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[[File:saw-doll-tv_8817.jpg|frame]]{{smallcaps|Hello, troper.}}
 
'''I wrote this note as an... insurance policy, of sorts. If you are reading this, it is because, while adding tropes to the main page of my films, you added... a ''[[Subjective Trope]]''.'''
 
'''You knew full well the consequences of doing so, yet you put the trope on the main page anyways, foolhardy in your beliefs as to how widespread your opinion was.'''
 
'''Well now you have one last shot at redemption. Below is a partial listing, started by those who came before and made the same grave mistake as you, of subjective tropes found in my films. If you wish to escape your predicament, you must complete this list, before [[Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped|that anvil drops]]. It is closer now, troper, but luckily for you, there are fewer subjective tropes than tropes that belong on the main page.'''
 
'''And remember, troper, [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on any of these tropes; if you do not take into account the opinions of those who disagree with you while adding examples, you will not succeed.'''
 
'''Your opinions brought you here, and now you must put them on display for all to see if you wish to escape with your life.'''
 
'''Live or die, troper.'''
 
'''Make your tropes.'''
 
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* [[Badass Decay]]: Jill Tuck in ''Saw 3D''. In ''Saw VI'', she [[Took a Level in Badass]] and {{spoiler|placed an upgraded Reverse Bear Trap on Hoffman, and then leaves him to die without any sign of remorse.}} After her plan fails, her badassness immediately goes away and she willingly puts herself under Witness Protection and spends most of the movie sitting at a safe house or in a jail cell. But the worst part was at the end where {{spoiler|she literally starts ''screaming and wailing for help at the top of her lungs'' when Hoffman finds her in her cell}}.
* [[Broken Base]]: After ''Saw III'' hit the screens, THE ENTIRE FUCKING FANBASE argued about it. Online and off. History repeated itself with the final movie, ''Saw 3D''.
* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]: Many film critics have expressed their disdain for the ''Saw'' series, but at least they watched a couple of installments. Not Entertainment Weekly's Lisa Schwartzbaum, who wrote [https://web.archive.org/web/20110908212819/http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20047386,00.html not one] but [http://insidemovies.ew.com/2009/10/26/saw-i-cant-stand-to-see-ithavent-seen-it-is-that-okay/ two articles] about how much she loathes the ''Saw'' series, despite ''admitting'' that she never watched any of them. Normally, this would be grounds for serious attacks against a movie critic. After all, when even the beloved [[Roger Ebert]] wrote a review on ''Tru Loved'', [https://web.archive.org/web/20081018181430/http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/10/dont_read_me_first.html a movie he admitted walking out on eight minutes into the film], he got criticized for it until he watched the entire film and re-submitted the review. With Saw, [[Gorn|given the series' bloody reputation]], Schwartzbaum's opinion was mostly praised, since the dissenters only see the series as artistically bankrupt as a romance novel or actual porn; therefore, it doesn't deserve to even be recognized as a "film" ([[Fridge Logic|nevermind that this opinion could accurately describe many mindless action/rom-com/horror films]]).
* [[Continuity Porn]]: Much of the later films had flashbacks that explained details from previous films, such as how Jigsaw and his apprentices set up their "games". A large chunk of ''Saw V'' had this as it tried to retroactively fit Hoffman into the previous installments.
** In particular the "reverse bear trap", first appears on Amanda's head in the first film, then in the background in ''III'' and ''IV'', then plans can be seen for it in ''V'', then on {{spoiler|Hoffman}} at the end of ''VI'' and finally on {{spoiler|Jill}} in ''VII'' where {{spoiler|it finally goes off as John intended, and it looks awesome}}. Of course, {{spoiler|John never ''intended'' for it to go off at all.}}
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* [[Epileptic Trees]]: Mostly regarding the fate of Dr. Gordon. {{spoiler|Not that it matters as of ''Saw 3D''}}.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Adam and Ryan, for being [[Deadpan Snarker|Deadpan Snarkers]] and [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|being heroic despite their less than savory traits]].
** Eric Matthews after being [[Demoted to Extra]], and Strahm.
* [[Growing the Beard]]: ''Saw VI'' was considered a huge improvement over the previous two films by fans (and critics) alike.
** Unfortunately is one of the least successful financially because the poor quality of the previous few entries had turned people off the series.
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* [[It Was His Sled]]: At this point, it's nearly impossible to read anything about the series-- including this page-- without finding out that Jigsaw is John Kramer. (See?) The once-shocking twist is also naturally lost on anybody who watches the films out of order.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Bobby Dagen in ''3D'', never more so than {{spoiler|when he fails his final test. It was bad enough seeing him lose all of his friends and co-workers; seeing him lose his wife -- in one of the franchise's most disturbing death scenes -- was just icing on the Woobie portion of the cake}}.
** Eric Matthews. He is a [[Dirty Cop]] and a jerk with a [[Hair Trigger Temper]], but his son has been kidnapped by a deranged [[Serial Killer]] who is mocking him, and he winds up kidnapped and left to die in the bathroom. Then he smashes his foot to find his son, who he doesn’t know is safe. Then he is stabbed repeatedly by Amanda, tortured, and becomes suicidal after he is out in another game, only to regain his will to live so that he may see his son again. And then he dies.
* Ryan. He is a jerk, but he deep down has some heroic qualities and even tried to save Anna, who was trying to kill him moments earlier.
* [[Les Yay]]: Well, kinda. Amanda and Lynn in ''Saw III'' had some serious tension between them in the movie. Amanda certainly looked like she enjoyed [[Too Kinky to Torture|Lynn shoving her up against a fence]].
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Jigsaw and Hoffman.
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* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Chavez throwing Amanda into the pit of needles and forcing her to solve his test for him.
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: ''Right now, you're feeling helpless.''
* [[Motive Decay]]: A potential glaring example in ''Saw 3D'' with {{spoiler|Bobby's final test}}, which flies straight in the face of John's philosophy by effectively {{spoiler|murdering Joyce through an impossible test}}.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: And how. See [[Saw/Nightmare Fuel|this page]] for examples.
* [[Replacement Scrappy]]: {{spoiler|Detective Hoffman}} to some.
** [[Take That, Scrappy!]]: {{spoiler|The end of Saw 3D finally has him getting his just desserts}}.
** Gibson, good lord.
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* [[Squick]]: Lots of it. Hell, every film in the franchise (following the first) is practically '''built on it.'''
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: Some fans feel this way about Jigsaw.
* [[Surprisingly Improved Sequel]]: ''Saw VI'' and ''Jigsaw''
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: ''Saw 3D'' had two potential interesting plot points: what made {{spoiler|Dr. Gordon}} join Jigsaw and the Jigsaw survivor group. Both of them were pretty much ignored in favor of Bobby Dagen's storyline; the survivor's group goes nowhere and {{spoiler|Gordon's}} role amounts to little more than a cameo and doesn't tell us anything that the fans hadn't already guessed years ago. Tragically, both of these would have been explored further (the survivor group would have continued to carry on Jigsaw's work) but they were scrapped as a result of the final two movies being crammed into one.
** The seventh movie also begins with a new concept: A trap appearing ''in public'', where three victims are sealed behind bulletproof glass in front of a busy street. This would've been a very intriguing subplot (how does the crowd react, the societal impact, the added difficulty of setting these traps up without being discovered etc.) Sadly, it's never followed up on, and is hardly even mentioned after the first scene.
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** Applies to Amanda in ''Saw III''. Also can describe Hoffman, at least until he goes [[Ax Crazy]].
 
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