I think it won't surprise anybody to say [[Screw You, Elves|that]] [[Colonel Badass|he's a]] [[Badass]] [[Villainous Valor|of the first]] [[Rooting for the Empire|water]].
* In ''[[The Chronicles of Riddick]]'', this is how the eponomous [[Anti-Hero]] holds his blades.
* Per the below example,. [[Reverse Grip]] [[Dual-Wielding]] ''[[Rule of Cool|of lightsabers]]'' is actually seen briefly in the background in ''[[Attack of the Clones]]''.
* Used in ''[[Hero (film)|Hero]]'' several times, both by the Nameless Hero and Broken Sword.
* In ''Faster'', [[Dwayne Johnson|The Rock]]'s character wields an icepick against a man with a larger knife. Ironically, it's The Rock who flips his weapon into reverse grip.
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== Literature ==
* There is a lightsaber combat style based on [[Reverse Grip]] in the ''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]'' called Shien (not to be confused with the Form V variant of the same name). It is seen, for example, in Stackpole's ''[[Jedi Academy Trilogy|I, Jedi]]'' and used by several EU characters, including Adi Gallia, [[The Force Unleashed|Galen Marek]], and [[Star Wars: The Clone Wars|Ahsoka Tano]]. Vader might also be accomplished in this style, considering that he taught the latter two.
 
* There is a lightsaber combat style based on [[Reverse Grip]] in the ''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]'' called Shien (not to be confused with the Form V variant of the same name). It is seen, for example, in Stackpole's ''[[Jedi Academy Trilogy|I, Jedi]]'' and used by several EU characters, including Adi Gallia, [[The Force Unleashed|Galen Marek]], and [[Star Wars: The Clone Wars|Ahsoka Tano]]. Vader might also be accomplished in this style, considering that he taught the latter two.
** The style described in ''I, Jedi'' is a two-handed variant, with one hand on the grip and the other grasping the pommel, allowing the wielder to lever the blade around by its end using the grip hand as a fulcrum.
* A key point raised by the dissenting juror in the play ''[[12 Angry Men]]'' is that the accused was seen plunging a knife down into the victim's chest. The juror points out that the switchblade found on the accused is not held using that particular grip, but with the blade pointing upwards.
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* In ''[[Wheel of Time]]'', the sword form Heron Wading in the Rushes has the sword held reversed over the head, while standing on one leg. According to the main character's teacher, it's good for practicing balance and [[Reality Ensues|getting yourself killed]].
** Used ([[Chekhov's Gun|at the end of the book it was introduced in]]) as sort of a weaponized [[Taking You with Me]] or [[My Death Is Just the Beginning]]: by exposing himself to lethal damage, Rand gets his opponent to over-commit and thus expose ''himself'' to lethal damage.
* In [[H. Beam Piper]]'s ''[[Last Enemy]],'' Verkan Vall picks a knife duel and blinks in astonishment when he notices his opponent using this style. After killing the fellow -- "Only eight seconds from the time you closed with him" -- Vall—Vall, who learned knife-fighting from pirates, remarks that he feels like a murderer of children; evidently Piper didn't think much of the Reverse Grip.
* Abbie Hoffman, in a section of ''Steal This Book'' focusing on knives, advocates against using this grip:
{{quote| "Having seen too many Jim Bowies slash their way through walls of human flesh, they persist in carrying on this inane tradition. Overhead and uppercut slashes are a waste of energy and blade power. The correct method is to hold the knife in a natural, firm grip and jab straight ahead at waist level with the arm extending full length each time. This fencing style allows for the maximum reach of arm and blade. By concentrating the point of the knife directly at the target, you make defense against such an attack difficult."}}
 
 
== Live Action TV ==
 
== Live -Action TV ==
* Frequently employed by Duncan McLeod in ''[[Highlander (TV series)|Highlander]]'' with his katana. Used at least once with a regular sword.
* Richard does this quite often in ''[[Legend of the Seeker]]''. In the books, he's occasionally mentioned as doing this with his off-hand dagger.
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* In ''[[Supernatural]]'', Sam and Dean often hold electric torches like this, for reasons described in the "Real Life" section of this page.
* In the third episode of ''[[Stargate SG-1]]'', Carter fights the [[Space Romans|Space Mongol]] chieftain with her combat knife in a reverse grip.
 
 
== Music ==
 
* Richard and Roland of [[Sonic Syndicate]] occasionally held their ''microphones'' in reverse grip.
 
== Tabletop Games ==
 
* In ''[[GURPS]]: Martial Arts'' holding a weapon this way makes certain attacks more effective and others more difficult. It's most effective with knives and tonfas.
* The Red Mantis Assassins in [[Pathfinder]] are noted as [[Dual-Wielding]] _both_ their serrated sabers in [[Reverse Grip]], in emulation of mantis claws.
 
== Video Games ==
 
* Vader's apprentice does it in ''[[The Force Unleashed]]'' and ''[[Soul Calibur]] IV'' with a [[Laser Blade|lightsaber]]. While still not ''wholly'' practical, this is probably one of the best opportunities to use it since it's uni-directional blade.
** It's worth noting that when the apprentice actually attacks, he switches to a standard grip. Guess the lack of range just doesn't work for him.
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* Used in ''[[Dragon Quest]]: [[Dai no Daibouken]]'', for the 'Avan Slash' attack and other based on it...Dai does this with knives, short swords and BFS alike.
* Grey Fox of ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' holds his katana this way.
** Snakes (as in Solid (Old) and Naked (Big Boss)) hold their CQC blades this way, but that makes sense as it's in their off hand and it's basically dual-wielding, but with a firearm in the strong hand. Big Boss actually talks about it in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]'' when he's whittling the grip on his shiny new 1911.
* Baiken in ''[[Guilty Gear]]'' does this with her katana (which is her main weapon -- sheweapon—she doesn't have an offhand weapon because she only has one arm, but she stuffs a lot of weapons in her other sleeve [[Inspector Gadget]] style). In her case, however, it's partly out of practicality and partly out of habit - she lost her right arm, which was most likely her dominant arm. Considering the weapons crammed into her right sleeve, a sheath there might get in the way, and so she wears it on the left, usually drawing it in a reverse grip because that would be the easiest way to draw it when the arm and sheath are on the same side. Of course, some of her fancier [[Rule of Cool]] steps in.
** Can't bring up ''[[Guilty Gear]]'' without mentioning Sol's fighting style, too.
** Or [[Blaz BlueBlazBlue|Ragna's]].
* When playing for the Lotus Clan in ''Battle Realms'', Blade Acolytes dual-wield their swords this way.
* The Dragon dagger is the only weapon to be wielded that way in ''[[RunescapeRuneScape]]'', all other daggers are wielded normally.
* Most classes in ''[[Project Reality]]'' that aren't able to [[Bayonet Ya|mount a bayonet]] on their main weapon will usually still carry a knife, and will often wield it this way when using it.
* Krauser in ''[[Resident Evil 4]]'' holds his knife this way. Justified as he's clearly had military service (U.S. SOCOM).
** He also defies part of this trope in that, in his knife-fight with Leon (who usually uses a sabre grip), he didn't win. The fight was also something of a showcasing of various knife grips, seeing as they both switched from one grip to another so many times.
** [[Older Than They Think|People who didn't start the series with part 4]], however, may have noticed that Jill held her knife in a reverse grip in the original 1996 title.
* In ''[[Diablo II]]'', all dagger-class weapons are wielded in [[Reverse Grip]], thus distinguishing them from swords.
* In ''[[Final Fantasy XI]]'', "katana" (which are actually ninja-to, kunai, and wakazashi) are always held like this. Naturally, the one class that gets skill in these weapons is Ninja, and it quickly gains access to [[Dual-Wielding]] capability.
* Hawkeye from ''[[Seiken Densetsu]] 3'' holds his [[Dual-Wielding|two daggers]] this way.
** So does Zidane from ''[[Final Fantasy IX]]''.
** And Rei from ''[[Breath of Fire III]]''.
** And Rikku from ''[[Final Fantasy X 2|Final Fantasy X-2]]''.
** And any Assassin-class unit in ''[[Fire Emblem]]''s 7 and 8.
* Kid from ''[[Chrono Cross]]''.
* Fiora from ''[[Xenoblade]]''. She holds her knives this way, paired with [[Dual-Wielding]]. {{spoiler|Although she changes her [[Weapon of Choice]] after she is turned into a [[Robot Girl]]}}.
* Jyuji Kabane from ''[[Gungrave]]: Overdose'' deserves a special mention as he '''[[Dual-Wielding|dual-wields]] [[Cool Guns|gun]]-[[Katanas Are Just Better|katanas]] in [[Reverse Grip]]''', thereby making him an automatic [[Badass]]. He also happens to be an undead, blind swordsman with a penchant for fire, but [[Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot|that's....]]
* Knives in every ''[[Call of Duty]]'' game starting with ''[[Modern Warfare]]'' can only be used in this way - it may be interpreted that the reason for this is a quicker draw, since the knife may not be held out alone, unless paired with a pistol for the [http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Tactical_Knife Tactical Knife] attachment in ''MW2''.
* In ''[[Super Smash Bros.]] Brawl'', Pit can split his bow into two swords. He holds one normally, while the other is held like this in order to speed the reattaching process.
* In ''[[Assassin's Creed]]'' Altair holds the short blade like this. Appropriately, the short blades are slightly better than long swords when surrounded by multiple enemies, drastically reducing the times needed to parry blows, dodge, and counterattack (the downside being less base damage).
** His descendant Ezio Auditore follows in his footsteps with his own short blades. He actually draws and replaces them from his belt in a standard grip, then flips it over in the transition to his fighting stance.
* In ''[[Final Fantasy XII]]'', Judge Magister Gabranth holds the smaller of his two blades, ''Highway Star'', in this manner when he splits [[Double Weapon|his weapon]] in two. Which is odd, because the artwork (particularly the iconic logo) depicts him wielding both blades in a standard grip.
* In ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep]]'' Ven wields his Keyblade like this, while his starting blade is designed with this in mind, with the grip on the side, all of his other blades are standard, straight Keyblades.
** To say nothing of Saïx, who reverse-grips a frickin' ''[[BFS|claymore]]!''
*** And in ''358/2 Days'''s Mission mode, secret character Sora flips to a reverse grip for the last hit of his ground combo when wielding the Dream Sword.
* The Spy from ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'' uses standard grip when attacking normally, but switches to Reverse Grip when [[Back Stab|Back Stabbing]]bing.
* Knife-wielders in the ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' games, or at least Sothe and Volke, appear to wield their knives this way in combat.
** Though in ''Path of Radiance'' it appears to be limited to the Thief class, as Volke switches to a much more relaxed forward grip.
* More ''[[Soul Calibur]]'' fun. Taki carried two ninjato into battle; her primary seemed to be held conventionally, while her secondary, on the rare occasion it's used, is held this way. In addition, in ''Soul Calibur 3'' you could give the 'Wave Sword' skill set to a generic character; these were twin swords used normally that just curved around the wielder's hands like a basket hilt then continued downwards.
* ''[[Samurai Shodown]]'s'' Nakoruru seems to use this form often. It also applies to Cham Cham; even though it's a giant boomerang, when she holds it in paw and swings it, it's done this way. Starting with the 3rd game, Ukyo Tachibana holds his sword this way for several of his attacks, usually strong normal sword strikes. Sogetsu Kazama also uses it, mainly in his standing strong slash.
* The Bard from ''[[The BardsBard's Tale]]'' can learn to dual wield a sword with a dagger, holding the latter backwards.
* The Crowmaster enemies in ''[[Prince of Persia]]: Warrior Within'' are seen wielding scimitars in a reverse grip.
** The titular character in the ''[[Prince of Persia]]'' reboot shifts his scimitar into this position when in a defensive/blocking stance.
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== Web Comics ==
 
* Kit from ''[[Fey Winds]]'' holds one of her swords with a normal grip, and the other reversed.
 
== Western Animation ==
 
* Ahsoka Tano from [[Star Wars: The Clone Wars|The Clone Wars]]. Apparently it's better at deflecting blaster bolts. Anakin has been trying to break her of this habit, and she now switched between them.
** Wookieepedia calls this the "Reverse Shien grip", a variation on Form V lightsaber combat.
 
== Real Life ==
 
* There is a similar distinction in table tennis: the shakehand grip is the "traditional" grip with the racket's "blade" above the thumb, and the penhold grip is the reverse with the racket's grip pointing upwards, as if it were a pen.
* Police and other emergency and security workers are often taught to hold electric torches like this, as if you're suddenly assaulted it makes it easy to hit your assailant with the non-glowing, less easily damaged end (and torches used by such people are often very heavy and robust).
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*** The above cases hold the light end of a flashlight overhanded in order to wield the body as a weapon in a conventional, underhand grip. Some security officers may also use lighter, mid-size flashlights with the entire body in an overhand grip in order to grapple an assailant with the crook formed by the flashlight and forearm.
* Some styles of Kung Fu, when using a short knife as a weapon, will teach students to use a backhanded grip. Most techniques from this grip are strikes or jabs with the pommel, rather than blade techniques; it's the defensive techniques that use the blade, and mostly for non-flashy disabling cuts. "Yeah, you're not using that arm without some serious surgery..." The stabbing motion with the backhand grip also uses the same action as the (karate) chop, which lends itself well to open-hand styles.
* Parrying daggers are often used in this way. As the name suggests they're mostly for blocking the other guy's sword. And they often are more useful when held in a [[Reverse Grip]] because doing so decreases the strain on wrists (as the parrying weapon is supported with the entire arm this way), thus allowing for a firmer hold on the weapon when blocking.
* Butcher knives are meant to be held this way.
* A [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfsIL0VBoY real life example] in a "real life" category.
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