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* Fans of the original ''[[Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' light novels cried foul when the [[Anachronic Order]] of the books was different from that of the show; never mind that it was ''still'' out of order, the climax was ''still'' at the end and it ''still'' worked from a storytelling point of view. Then again, they were also in shock that [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|their beloved obscure light novel series was now a]] [[Cash Cow Franchise]] [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks|loved by millions]].

* [[Ruined FOREVER|This trope]] caused the [[Broken Base]] of ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'': when it moved into the second half, many of the more traditional shounen fans claimed it was [[Ruined FOREVER]] because of being.... ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]''. The base broke even further due to ''[[End of Evangelion]]'' later, which some saw as an example of a [[Trolling Creator]].

** Fundamentally, ''[[End of Evangelion]]'' forms an alternate ending for the series, along with the updated "video & LD versions" of episodes 21 through 24. Fans do exist who would have preferred that NGE ended with its television broadcast of the original ending, some considering the updated ending to be unnecessary retcon that soils interpretation of the show.

** If the [[Rebuild of Evangelion|new Evangelion movies]] (the fan-branded "Rebuild") end up being connected ''in-universe'' to the original Evangelion series, many Eva fans will cry out "RUINED FOREVER" in a singular voice so terrible that it will knock the planet off-axis.

* At what point was ''[[Armored Trooper VOTOMS]]'' [[Ruined FOREVER]] for people looking for a hard sci-fi mecha series? Was it Roots of Ambition where Chirico survived a shot in his heart due to Perfect Survivor status? Was it The Shining Heresy where Chirico was [[Born Lucky]] enough to do a crazy ricochet fluke shot into the Order Buckler's cockpit and destroying Teitania's Auxillary Brain, Was it the newer OVAs such as Pailsen Files and Phantom Arc for Sunrise copping out on [[Conspicuous CG|dodgy computer-generated ATs]] and it basically amounting to needless padding on Chirico's backstory, Some even claim that VOTOMS wasn't very realistic to begin with when the Quent arc rolled around and [[The Reveal]] happened. for bonus points, mention the phrase "Child of God." as that aspect of Chirico's character is a sore spot with many fans.

** There was also a ''massive outcry'' at the [[Replacement Scrappy|cast reboot]] in ''[[Digimon Tamers]]''? Not to mention the fact that [[Digimon Adventure|the original]] was a [[Show Within a Show]] there.

** [[Digimon Savers|Marcus]] doesn't wear [[Goggles Do Nothing|GOGGLES?!]] The characters are OLDER than 12?! The animation is more anime-y? [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|AGUMON'S NOSTRILS ARE FEATURELESS POLKADOTS?!]] Say it isn't so!

* ''[[Naruto]]'': Most commonly Sasuke [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|being the focus of an entire arc]] (especially the part about {{spoiler|[[Shocking Swerve|Itachi being a good guy]]}}). Honestly, it has such an [[Unpleasable Fanbase]] you can find someone that thinks the series [[Jumped the Shark]] at any moment, usually in the form of "(Character X) [[Out of Focus|hasn't done anything in months]], it's ruined!" Additionally, there's also a segment of the fandom that has said the [[Time Skip]] was when they stopped liking it, [[Selective Obliviousness|even if most of what they're complaining about didn't happen until quite a while after or had been happening for a while before the time skip itself]] and they more or less seem to just be trying to focus their scorn on something important.

** Then there's - "{{spoiler|Sai told Sakura Naruto loves her... WHAT ABOUT HINATA?!?}}"

* To expand on that, parts of the online fandom of any given anime tends to say that ''any'' anime that gets [[Subbing Versus Dubbing|dubbed into English]] (no matter how faithfully), is "ruined", despite the fact that no one's ever going to force them to actually ''listen'' to the English audio.

** Even though the Ghibli dubs are generally respected, there are some so-called "true fans" who insist on hating them simply because they're by Disney, and they object to any change to the dialogue, music, that may have been done to these films, stating that these movies have all been destroyed; an argument which is totally fatuous considering that Miyazaki and Ghibli were both involved with the creation of the dubs. If they don't think their works are ruined, who are such "fans" to say otherwise?

** And on the flipside, with the anime industry scrambling to salvage itself and still turn a profit while still trying to license a diverse bunch of shows, several "niche" shows are being released sub-only. You know, the kinds of shows that put even a large studio like [[Geneon]] out of business because the dub cost so much the show didn't turn a profit. Anime is now ruined FOREVER because the industry is "[[Flipping the Bird|discriminating]]" against dub fans. Strangely, nobody thinks the industry is ruined FOREVER because of the ongoing recession.

* The ''[[Pretty Cure]]'' fandom is apparently the [[Distaff Counterpart]] of the ''Transformers'' fandom or something, judging by the [[Internet Backdraft]] that occurs every time the premise of the next series is revealed without fail, complete with one subset that everything needs to go back to the way it was in [[Futari wa Pretty Cure|2004]]. When your fandom complains about ''[[Futari wa Pretty Cure Splash Star]]'' for being an [[Alternate Continuity]], then complains about ''[[Yes! Pretty Cure 5|Yes! Pretty Cure 5GoGo!]]'' for ''not'' being an [[Alternate Continuity]]...

* It appears to be very common in mainstream mecha anime. Fans have found something to complain about ''in every single episode'' for ''[[Code Geass]]'', ''[[Macross Frontier]]'', and ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam 00]]'', with the amount of ruin escalating the higher the episode count is.

* ''[[Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]'': Yes, even this! {{spoiler|Kamina's death is proclaimed this by some}}. This sentiment usually disappears after they see the rest of the series, and some have since even considered it [[Growing the Beard|the point after which the show got better]].

* Many ''[[Fruits Basket]]'' fans cried this when it was revealed that {{spoiler|Akito is female}}, which [[Ship Sinking|sunk ships]] everywhere and created a generally hilarious explosion because we all know that [[Het Is Ew]] and they totally ruined the character for ever and ever.

** "''FORCE'' is no longer a magical girl show! RAEG!"

** [[Badass Decay|What have they done to]] {{spoiler|Signum and Hayate}}!? God damn you, this is no longer Nanoha!

** 1.) {{spoiler|When [[An Ice Person|Hitsugaya]] (presumably) beat Halibel}} there was a sudden influx of "Bleach is ta lose!!11one!" {{spoiler|When it was revealed that he hadn't even scratched her, very few of those who declared the series ruined came forward to retract their previous assessment.}}

*** Particularly sad considering the lack of genre savviness of these viewers; when has trapping an opponent in ice ever worked? (except in Fairy Tail)

*** Many readers following the chapter releases online actually embraced the whole thing and started to enjoy the many inventive ways the author can come up with to "ruin" his manga. The most ridiculous the development, the better! Kubo himself stated that he really loves designing characters and admits to creating new ones as a way to get himself out of writer's block.

** Special mention should probably also go to {{spoiler|Yammy's [[Reveal]] as the 0 Espada}}, which tended to be viewed as a) wall-bangingly [[Ass Pull|stupid]], b) hilarious, c) [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|awesome]], or d) some combination of the above.

** There was also a case of this during the Deicide in which the "fans" had a problem with, wait for it..., the name; complaining endlessly that Tite is an idiot who couldn't spell the word decide right. Said "fans" tended to ignore the possibility that Deicide could possibly be a word itself and didn't even bother to do a simple Google search to do the research. Like the above example very few retracted their statements. It pains this troper how little common sense and basic dignity is left in the Bleach Fandom nowadays, though granted, of cource, that these are only the vocal minority.

* Some people say that {{spoiler|L's death}} did this to ''[[Death Note]]''.

* A second season for the anime ''[[Black Butler]]'' was announced... featuring an original new protagonist and Butler not from the previous season or manga, and not Ciel and Sebastian. Cue the wailing of thousands of yaoi fangirls around the internet. Which, as it later turned out, was A-1 Pictures just trolling the fandom.

* ''[[One Piece]]'' started getting these accusations once {{spoiler|Portgas D. Ace bit the dust, breaking the tradition of not killing named characters, except in flashbacks, that was maintained for 13 years of publication.}}

** Some people complained about Hancock falling in love with Luffy because it would ruin the series being strictly [[No Hugging, No Kissing]]. Thankfully, this was averted.

* Oh cool, [[Sarcasm Mode|FINALLY]] there will be a LatAm dub for ''[[Dragonball Z Kai]]''. Oh wait... there were economic issues? Half of the original [[Voice Actor|VAs]] refused to dub? [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|THEY WERE REPLACED BY COMPLETE STRANGERS?! INCLUDING THE SINGER?!!]]

* ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ]]'' was [[Wham! Episode|such a shift in demeanor]] from the much darker ''[[Zeta Gundam]]'' that much of the fandom [[Fanon Discontinuity|would prefer not to think it happened.]]

* Wait, [[Steve Blum]] ''isn't'' reprising his role as the title character in the ''[[Wolverine (anime)|anime adaption of Wolverine]]''. Booooooo Marvel and G4!! '''RUINED FOREVER!'''

** Although we got [[Heroes (TV series)|Peter Petrelli]] voicing Wolverine instead.

** Heck, the ''entire idea'' of Marvel Anime (having popular Marvel superheroes in anime style made by [[Madhouse]]) may be seen as '''RUINED FOREVER''' by many anime and Marvel fans alike, mainly because having popular American superheroes in Japanese anime style is seen not to fit well with each other. Of course, the reception of the Marvel anime idea received mixed reviews from fans and critics alike.

* After seeing just ONE episode of ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]]'' Kira (the newest OVA), many of the fans are saying this.

** The episode in question was about 90% sexual fanservice and isn't even cannon.

* Many people complain over the Viz re-releases of ''[[Pokémon Special]]'' for various reasons, the most legitimate complaint being that there seem to be [[No Export for You|no plans to release the third gen story arcs]] until/unless the Ruby/Sapphire remakes come out, leaving out about 15 volumes worth of material out that will inevitably cause massive plot holes and spoilers in the currently on-going Diamond/Pearl arc.

* It doesn't matter how many years have passed, several fans of ''[[Dragon Ball]]'' feel the series lost it with the switch to ''[[Dragonball Z]]'' and the more sci-fi and less comedic emphasis, even though in the latter's case the humor was already being toned down a little by the time Piccolo first showed up.

 

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