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* [[Suspiciously Specific Denial]]
* [[Suspiciously Specific Denial]]


Related to [[Spotting the Thread]]. May lead to a [[Conviction By Contradiction]]. Contrast [[Too Much Information]], which is saying too much about ''other'' things.
Related to [[Spotting the Thread]]. May lead to a [[Conviction by Contradiction]]. Contrast [[Too Much Information]], which is saying too much about ''other'' things.
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== Anime and Manga ==
== Anime and Manga ==
* [[Ookami-San]] gives us a moment, as well. After her bout with [[Easy Amnesia]], Ryoko is walking home with Ringo. Ryoko informs Ringo that she doesn't remember anything from the time where she had regressed to her younger self. {{spoiler|When Ringo asks Ryoko if she's hungry, Ryoko tells her she's still full from the parfait she ate. Except she ate that parfait during the time she claims she can't remember. Ringo quickly realizes that Ryoko does indeed remember, and uses that information to blackmail her into wearing [[Hair Decorations|a cute little ribbon in her hair.]]}}
* [[Ookami-san]] gives us a moment, as well. After her bout with [[Easy Amnesia]], Ryoko is walking home with Ringo. Ryoko informs Ringo that she doesn't remember anything from the time where she had regressed to her younger self. {{spoiler|When Ringo asks Ryoko if she's hungry, Ryoko tells her she's still full from the parfait she ate. Except she ate that parfait during the time she claims she can't remember. Ringo quickly realizes that Ryoko does indeed remember, and uses that information to blackmail her into wearing [[Hair Decorations|a cute little ribbon in her hair.]]}}
* In the Alabasta arc of ''[[One Piece]]'', Igaram says aloud that the royal guard currently fighting Sir Crocodile have used a [[Deadly Upgrade]] and will die shortly. Crocodile overhears this, and retreats to a rooftop to watch them die uselessly.
* In the Alabasta arc of ''[[One Piece]]'', Igaram says aloud that the royal guard currently fighting Sir Crocodile have used a [[Deadly Upgrade]] and will die shortly. Crocodile overhears this, and retreats to a rooftop to watch them die uselessly.
** [[CP 9]] agent Fukurou, in spite of having a giant zipper over his mouth, tends to blab intel to the enemy. The mission before the Enies Lobby battle was complicated by his jabbering, and the Straw Hats were able to plan their rescue of Robin thanks to his 'hints.'
** [[CP 9]] agent Fukurou, in spite of having a giant zipper over his mouth, tends to blab intel to the enemy. The mission before the Enies Lobby battle was complicated by his jabbering, and the Straw Hats were able to plan their rescue of Robin thanks to his 'hints.'
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== Film ==
== Film ==
* It ends up being a crucial plot point in ''[[LA Confidential]]'' - {{spoiler|a corrupt cop reveals that he's actually the murderer of a police sergeant by asking his subordinate Exley to investigate a name the sergeant dropped as his last words. Which happens to be a name made up by Exley for his father's unknown murderer; he'd told the story to the sergeant on the previous day.}}
* It ends up being a crucial plot point in ''[[L.A. Confidential]]'' - {{spoiler|a corrupt cop reveals that he's actually the murderer of a police sergeant by asking his subordinate Exley to investigate a name the sergeant dropped as his last words. Which happens to be a name made up by Exley for his father's unknown murderer; he'd told the story to the sergeant on the previous day.}}
* [[Moulin Rouge]] first has a heavily sarcastic version:
* [[Moulin Rouge]] first has a heavily sarcastic version:
{{quote| '''Nini:''' (to the Duke) I don't like this ending. Why on earth would she go with the penniless writer? Oops! I mean ''sitar player''.}}
{{quote| '''Nini:''' (to the Duke) I don't like this ending. Why on earth would she go with the penniless writer? Oops! I mean ''sitar player''.}}
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** The ''real'' twist is that {{spoiler|the robot wasn't going to tell the truth anyway, since the First Law (manifested as a desire to protect the professor's reputation) trumped the fact that it would be scrapped if it didn't speak out, as well as the order to be quiet. The only reason for US Robotics' lawyer to call the robot to testify was in order to trick the professor, who distrusted robots and was deliberately ignorant of how they worked, into making that slip.}}
** The ''real'' twist is that {{spoiler|the robot wasn't going to tell the truth anyway, since the First Law (manifested as a desire to protect the professor's reputation) trumped the fact that it would be scrapped if it didn't speak out, as well as the order to be quiet. The only reason for US Robotics' lawyer to call the robot to testify was in order to trick the professor, who distrusted robots and was deliberately ignorant of how they worked, into making that slip.}}
* Poor [[Harry Potter|Hagrid]] is prone to this, especially when he's distraught or talking to the [[Power Trio]]. He lets slip the means to calm [[Fluffy the Terrible]], the name of a warlock who helps immensely with a search he doesn't want them to succeed in, and several other pieces of relevant information over the course of the books. Often [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] by Hagrid himself immediately after 'I shouldn't have said that'.
* Poor [[Harry Potter|Hagrid]] is prone to this, especially when he's distraught or talking to the [[Power Trio]]. He lets slip the means to calm [[Fluffy the Terrible]], the name of a warlock who helps immensely with a search he doesn't want them to succeed in, and several other pieces of relevant information over the course of the books. Often [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] by Hagrid himself immediately after 'I shouldn't have said that'.
* Moist von Lipwig fell into this trope in ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Making Money|Making Money]]'' when he was attempting to talk his way around Captain Carrot's [[Exasperated Perp]] tactic by telling Carrot that he knows what he's trying to do to him. Carrot then promptly thanked him... for informing him that he's quite familiar with that tactic and thus implying his rather shady criminal past. Whoops!
* Moist von Lipwig fell into this trope in ''[[Discworld/Making Money|Making Money]]'' when he was attempting to talk his way around Captain Carrot's [[Exasperated Perp]] tactic by telling Carrot that he knows what he's trying to do to him. Carrot then promptly thanked him... for informing him that he's quite familiar with that tactic and thus implying his rather shady criminal past. Whoops!
* In ''[[The Diamond Age]]'', Inspector Chang returns Hackworth's top hat, saying that he got it from a suspect. Hackworth thanks Chang for having "arrested him" despite Chang not having mentioned anyone being arrested, inadvertently admitting that the hat was stolen from him. He had wanted to keep the theft a secret, because the thieves had also stolen from him an illegal copy of the Primer that he had made.
* In ''[[The Diamond Age]]'', Inspector Chang returns Hackworth's top hat, saying that he got it from a suspect. Hackworth thanks Chang for having "arrested him" despite Chang not having mentioned anyone being arrested, inadvertently admitting that the hat was stolen from him. He had wanted to keep the theft a secret, because the thieves had also stolen from him an illegal copy of the Primer that he had made.
* ''[[America the Book]]'' has [[Footnote Fever|a footnote]] listing countries where the U.S. has carried out secret/illegal military operations, ending with "[[Canada, Eh?|Cana-]]... we've said too much."
* ''[[America (The Book)]]'' has [[Footnote Fever|a footnote]] listing countries where the U.S. has carried out secret/illegal military operations, ending with "[[Canada, Eh?|Cana-]]... we've said too much."




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* Whenever [[Stephen Colbert]] gets carried away in a rant and forgets he's not supposed to be talking about himself. On how ''[[High School Musical]]'' could be made [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|more realistic]]:
* Whenever [[Stephen Colbert]] gets carried away in a rant and forgets he's not supposed to be talking about himself. On how ''[[High School Musical]]'' could be made [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|more realistic]]:
{{quote| '''Stephen:''' If [the main character] went anywhere near the theater department, the football team wouldn't join him in a peppy dance number! They'd string him up on a goalpost by the tights of his home-made Romeo costume, and chuck stale Tater Tots at his head until I wet my pants! - ''his'' pants, ''his'' pants!}}
{{quote| '''Stephen:''' If [the main character] went anywhere near the theater department, the football team wouldn't join him in a peppy dance number! They'd string him up on a goalpost by the tights of his home-made Romeo costume, and chuck stale Tater Tots at his head until I wet my pants! - ''his'' pants, ''his'' pants!}}
** Another example, after 'Papa Bear' Bill O'Reilly appeared on his show, Colbert showed a clip of the [[The O Reilly Factor|O'Reilly Factor]] the next day where Bill says "Colbert ''blew'' me right away." Cue rant from Colbert how this was supposed to remain secret, how heartless O'Reilly was and it wasn't right away, they had dinner first. He goes onto his next segment where he uses the same phrase and realizes what Bill meant.
** Another example, after 'Papa Bear' Bill O'Reilly appeared on his show, Colbert showed a clip of the [[The O'Reilly Factor|O'Reilly Factor]] the next day where Bill says "Colbert ''blew'' me right away." Cue rant from Colbert how this was supposed to remain secret, how heartless O'Reilly was and it wasn't right away, they had dinner first. He goes onto his next segment where he uses the same phrase and realizes what Bill meant.
{{quote| '''Stephen:''' Oh, my. I have misjudged him. And perhaps said too much.}}
{{quote| '''Stephen:''' Oh, my. I have misjudged him. And perhaps said too much.}}
** This was common when he was on ''[[The Daily Show]]'', too. Several installments of "Even Stevphen" ended with him and Steve Carell having turned the topical "debate" of the day into a thinly-veiled or not-at-all-veiled discussion of their personal lives.
** This was common when he was on ''[[The Daily Show]]'', too. Several installments of "Even Stevphen" ended with him and Steve Carell having turned the topical "debate" of the day into a thinly-veiled or not-at-all-veiled discussion of their personal lives.
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'''Liz''': I have this whole Tracy-Josh thing under control!<br />
'''Liz''': I have this whole Tracy-Josh thing under control!<br />
'''Jack''': What are you talking about? }}
'''Jack''': What are you talking about? }}
* In ''[[Red Dwarf (TV)|Red Dwarf]]'', Lister is reading Rimmer's diary to the Cat. Rimmer is outraged by this betrayal of privacy, and Lister tries to mollify him by saying he can read Lister's diary if he wants.
* In ''[[Red Dwarf]]'', Lister is reading Rimmer's diary to the Cat. Rimmer is outraged by this betrayal of privacy, and Lister tries to mollify him by saying he can read Lister's diary if he wants.
{{quote| '''Rimmer''': Why would I want to read ''your'' diary? It's full of puerile nonsense about Kochanski.<br />
{{quote| '''Rimmer''': Why would I want to read ''your'' diary? It's full of puerile nonsense about Kochanski.<br />
'''Lister''': Ah, so you ''have'' read my diary. }}
'''Lister''': Ah, so you ''have'' read my diary. }}
* ''[[Law and Order UK]]: Durng the prosecution of an accused rapist/murdere, the key witness is a young woman who saw the man lurking around the building where the crime took place (she may very well have been the intended victim had she not evaded him. The man denies it, angrily accusing the girl of lying and referring to her tattoos before covering his mouth in horror as he realizes his mistake. Although the girl's arms were indeed covered with tattoos, she was wearing a jacket while in court. The only way he could have known about her tattoos was if he had seen her previously.
* ''[[Law and Order UK]]: Durng the prosecution of an accused rapist/murdere, the key witness is a young woman who saw the man lurking around the building where the crime took place (she may very well have been the intended victim had she not evaded him. The man denies it, angrily accusing the girl of lying and referring to her tattoos before covering his mouth in horror as he realizes his mistake. Although the girl's arms were indeed covered with tattoos, she was wearing a jacket while in court. The only way he could have known about her tattoos was if he had seen her previously.
* Cuddy intentionally says too much to Wilson in an episode of ''[[House (TV)|House]]''. She and House kiss, after which Wilson tries to trick her into confessing by asking her if everything's alright in a sort of leading tone of voice. She sees through the ruse and has no intention of denying the incident...
* Cuddy intentionally says too much to Wilson in an episode of ''[[House (TV series)|House]]''. She and House kiss, after which Wilson tries to trick her into confessing by asking her if everything's alright in a sort of leading tone of voice. She sees through the ruse and has no intention of denying the incident...
{{quote| '''Cuddy''': Everything's fine with my kissing House, oh God, you dragged it out of me, you're a genius.}}
{{quote| '''Cuddy''': Everything's fine with my kissing House, oh God, you dragged it out of me, you're a genius.}}


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* Near the end of [[Persona 4]], after {{spoiler|guessing out the identity of the killer}}, the Investigation Team go to the hospital to interrogate him. While he initially tries to give off some basic and non-specific answers, the continued grilling from the team (and Detective Dojima) gets him to blurt out:
* Near the end of [[Persona 4]], after {{spoiler|guessing out the identity of the killer}}, the Investigation Team go to the hospital to interrogate him. While he initially tries to give off some basic and non-specific answers, the continued grilling from the team (and Detective Dojima) gets him to blurt out:
{{quote| {{spoiler|'''Tohru Adachi'''}}: {{spoiler|"Namatame was the one who threw them in!"}}}}
{{quote| {{spoiler|'''Tohru Adachi'''}}: {{spoiler|"Namatame was the one who threw them in!"}}}}
** The funniest part about this: {{spoiler|[[Irony|He spent most of the game pretending to do this in order to manipulate the investigation team]], [[Hoist By His Own Petard|only to be exposed when he does it for real, thereby exposing that he knew the method by which the people were being killed, and the existence of the TV world]].}}
** The funniest part about this: {{spoiler|[[Irony|He spent most of the game pretending to do this in order to manipulate the investigation team]], [[Hoist by His Own Petard|only to be exposed when he does it for real, thereby exposing that he knew the method by which the people were being killed, and the existence of the TV world]].}}
* In the case "Recipe for Turnabout" in ''[[Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney]]: Trials and Tribulations'', {{spoiler|the case is won by [[Bluffing the Murderer]], causing the suspect in question to call you on it and revealing information he shouldn't have been aware of.}}
* In the case "Recipe for Turnabout" in ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]: Trials and Tribulations'', {{spoiler|the case is won by [[Bluffing the Murderer]], causing the suspect in question to call you on it and revealing information he shouldn't have been aware of.}}
** This happens a lot in the series. Usually it's the [[I Never Said It Was Poison]] variety.
** This happens a lot in the series. Usually it's the [[I Never Said It Was Poison]] variety.
* [[In the 1st Degree]]. If you play the game right, Tobin will end up blurting out information that makes him guilty right there in the courtroom.
* [[In the 1st Degree]]. If you play the game right, Tobin will end up blurting out information that makes him guilty right there in the courtroom.
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'''Dave:''' Oh. Good.<br />
'''Dave:''' Oh. Good.<br />
'''Helen:''' On second thought, let's make this about the sentient meme. }}
'''Helen:''' On second thought, let's make this about the sentient meme. }}
* ''[[El Goonish Shive (Webcomic)|El Goonish Shive]]'' presents: "[[Mr. Exposition|an ENDLESS BARREL of exposition]]" [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2002-05-27 spills it].
* ''[[El Goonish Shive]]'' presents: "[[Mr. Exposition|an ENDLESS BARREL of exposition]]" [http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2002-05-27 spills it].
* When Zii in ''[[Ménage à 3]]'' breaks one of Gary's most prized Transformers and learns that it was a highly rare [[wikipedia:Overlord chr(28)Transformerschr(29)#Toys|Overlord]], she tries to pin it on a cleaning woman she made up: "Tragic, I know. Poor Overlord... never knew what hit him!" Gary than asks how did she know it was an Overlord.
* When Zii in ''[[Ménage à 3]]'' breaks one of Gary's most prized Transformers and learns that it was a highly rare [[wikipedia:Overlord chr(28)Transformerschr(29)#Toys|Overlord]], she tries to pin it on a cleaning woman she made up: "Tragic, I know. Poor Overlord... never knew what hit him!" Gary than asks how did she know it was an Overlord.
* In [[Kid Radd]], Captain QB, after meeting with Crystal in a room they think is soundproof to discuss {{spoiler|killing Radd}}, sees Sheena on the way out and asks if she heard any of it. Sheena responds that "like your friend said," the room is soundproof. Thankfully, since QB isn't too bright, he never suspects anything, enabling Sheena to leave without incident and help save Radd.
* In [[Kid Radd]], Captain QB, after meeting with Crystal in a room they think is soundproof to discuss {{spoiler|killing Radd}}, sees Sheena on the way out and asks if she heard any of it. Sheena responds that "like your friend said," the room is soundproof. Thankfully, since QB isn't too bright, he never suspects anything, enabling Sheena to leave without incident and help save Radd.
* Sisko in ''[[D and DS 9 (Webcomic)|D and DS 9]]'' [[Honor Before Reason|informs the DM]] that [[Failed a Spot Check|he (the DM) didn't realize]] he rolled a [[Critical Hit]], unaware that the DM plans to [[Railroading|railroad him into]] [[Dark and Troubled Past|a Dark backstory.]]
* Sisko in ''[[D&DS9|D and DS 9]]'' [[Honor Before Reason|informs the DM]] that [[Failed a Spot Check|he (the DM) didn't realize]] he rolled a [[Critical Hit]], unaware that the DM plans to [[Railroading|railroad him into]] [[Dark and Troubled Past|a Dark backstory.]]